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- Elektriq, on 10/12/2007, -2/+80I'm pretty sure I speak for all when I say ***** DRM.
- kevinmotel, on 10/12/2007, -0/+22"Grease 2 Soundrack"
oh don't worry, they aren't losing money on that because no one was gonna buy it - Baddox, on 10/12/2007, -1/+21Although there's probably better things to protest---DRM is little more than worthless garbage. The 4 options regarding music:
1. Pay nothing, not have full access to music.
2. Pay, not have full access to music. (DRM)
3. Pay, have full access to music. (CD's)
4. Pay nothing, have full access to music. (P2P)
Notice the only unacceptable choice (to the consumer) is number 2. - clickwir, on 10/12/2007, -1/+19I'll do my part and burn a cd tonight.
After I download it from www.allofmp3.com
These companies are sinking wayyyy too much money into trying to limit customers. They are loosing so much money and only making programmers and lawyers rich. They need to get with the times and upgrade themselves to deal with technology. - motorbreathx, on 10/12/2007, -4/+20All except the money grubbin' fools that use it.
- Buga, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11I cant wait to see how the Protest at Best Buy in Phoenix turns out. I wanted to go but I had to work =/
- motorbreathx, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9If that's their prerogative, then let it be.
- ccanni1028, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10Pass the Googlebomb link around, http://defectivebydesign.org/what_is_drm DRM
EDIT: Damn Digg comments not allowing HTML. - SuckMyDigg, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8How come I never heard about this until now?
- NanoStuff, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11It's mostly the same people that use DRMed technologies that complain of their existence. Gets up and goes to protest then comes back home and logs into iTunes. Hypocracy at it's finest. Tell me I'm wrong, how many here use iTunes?
If you don't want it to be around, DONT USE IT. The media companies are doing what they believe is in their best interest; it's your responsibility to prove them wrong if you really give a ***** about the problem. - akinnee, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9some CD's do have DRM
and most of the time when you buy music the record company gets most of it. - pauleku, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8I would buy music more if it were not for copy protection fears.
1. I can buy songs on napster but they wont work on my ipod. Plus i can only burn them so many times - thats just stupid.
2. I can buy songs from Itunes that DO work on my Ipod but are so encoded that you cant play them on ANYTHING else or burn them but a few times.
3. I can buy cds that wont even work in my stereo system - or not.
4. I can continue to download music for free that DOESNT have copy or burn protection and the musicians will STILL make more money than God, Buddah, and Michael Jordan combined.
I mean, didnt the RIAA officially in their streak of insanity declare copying cds to pc is illegal? So "officially" i have to pay 15 bucks for the cd and then 15 MORE dollars for the SAME CD to play on my pc? Are these people retarded or ju- oh wait their money hungry lawyers. They dont care what the outcome is they just want this to go on FOREVER.
Point being, musicians will still be filthy rich and can still pay for their $100,000+ cars and the insurance for them - they will be ok just let us download and share our damn music. - ZeonZumDeikun, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Holy crap, are you even aware of what DRM is? If nobody does anything about it, the .mp3 music format in its entirety will be obsolete, due to things such as limited music plays and liscenses that are now unrenewable (As far as "legal" music goes). Oh, and did I mention ROOTKITS ON CDS?
- organicsalsa, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6To say that musicians in general make a lot of money is pretty much a joke. For every millionaire musician out there there are at least 10 with a day job that make as much as you and I. I am not arguing that the larger musicians will make money regardless, I am just saying that if you plan on downloading your music then at least support your indie artists and your smaller artists by purchasing their music, they will appreciate it in the end. Perhaps with your contribution they will continue to put out music you enjoy.
- NanoStuff, on 10/12/2007, -4/+10Nobody is holding a gun to your head and forcing you to buy an iPod. Unless I'm wrong... is Jobs at your house right now? Just give me a sign, any sign.
- imerlin, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6The protest are being organized by the FSF, nothing fishy about that I'd say...
- NuclearBunny, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5$100,000 cars? Give this a look (http://www.metacafe.com/watch/83769/ferrari_enzo/).Apparently, being a "part-time" drummer for Pink Floyd is a pretty good gig
retail price: $652,000 - imerlin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5What I really find missing is... "What can I do?" from the article. Can I get stickers, posters, join the protest?
