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activecollab.com — activeCollab is here to provide free alternative to Basecamp, great service developed by 37signals
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- mwdcodeninja, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12dosent look like they can stand up to the digg...
- boolean, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7screenshot:
http://www.activecollab.com/files/screenshots/project-overview.png - breezy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9Duggmirror: http://www.duggmirror.com/tech_news/Amazing_clone_of_Basecamp,_100_free/
and zip location of alpha1: http://www.activecollab.com/download/current/activeCollab.zip - boolean, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4if above screenshot link doesn't work : http://aycu09.webshots.com/image/2928/1566924069033658270_rs.jpg
- skyshock21, on 10/12/2007, -5/+21but... but.. it's AMAZING!
Seriously, I think the word "amazing" along with a few choice others needs to be banned from headlines from now on. - BrockLee, on 10/12/2007, -10/+2Yeah, when I tried to access it I got an error message urging me to contact a TextDrive sysadmin. Hmmmm, and David Heinemeier Hannson has a financial relationship with TextDrive. Coincidence?
- boolean, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7screenshot:
- menace303, on 10/12/2007, -36/+8seems kinda mean-spirited. 37s does a great job developing and maintaining. why make a free version JUST to say that you aren't paying for it?
- Superkid, on 10/12/2007, -0/+35......because its free!
- Novagenesis, on 10/12/2007, -6/+11Or...it means they're charging too much for how much work it took to create the program...
There doesn't seem to be an amazing amount of innovation to Basecamp (at least imo).
Free software like this prevents monopolous price-gauging... The point now is, is it worth paying for Basecamp for the added support of a premium software package? - majglow, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Odds are they believe in a business model where they can make money while providing a free service (ads?). I don't see how it's mean-spirited. It's business. I haven't been to the site yet, so I can't really say anything for sure (site is down for me).
- bugninja, on 10/12/2007, -0/+20It's called competition.
- seanharrop, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11I'm sure there was another reason for it besides doing it for the price. One that sticks out to me is that I can install it on my own corporate network and not worry about my company's private data getting into the wrong hands. Do you want an external application service provider to know what your next big plan is?
- jbigelow, on 10/12/2007, -1/+22@menace303
Come on, if Microsoft had been the company that wrote basecamp instead 37signals nobody would utter an ounce of protest but since 37 is an oh-so trendy web2.0 company with a bunch of nerd superstars they're supposed to be free of the headaches of competition? - splatnik, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2You forget that 37s sells this software so that they can keep the other apps free. They also give back to the community and they should be commended for that. Face it, you have to pay one way or another if you want good services/apps.
- nofxjunkee, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2If you don't want to set it up yourself and maintain the server it runs on then Basecamp is still the way to go... I don't really think it's mean-spirited. Who would put all their time into a software package out of spite? I think by releasing it for free it shows good spirit. meh.
- unitedkronos, on 10/12/2007, -6/+1Google brings up Jack Black in English about it, and the cache doesn't work either. I found this though...
http://www.activecollab.com/files/screenshots/project-overview.png- happyfappy, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1This is hilarious.
I just dumped TextDrive as my web host because of how poorly they host Rails sites -- which is especially ironic considering that DHH is affiliated with them.
- happyfappy, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1This is hilarious.
- m00kie, on 10/12/2007, -19/+2
before you start hating, realize that this is the "first alpha release" of this post and the proggie 2.
dudez, 37signals is evil and they use proprietary code. this version is free, open source so that everybody can have it for free. not just the sucky version. dont you get it???????? 37signals is THE MAN !!!!!! you dummbies - riklomas, on 10/12/2007, -6/+11Basecamp already has a free version: http://basecamphq.com/
Also, if Basecamp's service is great, why not consider actually paying for it?- breezy, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11Becuase I can now use a FREE alternative which is apparently also great, or should i say "Amazing".
- BrockLee, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3The question is whether BaseCamp is worth what 37signals is charging.
The free version of BaseCamp is very restrictive. The non-free versions are expensive by many standards. This looks like a nice alternative. - ciphersuite, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Why would I pay for a service that I can get for free? (Assuming its +- identical). I dont care how innovative it is or how much time was spent on the development of basecamp. Thats competition. Having said that, for some hosting activecollab may just be more expensive than basecamp.
- projectshave, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I know several people who would like to use basecamp for small distributed personal projects, but their monthly fee is too high. The free version doesn't have file sharing, which they all need. If they had a basecamp lite version (limited file hosting) for a lower fee, I would certainly use it.
