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- TheEngineer2008, on 01/21/2009, -0/+55This is a great victory for Internet freedom.
LOL at the idea that one state can control the entire Internet. If Kentucky were ever allowed to get away with this, any court in the world would be allowed to censor the entire Internet. - RealmDown, on 01/21/2009, -0/+33I won $50 online by betting Kentucky would lose this case.
- badqat, on 01/21/2009, -0/+32A voice of reason...finally!
- morninglorii, on 01/21/2009, -3/+26Anyone else think KY Jelly upon first sight?
- AaronCo, on 01/21/2009, -0/+18LOL. I find it funny that they ever thought they could. Just because a state doesn't like what you do doesn't mean they have the legal right to steal it from you.
When are people going to learn that prohibiting something with a vibrant demand will not, can not, does not ever work? How many more "wars" do we need to wage on ourselves before we realize this?
They couldn't stop alcohol. They can't stop drugs. They can't stop file sharing. They can't stop pornography. They can't stop gambling. What a huge waste of money... - vofuse, on 01/21/2009, -0/+13Kentucky loses millions a year to the casinos that Indiana has opened across the river. It even tried to claim ownership of the Ohio River to stop the operation of Indiana's casino riverboats. Kentucky refuses to open its own casinos due to its "family values" base and due to the stranglehold that the horse racing industry holds on the state.
The state will probably finally get with the times on gambling, but in the meantime will continue making itself look foolish trying to preserve a fading industry. - spamthecatcher, on 01/21/2009, -0/+12The scary thing here is that one of the three judges on the Kentucky Court of Appeals somehow thought that the state DID have the right to steal someone else's domain name and effectively shut them down.
- dartmanx, on 01/21/2009, -0/+9Its not an effective plan anyways. If you want to control gambling on the Internet, control the money flowing into it. Prevent credit card and micropayment transactions. Use the IRS to kill it via the tax system.
The only problem is that under the interstate commerce clause of the constitution, said actions have to be done at the Federal level. I imagine the state attorney general is busy telling the governor, I told you so. - DirtyBinLV, on 01/21/2009, -0/+9Eliot Spitzer, then Atty General of NY, got the credit card companies to stop processing online gaming transactions in 2002. In 2006, Bill Frist amended a port security bill to ban all money transfers from the US to online gaming sites, except those operated by US horse racing and state lotteries. Those exceptions prove that the moral justification was BS and it was all about tax money (duh).
You can vote at Change.gov to support the legalization of online poker and hopefully get it onto President Obama's radar-
http://citizensbriefingbook.change.gov/ideas/viewI ... - inactive, on 01/21/2009, -0/+9Wow, that tells you that these people HAVE NO IDEA how the internet works!!!
- inactive, on 01/21/2009, -0/+9Ditto that, pard. It's NOT a matter of the right/wrong of gambling. It IS a matter of a government's right to seize a domain name. It's unfortunate that KY feels its parents are not intelligent enough to discipline themselves (or their children, if needed?) to avoid gambling/porn/other undesired websites, but as Tommy Smothers said, "The only valid censorship of ideas is the right of people not to listen."
- BelatedHero, on 01/21/2009, -0/+9Wow, I never thought I'd see a Herald-Leader article on the front page of Digg.
- Taiyoryu, on 01/21/2009, -0/+8"Oh noes! Borderless commerce. Whatever shall we do? Oooo let's try to legislate it death."
I love how most businesses interpret free market economics---no regulations except on their competitors. - hookski, on 01/21/2009, -0/+8Yes....Common damn sense finally wins one. It seems common sense is a rare commodity in government these days both state and federal.
- JRowe3388, on 01/21/2009, -0/+8I live in Kentucky and I'm glad this decision was made. Internet freedom all the way.
- WhiskeyLemur, on 06/30/2009, -0/+7Dear government officials:
The Internet is not a physical entity, and thus is not subject to the same types of controls as anything you have ever come across before. In fact, its very existence is already challenging all of our preconceived notions of communication, property, sales, etc, as well as all laws governing any of those elements. The sooner you get with the program, the sooner you can stop making asses of yourselves by trying to apply horse-and-buggy laws to airplanes - and start working out *actual* and workable solutions for an entirely new and unprecedented set of problems.
XOXO,
Internet Users - ArmedNDangerous, on 01/21/2009, -0/+7Hear they go trying to coddle and control the lives of thinking adults. If people wish to use their money to gamble online or partake in legal prostitution they should be allowed to.
- Renuvian, on 01/21/2009, -0/+6My Aunt got my 17 year old Cousin an "I heart KY" shirt on her last visit to Louisville.
Its his favorite shirt now. - WBWB, on 01/21/2009, -0/+6Not quite. The judge basically said that Kentucky's legislature needs only to add "domain name" to their definition of "gambling device" and then their ***** would be legal.
- xeno314, on 01/21/2009, -0/+6Never underestimate the power of judges to completely fail to understand the way technology works. This goes for the other political branches at all levels of government as well.
- JackSchittt, on 01/21/2009, -0/+6Good. Now maybe they can actually start working on getting rid of the stupid online gambling ban and actually start *making* money off of it rather than sit back and watch six billion dollars a year in tax revenue go out the window.
- Sonan, on 01/21/2009, -0/+6We're not all so bad. Some of us can even type in complete sentences!