I'd like to at least post some angry stickers around :) - motorbreathx, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5I already said that I don't use iTunes for DRM music. Regardless of what music device I buy. I have no problem using iTunes for transferring my music that I get elsewhere. No hypocrisy at all if I don't fall into their DRM trap that is the music store.
- steelmaverick, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Bah, he probably thinks a rootkit is something for anal rape.
But then again, a rootkit is probably on par or worse than anal rape, especially for a geek like me. - Sonic84, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5"Anti-DRM protests? Sounds like a double negative there.... Would DRM protesters be pro DRM?"
Would Bush protesters be pro Bush? - steelmaverick, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5This reminds me, I just downloaded 200 songs yesterday.
I'm not kidding, btw. 200 songs. Ah, the joys of piracy.
ARRR - ccanni1028, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3How am I supposed to steal music from other people on my college network through MyTunes or OurTunes if I don't have iTunes?? Just because I use iTunes doesn't mean I support DRM. The only time I download songs from iTunes is when I get free coupons or someone buys me a gift certificate, and then they go straight from being downloaded to getting ripped so I can get rid of the DRM.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3i like piracy
- mikef98765, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3i know exactly what all of this is, i just don't waste my time protesting something stupid. MP3 will never be obsolete as long as we all use it. And we all do use it.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4shhhhh
- revenge7, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4allofmp3 is probably the best way to get music. No DRM, and everything is very cheap.
Plus, then you aren't an a**hole pirate. - Outdoor83, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2You don't need iTunes to transfer music to an iPod. I use vPod:
http://www.vonnieda.org/vPod/
Nice, small program. Finds all of my music. Basically just highlight what I want to sync to the iPod, and I'm off and rolling. Don't know if it works with iTMS files, and I don't really care. - cmw72, on 10/12/2007, -4/+6"I'll do my part and burn a cd tonight.
After I download it from www.allofmp3.com "
Way ahead of you .... Grease 2 Soundrack downloading now ... - tinygibbles, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3I'm celebrating this day by buying a couple albums I've been meaning to buy off iTunes, burn 'em and re-import 'em. ***** all you people that protest DRM. All you really want is free music, right? Viva Fairplay!!!!!
- williamkusumo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I guess Yahoo! is on the right path, they have Jessica Simpson and Jesse McCartney mp3 downloads with no DRM attached so far, and more coming soon I heard.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2I hope the protest makes a statement, *hopes to see it on tv tonight*
- glitchbit, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2It was only natural that it would work at first, but slowly those idiots realized what DRM means and they are jealeous by their smarter friend who does whatever he wants with those same songs.
But yea it should have just taught them a lesson and it is good that a lot of them are hopefully converting and making a stand against using DRM. But making a stand wouldn't be needed yes if they'd just stop using iTunes and whatever other DRM service out there. - Tetraca, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I'll get the chips and salsa.
- ZeonZumDeikun, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Shouldn't this have started on Talk Like a Pirate Day?
Oh well, I'm gonna take a couple trips once I get some stickers. Thank goodness this is something people may actually get involved in. - rabidvibes, on 01/08/2008, -0/+0yea forget drm get it all at www.albumhunt.com
- JackAxe, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1I use iTunes every day. It's the first program that launches on my workstation when I start it each day. I've been using it since the beta version was made available for OS 9.
It's a great music app, by far my favorite. It's a full featured app that gives me plenty of options/features to rip and mange my purchased CDs to my HD and my iPod, or simply play them.
As far s the iTunes Music Store, I have nothing against their DRM, even though I've never purchased a song from it. I have downloaded the free songs they offer, but that's it. The DRM does not get in my way, so it does not bother me. But I'll stick with buying CDs as long as they're available, since I will never willingly buy a compressed format. Buying a MP3 as example, even on the highest bit-rate, is buying damaged goods. - Backwards2, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Posted the day after the world DRM protest.
