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- seltaeb4, on 06/10/2009, -0/+56No, RealPlayer is the worst media player of all time.
- umdigger, on 06/09/2009, -3/+35Maybe it's a Windows Quicktime thing, but I have never had a problem with QT crashing. Just download some of the plug-ins and it is almost as good as VLC. The only thing I use VLC for anymore is RAR files or when the audio isn't quite loud enough. But this is on a mac, so I would expect it to be a bit more stable. Oh, and subtitles are much easier to deal with in VLC.
- aussieNickuss, on 06/10/2009, -6/+26I don't know why everybody complains about Quicktime. On Windows for me, it loads quick, plays smoothly and never crashes. The same can't be said for WMP on this machine.
It's even better on Mac OS X....especially with Perian installed. - roxgod666, on 06/09/2009, -14/+33Can Quicktime play a video yet without bugging and lagging out? It's such an embarassement to the 21st century.
- inactive, on 06/09/2009, -0/+19I really don't care what you encode your with video with, as long as you provide a codec so I can masturbate to it.
- MacParrot, on 06/09/2009, -18/+35And I don't like beets. So let's just agree that I don't have to eat beets and you don't have to use QuickTime.
- non00b, on 06/10/2009, -0/+17yeah, on a mac it rules. In windows it stinks. I don't know why they bother to make a windows version
- inactive, on 06/10/2009, -0/+16What? QT goes to 11?
- judgeFire, on 06/10/2009, -5/+21In terms of HTML 5 and CSS 3 support, the version of Webkit used in Safari contains a lot more features than the version in Chrome, or the rendering engines of FF and IE. Engine room- wise, its the bleeding edge one.
- scooterbaga, on 06/09/2009, -0/+15FYI- In QT if you hold down Shift and press the Up key it'll go up to 400% louder.
- lydiasky, on 06/08/2009, -64/+78I hate Quicktime.
- cyberdork, on 06/09/2009, -3/+16How is the RSS feature of Chrome?
The sole reason why I use Safari is because I can put sites in my bookmark bar and get automatically notified if those sites were updated. Also telling me how many new articles are available on that site. The RSS implementation in Safari is superior to all other browsers so far. - fuxxx, on 06/10/2009, -1/+14...and Quicktime allowed fullscreen playback on free versions years ago.
- spike1201, on 06/10/2009, -2/+15Full screen has been included for everyone. Go forth and frolic, my friend.
- almostadesigner, on 06/10/2009, -0/+13QT + Perian = :D
- kingfoot, on 06/10/2009, -3/+15sorry but safari opens and loads my homepage in less than 3 seconds. no other browser has ever been that fast in my experiences with firefox, chrome, and opera.
- mrBitch, on 06/10/2009, -0/+11I think roxgod666 is talking about the Windows version, and I have to agree.
While I was using Windows, I always uninstalled QT and installed the QT-alternative codec.
QT on OSX, however, is pure bullet-proof, low cpu hit, media delivery goodness... - spike1201, on 06/10/2009, -3/+14I use Safari because my bookmarks (and bookmark bar) sync automatically across the three Macs I use each week as well as to/from my iPhone. That's extremely useful!
- Invid, on 06/10/2009, -1/+11No joke on the engine...I really prefer the extensibility of firefox, but lately I've been using Safari 4 because of the amazing speed. It's actually gotten difficult to use Fx because it feels like molasses by comparison.
The firefox 3.5 beta is better, but it still feels slower than Fx on OS X at least. Haven't tried Safari on Windows yet so I can't say much there. - Wisgary, on 06/10/2009, -10/+20I can literally feel the fury of the Windows users who hate that PIECE OF ***** TORTURE TRASH version of Quicktime installed on Windows machines digging you up, and the mac fanboys with the much improved version of Quicktime on their Macs digging you down. Looks like it's staying even so far.