- geniusj, on 01/21/2009, -0/+6Who was the 1 guy in the minority and what was he thinking? That's what I want to know..
- FeloniusMonkey, on 01/21/2009, -0/+6"In an unprecedented move last year, state Justice and Public Safety Cabinet Michael Brown, with Beshear's blessing, sued the Web sites. The state contended that the Web sites amounted to illegal gambling.
Franklin Circuit Judge Thomas Wingate agreed in November to allow the state to seize the domain names."
This judge should just hang up his gavel. Seriously-- how thick do you have to be to think this kind of ruling is within your jurisdiction? - Spire3660, on 01/21/2009, -0/+5Oftentimes i laugh so hard i cry. Mostly just cry though.
- bcronos, on 01/21/2009, -0/+5Politicians - can you ever laugh hard enough?
- badqat, on 01/21/2009, -0/+5Well, in this case, the governor rode into office on a platform of expanded gaming. The legislature, however, as well as the voters, didn't quite share the governor's vision.
Thus, he cooked up this ill-advised scheme - which was less of a domain grab and more of a cash grab than anything else. - Badfish2, on 01/21/2009, -0/+5That's pretty slick!
- Tddupre, on 01/21/2009, -2/+6"My Old Kentucky Home" is bunch of a lot of stupid people. I hate my home state.
- xeno314, on 01/21/2009, -0/+4You're including the Kentucky Court of Appeals members who reversed the trial court in that grouping of stupid people, I suppose. They might indeed be stupid, I don't know them personally, but Kentuckians were on both sides of the argument here...
- Murse, on 01/21/2009, -0/+4Is the Kentucky Court of Appeals really just 3 people? Are all Court of Appeals that small?
- swiftekho, on 01/21/2009, -2/+6The democratic governor thought he could... Not us as citizens of the state.
- inactive, on 01/21/2009, -2/+5So you're in favor of keeping freedom illegal. Alright, cool.
- tophomeloan, on 01/21/2009, -1/+4Seizing domain names would cause the internet to go willy nilly!!!
- LilJimmyNordin, on 01/21/2009, -0/+3Kentucky's got bigger problems.
- Sonan, on 01/21/2009, -0/+2@Fragowell: You would do well to learn the difference between hoping for something and actively pursuing legal restrictions for it. You're basically arguing against my right to free speech. Way to go.
- crackwassist, on 01/21/2009, -2/+4The hundred people in Kentucky with internet connections were causing that much of a problem?
- dartmanx, on 01/22/2009, -0/+2Speak in exclamation points! Throw out your opinions! Totally misunderstand the point of the original post! Ignore the fact that founding father gave that power out in the consitution!
- yankeedawg, on 01/22/2009, -0/+2Being a resident of Kentucky, this is certainly a positive for online poker; but, considering that even one justice voted against us is scary.What I'm wondering is what is the "temperment" of the state supreme court justices that this decision will be appealed to. For the record the state supreme court is a 7 member panel comprised of John D minton,Daniel J. Venters,Lisabeth hughs abramson,Mary C. Noble,Wilfrid Schroder, and Will T. Scott. I hope that a majority of them can employ some basic common sense!!
- TheEngineer2008, on 01/21/2009, -0/+2Soran,
It's not about taxes. It's about freedom. - TheEngineer2008, on 01/21/2009, -0/+2The judges said they had no need to rule on any further issues after deciding that domain names were not gaming devices. If the General Assembly were to add domain names to the list of gaming devices, the Commonwealth could sue, but the courts could still rule that that KY has no juristiction.
- wassim2k, on 01/21/2009, -0/+2I was wondering for a second why a lubricant company would be buying up domain names.
- Sonan, on 01/22/2009, -0/+2The only connection between what I said and any kind of freedom issue is that I'm exercising my freedom to express disgust over gambling being a chosen source of revenue. I am not trying to take away people's freedom gamble. I'm simply stating my preference that further gambling not be established as a source of revenue in Kentucky.
- hookski, on 01/21/2009, -0/+2He must have owed Beshears a big one....lol
- nharpe, on 01/21/2009, -1/+2Would someone more creative than me please get on the site and respond to Y_liquer's comment (the one at 6:18am)? I live in KY, and this is exactly the kind of person that perpetuates our reputation as a bunch of ass backwards retards. Small minded fools like that infuriate me...
- cubicledrone, on 01/21/2009, -2/+3"Prevent credit card and micropayment transactions."
Violate the Constitution! Usurp the authority of the people! Ignore jurisdictional boundaries! Become a law unto yourself! Do whatever you want, because you have a title and that means you rule by edict! This is the United States of America! Land of the Free! - 3Den, on 01/23/2009, -0/+1The state has appealed to the Kentucky supreme court... so this is still ongoing.
- goopxx11, on 10/21/2009, -0/+1well soon it will all over you guys the low on gambling is a but to go from this world in a month or 2 you hear my words.
http://www.blackjake.net - inactive, on 04/06/2009, -0/+1Kentucky's got bigger problems. Interesting news http://www.roomreview.net/play-poker/
- dalexandruz, on 01/21/2009, -1/+1Is anybody getting raped, murdered, beaten the crap out of when gabbling online? why is the government (micromanagers) telling people how to spend their money. if people want to prostitute themselves, use drugs etc... they should be allowed. It's there body.
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