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- ncredblstrength, on 05/21/2008, -4/+56Right now someone at Blockbuster is being fired for not thinking of this...
- kirkio, on 05/21/2008, -2/+48The $99 price point on this thing is the real kicker, offering serious competition to the $229+ Apple TV.
- DanteDefiance, on 05/21/2008, -3/+29Hurra! Down with Blockbuster and late fees! Charge me 38 dollars for a video? You'll never get back Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: The Secret of The Ooze!
- atdigg, on 05/21/2008, -0/+23Not only that but Netflix movies are free (if you already have a subscription -- I think a $9/month is enough) iTunes movies are rather expensive. Neflix is constantly adding stuff, they already have 10000 titles...
- oldhick, on 05/21/2008, -8/+28"10 percent of Netflix's 100,000-plus library of titles is available for streaming to the Player." Even worse, only two of Netflix's 100 most popular movies are available for streaming." - http://techdirt.com/articles/20080519/2337061177.s ...
This thing is going to bomb because they don't have the studios behind them. - ianneub, on 05/21/2008, -2/+19This could be the start of something great from Netflix. Give me HD, and more selection, and I'd gladly pay to stream movies to my TV. With enough content, this could even replace my satellite box.
- chaos421, on 05/21/2008, -0/+11i think because most people will watch a movie or tv show once... but want to listen to music over and over again.
- Crosshare, on 05/21/2008, -2/+12Go ninja! Go ninja! Go!!!
- john2kx, on 05/21/2008, -1/+11This thing is only going to stream 10% of Netflix's catalog. The rest of their movies are tied up with licensing issues, etc. While this is a fantastic concept, they need to put the entire catalog on there for it to be really worth something.
- QuimbyDogg, on 05/21/2008, -1/+10Netflix's has over 10,000 titles available for streaming. This box isn't made to replace getting movies in the mail but it is made to supplement it.
The majority of TV series are available for streaming from netflix making this box ideal for watching entire seasons of TV shows between your standard mail rentals--at no additional monthly cost. It really isn't a bad deal at all for a flat $100. With how much buying DVD TV series can cost this box will pay for itself in a weekend marathon of your favorite show. - MacParrot, on 05/21/2008, -0/+8I don't think this will fail because of lack of studio support. With no hard drive and a guarenteed income with subscription services, this is exactly what the studios wanted. No physical product required and in order to access content, you need to connect each time, and you can't (at least with this unit) watch content you have locally. People can't rip their own content and store it so no pirated material. It's the studio's dream. The AppleTV has its own limitations, but I like that I can play content I already own.
Both this box and the AppleTV have some work to do before I would buy either, but I'm not a fan of subscription services so the AppleTV is still closer (but not close enough to pluck down my money) to what I want. - FTLJohnson, on 05/21/2008, -0/+8Is that where your noodly appendage is located?
- Ryan0617, on 05/21/2008, -1/+9Apple tv wasn't really successful to be honest, didnt get the figures it needed. I think this will blow it away.
- winmywii, on 05/21/2008, -1/+8I was going to bury you as an apple fanboy, but you have a point. It may not be the best device for you personally, but I think the majority could careless about podcasts, photos, and/or music on their TV.
- Goya, on 05/21/2008, -0/+7yeah, Ive got a subscription already. And 99 is pretty cheap to get a box. Not to mention I could probably just carry it with me when I travel and access as long as I have wifi. Netflix needs to update tvshows quicker like hulu and it would be even sweeter.
- zacharytelschow, on 05/21/2008, -0/+6If you can't shift the paradigms within which you operate a company, you won't survive a wave of technological advance. Just because this undercuts a good portion of their current and outdated business model doesn't mean they shouldn't have pursued it.
- john2kx, on 05/21/2008, -0/+6Thank you, customer #836374958!