- mrsteveman1, on 06/10/2009, -0/+10Didn't see it, but QT player has always had the ability to cut sections of videos, add one clip to another clip and output them in a new file.
- macslut, on 06/10/2009, -1/+11It seems like you think you know what you're talking about, but you don't.
"Quicktime was the default cross platform video standard a few years back"
No it wasn't. RealMedia and WindowsMedia had higher installed bases until...
"but Apple abandoned it (let it go buggy, less platform) as iTunes arrived."
It wasn't until iTunes arrived for Windows that the installed base of QuickTime grew against RealMedia and WindowsMedia. QuickTime is the engine within iTunes.
"Remember how with a one line of javascript on your web page you could guarantee a clean quicktime movie playing for a visitor no matter the hardware/os/broswer."
No, and neither do you. For a ".mov" file to play, the browser needed to have a plug-in installed. While there were some 3rd party solutions, the main method of doing this was to do a full install of QuickTime (for Windows users), for Mac users, QuickTime was already installed, but depending on the browser, the plug-in may have needed to be installed...if there was one for the browser.
"What happened?!?"
Flash happened. It was either bundled with or an easy download for every major browser on the Mac and PC. Flash, as an embedded container format (FLV) and as a plug-in, became dominate as content providers were able to develop their own branded players with site specific features and functionality...see YouTube. At the time, it made sense (no longer with HTML5), because it was ok as a final published container format even if it didn't use the most efficient codecs (like h.264 which would come later).
"The sony-facation of Apple happened - where the internet/pc world was secondary to the "create our closed appliance world'"
I'm not sure what you're trying to say here. Apple went pretty damn far in keeping things open with QuickTime. The QuickTime container has a plug-in architecture allowing for any 3rd party codecs, and many were licensed and bundled with QuickTime by default. The Apple licensed many other containers for the QuickTime player such as AVI and even FLV and helped develop MPEG-4, which also plays fine in QuickTime.
"Now 10s of thousands of folks with video on there sites are moving things over to mpeg4, flash or just to youtube implementations."
Wow...Ok, YouTube uses Flash (although they have HTML5 demos). Flash now plays MPEG-4, either contained in FLV or as a .mp4 file. YouTube was one of the first big sites to start to switch over to MPEG-4 files within their Flash based player. Both the adoption of MPEG-4 by Adobe for Flash, and more so with YouTube was a direct result from pressure/persuasion by Apple.
"For awhile there quicktime w/sorenson3 was the crossplarform any browser cat's meow of in-page or framed video."
Well, here I'd agree with you somewhat. While QuickTime had a smaller install base than RealMedia or WindowsMedia, it was a *better* format for cross platform embedded delivery. However, those days are long gone and the us of non-proprietary standards like MP4 are by far a much better way to go, and Apple helped contribute to this...as well as the adoption of HTML5. - kaytrio, on 06/10/2009, -7/+17chrome is based on webkit which was made by apple... so technically it's a complete ripoff of safari... wiki it.
- spookyttws, on 06/10/2009, -8/+18You know what would be really revolutionary? Actually just updating Quicktime (or iTunes, or any Apple program for that matter) with an actual update or patch instead of making us download the full 80-100mb program every other week.
- PARTyZAN, on 06/10/2009, -3/+13So you're saying, that QT Pro is not commercial, eh?
Oh, and by the way, there are tons of free apps for Windows and Linux systems with functionality you mentioned. - PeanutCheeseBar, on 06/10/2009, -2/+11I use VideoLAN for all my my video playback needs.
VideoLAN: For when you don't feel like waiting two minutes for Quicktime to start. - judgeFire, on 06/10/2009, -0/+8This is a valid question; at some point the price for QuickTime Pro was blamed on the licensing fees for mpeg-2.