- ilijastuden, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Its just about providing alternative.
* For some Basecamp is too expensive
* aC can be installed on your local computer or your company network
* Customize it to fit your needs
* Integrate it with CMS/CRM you already have in place - bondo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Well, by company standards BaseCamp is pretty cheap. A company I used to work for had a requirement that was missing in BaseCamp (a time tracking system - basecamp has this now, but not quite how this company wanted it), so they decided to build their own. $9000 USD later they are still building, the interface is clunky and poorly planned, and it's less flexible by a mile. They could have used baseCamp for 5 years before spending that cash, probably for 10 years considering they are maybe half done, but go figure. Not to mention the BaseCamp interface is excellent
- tuyen, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0If you are looking for a project managment app similar to Basecamp in terms of ease-of-use but that also has a free plan that allows for file sharing, check out TeamWork Live: http://www.teamworklive.com. They have paid plans too but the free plan will let you manage 1 team with unlimited team members.
- ilijastuden, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Imagine that you use open source project for foundation and pay an experienced developer $2K to customize it to fit special needs of your company. You get solid product that have all the features that are require for 4X less money.
- whalesalad, on 10/12/2007, -5/+2Too bad the server is down
- majglow, on 10/12/2007, -6/+4So, is the web application developed using Ruby on Rails at least? :P
- boolean, on 10/12/2007, -4/+7unfortunately not, it's developed with php5 and mysql.
- funbags, on 10/12/2007, -17/+1lol
- funbags, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4It does follow MVC programming though, not sure what framework they used.. Any idea?
- texpundit, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Probably either Symfony or CakePHP. Those are the two hot PHP frameworks right now. Prado is pretty hot, too, but I don't think it follows the MVC approach.
- east3rd, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0Looks homegrown to me. Definitely not Symfony or Cake.
- CaughtThinking, on 10/12/2007, -9/+3hah. i would implement it in java just to spite 37signals.
- ilijastuden, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Framework: small but pretty functional homegrown MVC framework. Some nice tricks taken from all over the place, mostly from Rails.
- usefulidiot, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2This gets points for it in my books, I LOVE php & mysql, they seem like the most "natural" and most straight-forward web development languages and tools.
- seventoes, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2To me it looks like they developed it in rails and used some kind of converter to switch it over to php. The file structure is almost identical, including using a dispatch file (index.php in this case) to redirect to the /public directory transparently. The URL structure is similar too. (?c=controller&a=action)
- ilijastuden, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Good thing: read a few introduction chapters on Rails and you are ready to go with activeCollab framework :) Nice side effect.
Btw, no converter :) - nofxjunkee, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Ugh, everyone's ranting about CakePHP and Symfony, but I didn't find either the least bit appealing. I settled on Zend's framework for the project I have now, because it's unobtrusive but still provides a decent level of convenience. CakePHP & Symfony feel like "agh! rails! we need something super-cool in PHP now! throw it together quick!" ... Zend's taking their time, and I think they'll have a superior framework at the end of it. They're doing a great job of making it feel... not like PHP. ;-)
I still prefer Ruby though, it's just a better and more powerful language, face it. The more PHP evolves the more it feels like a Java wannabe. I don't hate PHP so don't try and turn this around.
- remiprev, on 10/12/2007, -6/+2http://www.duggmirror.com/tech_news/Amazing_clone_of_Basecamp,_100_free/
- billisdog, on 10/12/2007, -22/+3yay for diggvertising! I can't wait until every time a new product comes out the publisher diggs it and we all have to read about it.
oh well it'll be my turn soon when my new web service comes out. somebody fund meeeee!- dmurray14, on 10/12/2007, -1/+17Yes, they're sure going to make a lot of money off this FREE product now that they've advertised it on digg
...some people... - muyuu, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3dmurray:
Actually, they will probably make some good money if they have success.
Let me also point out that there is nothing wrong with that.
- dmurray14, on 10/12/2007, -1/+17Yes, they're sure going to make a lot of money off this FREE product now that they've advertised it on digg
- premierstrategy, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4We love basecamp and have used it for dozens of client projects... The end-user experience is fantastic. A simple, clean solution to no-frills collaboration. I'm glad to see 37 Signals being rewarded for their hard work and innovation. We're also glad to know they will probably be around after putting an app like this out on the street. It's well worth the $25-$50 bucks imho - I hope it encourages others to think about creating great solutions to simple problems.
