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- DarknessGP, on 06/27/2008, -2/+5880% coming from 5% of users, fair? I'd say yes! That just means 5% is getting their money's worth out of the ISPs service. The problem is that those 5% were probably maxing out their advertised speed, i.e. using what they are paying for. Is it their fault that most ISPs can't handle it's users doing and sustaining what they were advertised and sold?
- TheMachine1, on 06/26/2008, -2/+50When the massive class action lawsuits comes to ISPs for selling unlimited access that is in fact highly limited I hope they don't expect the weasels at Anagran to pay their legal bills.
- ganus, on 06/26/2008, -0/+38I've heard rumors on the internets.
- Harrison88, on 06/27/2008, -0/+31The other 95% should learn to use the full range of resources the internet provides.
- nicktheawesome, on 06/27/2008, -3/+33If you are jealous, you are welcome to fully use your share. Unlimited use, dick.
- oboy, on 06/27/2008, -2/+31Anagran. Sounds like a cult.
- vtbarrera, on 02/03/2009, -2/+29I though the man that made sending packets of information mainstream would be proud of what can be achieved through peer-to-peer networking.
- herpescrusader, on 06/27/2008, -0/+21the other 95% are ***** free to go for it, we're not stopping them. They just don't want it.
- StevieJanowski, on 04/02/2009, -4/+24Once fiber is more common there will be no need to throttle anything
- life38, on 06/26/2008, -6/+24Wait a minute, I think we all should take credit because without the users it would have died.
- charbo187, on 06/27/2008, -0/+16I don't believe that statistic for a second. also it isn't the 5%'s fault that they are the only ones who know how to use their ***** computers and internet connections. it's the other way around anyway, their e-mail checking and web browsing is slowing down my torrent download. paaaaleeeeez
- samard2002, on 06/27/2008, -1/+16That is not at all what net neutrality means.
- PatrickA, on 06/27/2008, -2/+16Nobody can gag the internets. Impossible.
- ErikHarrison, on 06/27/2008, -5/+17I wish someone would punch him in his old man balls.
Thanks for the interwebs, now GTFO. - drowe, on 06/27/2008, -0/+11He's right! I am a mailman!
- Phearce, on 06/27/2008, -2/+13This technology isn't about eliminating P2P, it's about leveling the playing field. Anagran can detect P2p "and reduce the bandwidth available to these communications when other users' systems want it." The operative words are 'when other systems want it'.
- pabster, on 06/27/2008, -0/+11I'm sure he is proud of his work.
But money talks. - jquipp, on 06/27/2008, -6/+16Just how many people actually invented the internet ... in reality all of us are contributing to its development.
- TheMachine1, on 06/27/2008, -0/+10Its going to be a civil case decided by a jury who will weigh the advertised public statements of "unlimited" verse the standard contract small print that says "we can do any ***** thing we want and you have to bend over and take it".
- inactive, on 06/27/2008, -1/+10I cant wait til we switch to the semantic grid :)
- inactive, on 06/27/2008, -0/+9WOW! Thanks for sharing your profession with us. I'm a firefighter....not really, but the guy below me claims he's a mailman.
- decepticrat, on 06/27/2008, -4/+13Why can't they all just leave us alone?
- LiceHelpDotCom, on 06/27/2008, -0/+9I wish that were true.
The reason to throttle it will be to make money.
You want moar bandwidth? plan to fork out moar money.
It won't cost THEM any more money to transmit at higher bandwidths, but it sure will cost YOU and ME! - Hamletlere, on 06/27/2008, -0/+8Wow, you are an ass.
I haven't lived with my parents for over 20 years, have a family, and am paid very well by the company I work for. I probably have above-average internet usage as well, as I download legitimately purchased TV show and movies, Linux distributions, and things like 1GB SDKs for development.
Are you saying I don't have the right to do this with the cable service agreement I have? Should I only be using the internet for low-graphics web browsing and email?
You might try getting rid of your bias and looking around a bit. I am sure there are a lot of the people as you describe, but there are many others like me who are not. - TheMachine1, on 06/27/2008, -0/+8The small print in a contract can be rendered null and void when fraud is involved.
- domfosnz, on 06/27/2008, -2/+10And now he wants to throttle their experience.
- spyece, on 06/27/2008, -0/+8Thanks for sharing.