Well, that was certainly a non-event. Could it be that DRM isn't the most important issue in the world. YES. Could it be that there are artists, including citizen-artists, who would like their rights protected and see DRM as one of the few tools available to them. YES. Could it be that DefectiveByDesign is just a small group of people who know how to work the internet PR machinery. ABSOLUTELY! - overhang, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0@Outdoor83
Lookout vPod dude! Apple might sue your ass for "pod" infringement. Thanks for the software though. I was looking for something like this. Oh..and ***** DRM - harlowsmonkeys, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0This isn't going to get much traction among consumers, because what consumers will be comparing against is non-computer forms of media.
For example, consider audio books from Audible.com. They have DRM. Let's compare an Audible.com book to a physical book purchased from the local B&N.
One of the evils of DRM is that if I lose my copy, I'm screwed. But the same thing happens if I lose my physical book. B&N isn't going to give me another copy. (And actually, Audible.com *will* let me download again...they keep track of your purchases and you can download them at will). And I can easily make backup copies of the audio book, to lessen the chance of losing it.
Another evil of DRM: hard to make copies. Well, it's also hard to make copies of the physical book. Copies of short passages are easy with a photocopier and a stack of coins, but copies of short sections of the audio book are easy, too, with a blank CD-R. Copying the whole audio book that way is hard, because it will take several discs, but copying a whole physical book at the photocopier is also a pain.
Another evil of DRM: hard to share with friends. With the physical book, I can loan it to friends. But wait--I can loan the audiobook to friends. They just plug their iPod into my computer, and I load the book onto it. And, unlike the physical book, I've still got it, too.
The DRM does limit me to using the Audible book on authorized computers (my home desktop, my work desktop, my laptop...I don't know what the limit is because I ran out of computers before hitting it), and on as many iPods as I want. The physical book I can use anywhere I happen to have the book. So, here is one thing where the DRM'ed Audio.com book loses to the physical book. I can't use it on random other computers--just mine. But when I'm not at home, I'm most likely going to be using an iPod, not a computer, for my audio books, so when I copy the book to an iPod, it is basically just like the physical book as far as where I can use it (anywhere I bring it).
From a consumer point of view, the audio book, compared to the physical book, comes out about the same--slightly less convenient in some ways, and more convenient in others. So, if the consumer accepts the limitations of physical books, they are not going to see anything wrong with audio books having similar limitations. Nothing apparent to the consumer would lead consumers to expect sane people to dress up in funny suits and treat DRM'ed media as if it were hazardous waste. The net result is that the consumers will write off these protesters as just another kook group. - Crass22, on 10/12/2007, -7/+6I always have avoided DRM crap and just download music illegally, but then people will tell me Im not supporting the artist, honestly i dont care about the artists. But anyone out there with a high speed internet connection and a brain can download music illegall (oh noez) and then suppourt their favorite artists by donating money or buying stuff from their personal websites and not paying the RIAA a cent.
- ronaldst, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1A problem where there isn't.
Let's get the OSS fundies off Digg. Buried. - motorbreathx, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2Can't help it if you want to transfer music (even if not from iTunes, DRM free of course) to the iPod. Don't believe it's hypocrisy having a device from a company that uses DRM if they don't require DRMed music on the device.
- Backwards2, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1The "protest" was organized and viral-marketed by DefectiveByDesign. Thanks for verifying that they are a front organization. We can expect to see the usual suspects in the pictures and the usual inflated claims on the web. There are many major problems with the world today. DRM is not one of them, and isn't worth 5 seconds of time for anyone who can see one nanometer beyond their "gimme that" selfish gene.
- reevolutn, on 10/12/2007, -3/+0coulda had a better logo maybe
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -9/+2http://www.albumbase.com
and
http://www.flixdump.com
thats all i have to say - i440, on 10/12/2007, -8/+1I wouldn't call groups of 2-5 people in hazmat suits "protesters". More like victims of public humiliation
- Backwards2, on 10/12/2007, -8/+1Bogus event by a non-group. Doesn't deserve DIGG front page status. Why is their funding page the same as the Free Software Foundation? What are they trying to hide!
- mikef98765, on 10/12/2007, -15/+3out of everything in this world you can put time and effort into, they choose a DRM protest? Really? Get a life...
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