- sockmunki, on 10/12/2007, -1/+337Signals also has Backpack, a cheaper per month, pared-down version of Basecamp. There are free versions of Backpack and Basecamp for basic limited accounts.
- lament, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6umm.. Backpack and Basecamp, while having a couple of overlapping features (writeboards), are nothing alike.
- lerchmo, on 10/12/2007, -14/+3Its still a ripoff, at least from the screen shot. And If you dont feel 37signals product is worth it, dont pay for it but make a better solution, dont rip it off and take their business. Anyway if it has advertizing someone is gonna pay for it. I doubt it will make alot of $$ from advertizing anyway. Tech users + its a web application so users will become add blind soon enough.
- lerchmo, on 10/12/2007, -6/+3oh, I didnt see that it was downloadable..
- Tatusmi, on 10/12/2007, -23/+2lol it doesn't say much for the company offering a webservice like this if their service can't stand up to the digg effect.
no digg.- dmurray14, on 10/12/2007, -0/+17Good point. Glad you took the time to notice it's not actually a web service, but something you download and host on your own.
A+ for effort!
- dmurray14, on 10/12/2007, -0/+17Good point. Glad you took the time to notice it's not actually a web service, but something you download and host on your own.
- sardonic, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Ah.. I see.. well I'll tell that to Oo.Org their obviously "Its still a ripoff"
- Hexxagonal, on 10/12/2007, -3/+137 signals needs to think of new ideas and not rehash their old stuff... i hope activecollab makes this known to 37
- heinousjay, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Come on, I admire a company that reinvents wikis and blog repeatedly.
- fak3r, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Smaller download avail, the .tar.gz one is only 360kb, should be easier to get than the other now with all the Diggity going on:
http://www.activecollab.com/download/current/activeCollab.tar.gz
I'm installing it on my home server now...- boolean, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2alternative download lik: http://www.upload2.net/page/download/D0sAfKyVzpjSPkR/activeCollab.zip.html
- hifiDesign, on 10/12/2007, -11/+3No digg because of the use of "amazing" in the title...
- jessethouin, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6Same here.
However, I think people need to ease up on 37. They didn't set out to be innovative when they developed basecamp, they set out to solve an internal project management problem. Turns out, their solution is well written and extremely effective. They didn't really innovate, but they produced an excellent product. And that's enough for me to digg 37.
- jessethouin, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6Same here.
- buddyfarr, on 10/12/2007, -2/+16it's nice that the web page died when I tried to connect and gave me their login information (I took the password out, it was in there):
File: /users/home/a51studio/domains/activecollab.com/web/public/cms/environment/classes/database/DBConnection.class.php
Line: 47
Host: localhost
User: a51studio
Password: *************
Database: a51studio-oscamp- xxdesmus, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3that's great...lol.
- Sferrero, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7+1 reason to use basecamp...
- ilijastuden, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8Please, remind me not to leave script in debug mode next time! I feel so stupid.
- neouser99, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1too bad its probably locked to only localhost access... leaving you with not much
...least i hope for their sake :)
- xxdesmus, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2a working mirror of the software please???
- jonashwing, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1scroll up
- MoeTee, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Wow, site's been totally diggested.
- rileyjt, on 10/12/2007, -7/+8My new policy - mark as LAME any article that uses the word "Amazing" in the title!
- XStatic, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Can't tell for sure since it is down,but it looks like you run it on your own server:
"Set up an environment where you, your team and your clients can collaborate on active projects using a set of simple, functional tools."
If so then it is better for my use than connecting to a hosted service like BaseCamp - superkendall, on 10/12/2007, -4/+5For those of you wondering what the hell Basecamp is, much less the clone:
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What is Basecamp?
Basecamp is a unique project collaboration tool. Projects don't fail from a lack of charts, graphs, or reports, they fail from a lack of communication and collaboration. Basecamp makes it simple to communicate and collaborate on projects.
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And the URL is:
http://www.basecamphq.com/ - OmegaNine, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Guess they really didn't see that coming. the funny thing is, they wanted people to digg them. It's on their front page. Oops :-P
- ilijastuden, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Yes. Funny. Sometimes its not that good to get what you want.
- ekimneems, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0This only runs on PHP5. I wonder if it's worth upgrading...