- Morshade, on 06/26/2008, -1/+9I want
- pixeldust, on 06/27/2008, -0/+8Considering he was one of the original 4 members that created ARPANet I think he rates above most of us who use the internet for porn and funny pictures. We can use and expand the internet, he was one of the four who CREATED it.
- bornio, on 06/27/2008, -0/+8It doesn't matter if 99% of the internet "usage" (traffic) is generated by 1% of the users - the internet is a SERVICE, which you receive after PAYING to internet SERVICE provider(s).
If they cant afford "unlimited" use at some price - raise the price, don't violate the agreements. - samard2002, on 06/27/2008, -0/+8Then they will just throttle users. You can't disguise your volume.
- utnow, on 06/27/2008, -2/+10p2p != criminal
- DeFex, on 06/27/2008, -0/+7Before they had pipes they only had aqueducts, and some of the packets would evaporate.
- Origin415, on 06/27/2008, -0/+7The fact that telecom companies arent as interested in such a device?
- kuz2r, on 06/27/2008, -6/+13Guys you forgot about pipes, the guy who invented pipes invented Internet
- prakashpv, on 06/27/2008, -1/+8Whats stops someone from building an anti anagran?
- sulliwan, on 06/27/2008, -1/+8Oh come on, packet scheduling for giving priority to important traffic which requires low latency(such as voip or gaming) is nothing new and has nothing to do with net neutrality.
- HonoredMule, on 06/27/2008, -0/+7I dream of a day where 60% of internet users (or greater) are "high volume" users, and the power of the internet is valued and harnessed by everyone.
Of course, the telecommunications industry would ***** their pants, which is why they are struggling so hard to maintain a more profitable "ordered" producer-consumer model. So many producers would make collusion almost impossible. - mrgoat, on 06/27/2008, -0/+7Where does this 5%/80% come from? Citation needed.
- dortiis, on 06/27/2008, -0/+6the biggest volume culprit right now is youtube, and other video feed sites. If you start throttling them, you will have a very upset public.
- tripledjr, on 06/27/2008, -1/+7Well hes about to see the beast he created bite him in the ass if he tries this.
- darkamster07, on 06/27/2008, -0/+6ITT: people use what they pay for and everyone blames them
havent these people realized that the only solution to their problem is to just BUILD MORE ***** INTERNET GOD DAMN! I mean, they are gonna hafta do it sooner or later! oh wait, that's not what they are really interested in? ***** them then! you can't stop the growth of the internet, freedom of information is a concept that you can't throttle. these idiots just need to "go with the flow" as suggested and find a more honest way of making their profits. you will never stop piracy. - Rubab, on 06/26/2008, -3/+9wow Inventor of the Internet... Lawrence Roberts.. I must blog about him
- BOFH2, on 06/27/2008, -1/+7If you paid $100 to go 85 mph on the free way because it is something you deem important I am pretty sure you would get mad if a cop pulled you over and checked through your car and then let you go on a daily basis.
- sarixe, on 06/27/2008, -0/+6shh... you're giving them idears...
- DarknessGP, on 06/27/2008, -0/+6but will it? Most ISPs cap their users upload/download at the advertised speed. Is 5% using their max advertised speed maxing out the connection to where no one else can use it? If so, the ISP has a problem. The issue isn't nerfing p2p, it's fixing the fact that ISPs don't distribute their bandwidth. If I try to connect to a page and other customers are using all the bandwidth, the system should know to slow them down a little to give me access, instead it just goes "Can't connect, sorry"
- djbon2112, on 06/27/2008, -1/+7Why is that "sad"? Because we use our connections to their full potential? If 80% of the bandwidth can be eatten up by only 5% of the users, isn't that overselling just a little bit? It's up to them to expand their infrastructure as they should be, not to cap and charge us because they can't handle what they're selling. If an airline oversold a plane by double, who would you blame when you couldn't get a seat? The guy who bought 8 tickets because he's taking his family, or the airline for overselling? Why should internet access and bandwidth be any different?
- kaniz, on 06/27/2008, -0/+6I don't entirely mind packet shaping on P2P traffic if it's done in a reasonable manner. Sure, I do get a nerdy hard-on when my downloads come in at 500kB/s - but even if they got nudged down to 100-200 during peak hours I wouldn't mind. Its when stuff starts crawling along at 5-15 which leaves me scratching my head and thinking 'wtf am I paying for?'
- inactive, on 06/27/2008, -5/+11from psogle's comment: once fiber is more common there will be no need to throttle anything
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