- shank2001, on 06/10/2009, -13/+21Yeah right, try scrubbing a video in real-time with any other player, none can scrub video as smoothly or as perfectly as quicktime can. What version of quicktime are all these people that are claiming poor performance using?!?! My experience is exactly the opposite, VLC, Windows Media Player, Media Player Classic, or any other for that matter... quicktime blows them all away for perfect video scrubbing.
- MacParrot, on 06/09/2009, -1/+9One thing that caught my eye during the QuickTime part of the keynote (need to download the video to catch some of the parts glossed over in most of the live blogging) was the built-in video editing. Does anyone know if that's going to cross over to the Windows version?
- Noctem, on 06/10/2009, -0/+8What happened to versions 8 and 9? :(
- fjsferreira, on 06/10/2009, -0/+7For quicktime to be less problematic than WMP in windows, your system is really ***** up man
- pukiman, on 06/10/2009, -0/+7Windows users should just stay away from QuickTime, because there's just no need for it. And if there's a need (even though there's no QuickTime content on the web (everyone using flash, wmv, avi or mkv as containers)) there's always QuickTime Alternative.
- BugMeNot2, on 06/10/2009, -1/+8Late to the front page much?
- BeowulfGrimbly, on 06/10/2009, -0/+7Really? Because for some reason I can't find the built-in del.icio.us support in mobile Safari on my iPhone.
Weirdly, the drag-and-drop support for del.icio.us bookmarking seems to be missing from Safari on all my Macs too. - celotil, on 06/10/2009, -1/+7WebKit was based on KHTML, from the KDE folks who brought us Konqueror ...
So Chrome and Safari are both a rip of KDE.
/s
Who cares? - codyman, on 06/10/2009, -5/+10Quicktime is pretty much the industry standard for playback inside of editing software -- Final Cut Pro and Avid need it in order to even run...
- TallestSkil, on 06/10/2009, -1/+6Yep, and if you seriously believe that Internet Explorer brings anything to the table other than marketshare, you have serious issues.
- mydigglogin, on 06/09/2009, -2/+7mpeg-2 included, or are we going to be asked for another $20?
- temsi, on 06/10/2009, -1/+5@TheUngod
An office that requires you to be on Windows is a poorly designed office, IMO.
You shouldn't tether yourself to an OS. Use what works.
I use OS X, Windows and Linux on a daily basis (for different things).
My personal desktop is a Mac, by choice. - MtheoryX, on 06/10/2009, -2/+6@TheUngod:
You're flat out wrong.
Tell me why is it that our entire development team at a Big 10 university has switched entirely to Mac?
They most certainly aren't in art, music, or philosophy. And they certainly don't use their Macs for garageband or any of that *****. As far as credibility, they are a contributing partner to several major Open Source projects.
But I guess you must be right, and everyone else is wrong, huh? - ShyGuy91284, on 06/10/2009, -0/+3I'm curious to know if the speed increase Safari has gotten might actually be partially due to work the Chrome team had checked back into the WebKit code base.
- stmiller, on 06/10/2009, -0/+3Blame the patent trolls.
- Balanced, on 06/10/2009, -0/+3I don't know if the Browser war you seem to feel is coming will be much like the last one as the major participants are all actually striving to be standards compliant instead of tweaking the standard in their own way.
- MtheoryX, on 06/10/2009, -0/+3I think that would be AT&T you're referring to.
- 11oops, on 06/10/2009, -2/+5Uneducated digger, still making fanboy comments?
- fjsferreira, on 06/10/2009, -0/+3Jeez, and webkit is based on what?
Anyway, why does this matter? - Ben174, on 06/10/2009, -0/+2You masturbate to codecs?
- dragossh, on 06/10/2009, -1/+3They are too busy screwing their iPhone users to learn about delta updates.
- spacebuddy, on 06/10/2009, -6/+8After some benchmarks, Safari is the fastest now.
- stmiller, on 06/10/2009, -0/+2Probably so. There are tons of @google.com and @chromium.org commits. However apple contributes quite a bit as well.
http://trac.webkit.org/ -
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