- Tetravus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Grabbed the mirrored zip, ran the install... the first step failed. Ran it again, the last step failed. But it did create tables in the database before dying. :-P
It says that it can't find the 'Owner company' does anyone know which table I should edit to hand create an owner company instance? (oh yeah, there's like zero documentation. Otherwise it looks pretty interesting.)- Tetravus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Found the problem and a fix to get it to install locally.
In the file 'activeCollabinstallinstallationtemplatessqlmysql_schema.php'
Replace line 19 with
`client_of_id` smallint(5) unsigned NOT NULL default '0',
And I take it back about there being no documentation. It looks like the code is pretty well commented and uses logical variable names for just about everything. - BuddhaChu, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Thanx for the fix!
- Tetravus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Found the problem and a fix to get it to install locally.
- Ub3rg33k, on 10/12/2007, -5/+12Can we start burying people for using Digg cliches like "Amazing", "Hilarious", any headline in all caps, or any headline ending with more than one exclamation point?
Summarize the article, don't give us your opinion on it. You obviously liked it enough to digg it, we get it.- nilobject, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6Why you're getting modded down for a perfectly insightful comment, I'll never know.
Digg is the most AMAZING AND HILARIOUS site EVR! OMG! - detrate, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1because many digg users lack intelligence.
see you at the ground floor!
- nilobject, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6Why you're getting modded down for a perfectly insightful comment, I'll never know.
- empath, on 10/12/2007, -11/+0Lame. Why isn't it in rails?
- mutant, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4screw rails -- some people like to think for themselves.. Everything web2 isn't rails.
- riklomas, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I imagine it's not built in Rails as it's a downloadable self-hosting application. Rails hosting is still relatively difficult and expensve to get, where as building in PHP gives the application a wider market - and hopefully more people using it.
- majglow, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2I don't understand how you figure that Rails hosting is difficult and expensive to get. I mean, sure, if you are using shared hosting, but if the website is worth anything, it'll be hosted on a dedicated server, at which point getting rails running is quite easy.
I personally hope that I will never have to use PHP again... (a man can dream) - ilijastuden, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Why should it be? Because its cool? ;)
As far as I can see there is not one technical reason why it shouldn’t be in PHP. Benefit is that PHP is widespread platform with great support. And every hosting provider have PHP package (maybe not PHP5 but that will change during time and activeCollab is here to stay). - majglow, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1From personal experience, my time from start to live web application using ruby on rails is a fraction what it is using any other solution I've tried (PHP with various frameworks, asp.NET, and more). That's really what matters to me. Besides, the lack of standardization, slapped on OOP, etc.. with PHP are the things that pushed me away from it. As for the PHP frameworks, Symfony really is big and clunky (IMO) and I haven't used Cake enough to really comment. Ruby on Rails works for me so I use it exclusively for my projects.
- posure, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1All web languages have their purposes.
PHP: Can be used in almost any situation, great documentation.
Rails: Great for AJAX, simple web apps, and building sites quickly. Needs to mature and have better documentation though.
ASP.NET: Great for intranet, portals, and commercial quality libraries (plus .NET is amazing).
JSP/Java: Best scalability, but should be avoided for non-enterprise web apps.
FYI, I use all four of these languages on a regular basis. JSP/Java for work (thankfully we are switching to Perl, anything is better than JSP/Java). ASP.NET for freelance work. Rails for small hobby AJAX apps. PHP for everything else (including most of my personal websites/web apps) as well as aiding Rails applications.
- DavidDigg, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Finally something to kick 37signals in the pants. IMHO those bad asses need it. Writing your own web app framework and then OPEN SOURCING all the secret sauce has to be the most audacious taunt I've ever seen in the software biz. And was it brave or just stupid? Only time will tell.
Check out history of Ruby on Rails at wikipedia- indiekid, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3because single-handledly revolutionizing web programming stands to be much more memorable than a few lightweight apps that will never change the world...
- SSeybold, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Hmmm... I can't get it to install locally. Dangit!
- wcarlsson, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0Don't get the whole "its free" thing, since Basecamp has a free account and I don't think this clone get's you storage for 1GB or anything like it (can't access the site, since it's been posted here) but if you want the "Levi'z" of project management be my guest
- usefulidiot, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1basecamps free solutions are heavily trimmed down and offer a half baked solution that in order to fully solve the problem they set out to solve, you have to pay.
- bluntmanspam, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1The really big thing here is that I can host it on my own servers. That really is the sole reason my company won't pay for or use Basecamp. Open source is just a big bonus that lets me change it to suit our needs. All in all - far better than Basecamp for me.
- geekstar, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I have an account with basecamp and just like it's been purposed, the communication between my team has highly increased. We share necessary files, collaborate on projects, assign tasks, and have an accountability to see when someone last signed in. I like it because it's a hosted site, and the monthly fee is nothing compared to the Starbucks purchases we make. Basecamp may be pretentious but it has served us well.
- smithellis, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Anyone actually get this to install? I can't.
Notice: Undefined index: script_installer_executed_steps in /var/www/newmustard/install/library/classes/ScriptInstaller.class.php on line 318
Warning: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at /var/www/newmustard/install/library/classes/ScriptInstaller.class.php:318) in /var/www/newmustard/install/library/functions.php on line 93
Guess I must actually think and look in the code and stuff. Dang. - dkedinger, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I use basecamp for my design buisness and love it. But we are a small company...anything we can do to save a buck we shall do. I just hope it is a good alternative. Basecamp has some sweet functionality but the ability to have it all stored on our servers...beautiful!!!
- diggfilter, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4If you can't afford Basecamp, you need to go home and cry to your Mommy.
If you can't afford $9, $25 or even $99 to run your business, then you HAVE NO BUSINESS.
Complaining about the cost of Basecamp is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard in my life.- seph200x, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Not everyone uses Basecamp to "run their business". Many use it to collaborate on the development of open source applications. Granted, the free version of Basecamp works well for small projects like that, but for the odd cases where the limitations of BC's free plan are not enough, this should do quite nicely. I hope it prospers, and many of the current issues are sorted out by the time it reaches beta.
- seventoes, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Why would you spend money on something you can get for free?
- surfichris, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1So you run an open source business, you pay for a server and things out of your pocket then you have to pay for additional things (expensively priced for what they are) on top of that?
- rdolishny, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Absolutely agreed. Go cry to mommy! Seriously, Basecamp is a really well written app that has served us well at digitalimagefest.com. We used the free version to book our host, cameraman, write scripts using the Writeboard ... if and when our podcast goes pro of course we'll drop the twenty five bucks or whatever a month. Well worth it to create a community of geographically separated people.
I fail to see how ActiveCollab ripping off something already create is cool or noteworthy, except it makes Basecamp seem that much better. - jasonc221, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I work for a global multi-billion-dollar company, and I doubt I could convince my manager to pony up some money for BaseCamp. It's just not within his operating budget, and he doesn't like project managers in the first place. Adding to this, we could never allow the kind of information we deal with to go outside our corporate network and thus could never use Basecamp.
This program allows me to present a nice project manager that will cost my manager nothing, and hopefully corral our projects into something. Quit thinking that everyone's situation is the same.
- smithellis, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Installed! I like it.
Hey, you know, if you spend $9, $25, or even $99 a month on something that you can get for free, then you might not have a business very long. Just sayin. - ctchan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0just what I've been looking for. :-) I hope it works!
- jtxx000, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1So how does it compare to Trac?
- spectre_25gt, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1"Bush expressed support for a draft..."
I read that and nearly ***** my pants. Then I noticed that the line was just broken by an advertisement
"...U.N. Security Council resolution, backed by Japan, to sanction North Korea for its seven missile tests, which included a long-range Taepodong-2 believed capable of reaching U.S. soil."- spectre_25gt, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6God damnit, digg 3.0 still has that bug where you reply to the wrong story if you openned up multiple tabs. It's even worse now because there's a time limit on making edits (I clicked edit and before I could change it, the edit window disappeared and I was stuck).
- xxdesmus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2tried to install it, but got all kinds of erors...maybe i have a corrupt download, we'll see.
- seventoes, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Same here, but it works when i set it up locally :-
When i try and set it up on an FTP server, i get a bunch of "Notice: Only variables should be assigned by reference in..." errors.... - alexadrian, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0make sure you are using PHP5
- xxdesmus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I've using PHP5, and yes, I get the same Notice: only variables should be assigned by reference..." error. Any ideas?
- neouser99, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@xxdesmus
i haven't used php5 much, but i used php4 a hell of a lot. notice's are nothing. go look at the php5 documentation and find out how to tune down the error reporting. notices aren't errors, they are just things the compilier would wish you would do better.
try here: http://us2.php.net/manual/en/function.error-reporting.php - macarpen, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Install was a breeze for me (php-5.1.4, mysql-5.0.22). In fact this is one of the best web installers I've used. I'll definitely be keeping an eye on the development of this project.
- xxdesmus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1got it working beautifully now. apparently I must have had a bad download, I redownloaded it from the actual site (which is back up for the second at least) and it was a breeze.
- seventoes, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Same here, but it works when i set it up locally :-
- e03179, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Google caches:
http://64.233.187.104/search?q=cache:IzdrqvI4eAwJ:www.activecollab.com/+activecollab&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=3
http://64.233.187.104/search?q=cache:DT8TL3UvZlUJ:www.activecollab.com/blog/+activecollab&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=4- e03179, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1And their RSS feed: http://www.activecollab.com/blog/feed/
/me waits for update via RSS feed
(sorry for the double post)
- e03179, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1And their RSS feed: http://www.activecollab.com/blog/feed/
- canonman, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2It's just nice to finally see something competing with 37 Signals. Someone to knock them off their "We're all high and mighty because we gave birth to Ruby on Rails, the future of the world" Pedestal. Ruby on Rails makes development easier for, guess who?, the developer! Yeah, that's great for us developers but it provides little advantage to the consumer besides a bazillion similar applications.
There is so much unrealized potential even with PHP and current web technologies. As far as I'm concerned, innovation we need is not completely new technologies but full realization of old (such as Dojo Offline storage and RSS Feeds and Microformats). AJAX has theoretically been around for forever but few people ever used it. Look at it now...
Nonetheless, I suppose 37 signals has mastered efficient user interfaces, we've got to give them credit for that... - drycounty, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Agreed. I see a lot of arguments based around the competition factor, but I don't see any arguments about hosting this on your own -- that to me is the truly amazing thing here. Used to be, less reliance on corporate sized volume licenses the better. These days, it's less reliance on outside servers, the better. I truly hope this becomes a more "collaborative" project and we'll see some truly amazing things yet.
- jessethouin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Remember when you couldn't have a Google search engine hosted locally, then Google started selling Google-in-a-box? Well, our company paid the $20k (or whatever) for that appliance and have never looked back (it's amazing).
My point is this: folks wanting a hosted solution immediately can download this app and be happy about it. But for those of us who just want the thing to work, well, I'll wait until 37 sells a hosted version with automatic updates.
Until then, I'm happy with them hosting it.- funkytaco, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I know someone at our data center who bought the Google-in-a-box because he couldn't create or download or install a PHP search script. I think his ran around 3 grand, plus he got a shirt.
- standsolid, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2The word "clone" is being used pretty liberally here...
This is definitely trying to match features -- but it does not seem nearly as simple as basecamp.
But cheers for the efforts so far! I'm sure it will be amazing software that will challenge 37s. - veza, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1no documention at their site ?
- plattopus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0No documentation within the package itself, either... I haven't been able to get it to install yet, but it looks promising.
- boolean, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Here is the documentation: :)
Installation
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1. Download activeCollab
2. Unpack and upload to your web server
3. Direct your browser to /install directory and follow the installation
procedure
Installing a web application can't be done any simpler than this. I got no errors, just needed to enter database info, and I was ready to add my first project. For an alpha release, this application is great. - vivarey, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Gotta love the readme.txt file!
- bondo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@boolean - unfortunately this is not working for me - i get the following error on the last install step
"Failed to import initial data. MySQL said: Duplicate entry '1' for key 1"
will keep investigating to see if i can get it running...
- darylsws, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2We've just installed here (painlessly) and to be honest it looks great (especially as Basecamp has just gone down). One of the greatest advantages of this software is that it's not reliant on a web connection - we've had outages in the past which have meant no access to Basecamp. I suppose the only major downside is that we've got tons of info on Basecamp but thats easily offset by the monetry saving and the fact that our inhouse PHP guru can tweak to his hearts content.
It's all horses for courses but I reckon this "activeCollab" software, albeit a "rip" of basecamp is great.- SuseZ, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Yes, I was just yesterday searching something similar to Basecamp to install it locally and this is JUST what I wanted (even though I didn't tried it). Dugg!!
- bondo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1OK - Ive got this installed now - Its running on Win2003 server - In order to overcome the "Failed to import initial data. MySQL said: Duplicate entry '1' for key 1" error I did the following:
Manually insert a record into table ac_companies - be sure to set both date fields or you'll get an error after first login
Manually insert a user into table ac_users - you'll need to encrypt the password using sha1
Now it is up and running I must say it looks very nice. - simianstyle, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1I just signed up for basecamp yesterday :(
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