- zacharytelschow, on 05/21/2008, -0/+6I agree with the above, but I also add the caveat that I want at least a small hard drive in this device in order to give me the ability to go back and also to protect against lags in connection (if it can work ahead and give me a few minutes content, if my connection hiccups its no big deal). Also, if there is going to be a hard drive wouldn't it make sense to merge this device with TiVo?
- dixonHill, on 05/21/2008, -0/+6I think because the consumption models are generally quite different. Frequently you want to listen to your tunes any time, anywhere and for years to come. Many people (not all, I know) only watch a movie once, maybe twice. So they're less interested in assurances of long-term ownership.
- adml_shake, on 05/21/2008, -0/+6I agree with MacParrot. If I was a slimy movie exec, I would be looking at this thing as my online dream come true. People can get the movies I want to sell them(because I imagine that netflix probably has to buy some sort of HUGE license for the distribution or pay a small per watched fee) and they have no way of making a copy themselves for watching later. Win win for me.
- kirkio, on 05/21/2008, -0/+6HD's coming...
"The Netflix Player by Roku is HD-ready. Netflix is working to make movies and TV episodes available in HD. When they are ready, your Netflix Player by Roku will also be ready." - autosovereign, on 12/06/2008, -0/+6Netflix doesn't have many movies available for internet streaming, but I'm still hoping that it may make ISPs offer faster connections to allow for video streaming. This is something that should have happened 5+ years ago, but the state of broadband in the US has hurt innovation like this.
- MScrip, on 05/21/2008, -0/+5> "This thing is going to bomb because they don't have the studios behind them."
C'mon. Just give them time. It will get better.
Imagine Netflix is a building. In one room there are millions of DVDs, every DVD ever made. And in another room there is a server containing only about 10,000 movies ready to be streamed.
It's only a matter of time before all of Netflix's DVD content ends up across the hall onto the servers. It has to. Netflix wants to ditch the expensive post office. This is their future delivery system. Everyone keeps saying the disc is dead... Netflix is the #1 disc renter... this box is the beginning of the future. - kurgaan, on 05/21/2008, -0/+5In my humble opinion, the big impact will be when you can watch TV shows on demand. If Netflix can demonstrate some success with movies, they will start getting some rights on TV shows. There is huge potential to disrupt the present TV distribution system. Cable and satellite providers have invested huge amounts of money into infrastructure. The Internet is already there. Netflix or whomever does not have to invest in the distribution infrastructure. The amount of money that cable and satellite providers skim of the top can be used to offer cheaper prices to consumers and/or pay higher prices to the people that own the rights for the shows. Being able to pay more for the shows will give them greater buying power to cut the cable people out. Also, giving consumers the option of free shows with commercials or fee based viewing commercial free. This system also makes individual target ads much easier. I won't have to watch diaper commercials if I really just want to buy a new car. We would all prefer to watch shows with commercials that are tailored for our own interests, rather than the interests of mass market.
The best thing ever is that the internet covers the whole world. Netflix could grab global distribution rights for shows/movies and be raking in billions in revenue from a global market. Again, no investment in infrastruction required. This is gunna be huge. - simpletwist, on 05/21/2008, -0/+5But you can still get the stuff not available for streaming delivered to your door through your Netflix subscription. It's not one or the other.
- melpost, on 05/21/2008, -2/+7GO NETFLIX!!!!!!!!!!!!
- daborg, on 05/21/2008, -0/+5Because 99% of the time you only want to watch a movie once.
- peestandingup, on 05/21/2008, -0/+5IMO, Apple still doesn't understand the video market. No one wants to download/pay for separately every piece of video they may wanna watch. They're treating it too much like music downloads & trying to tie it in with all their other portable products. If I watched 10 movies on AppleTV, I'd be out well over $100. If I did that on this Netflix device, I'd be out $8.
I think Netflix has the right idea by offering a flat monthly rate & a smorgasbord of content. This is how we'll move away from classic cable TV & into digital distribution online. - delvach, on 05/21/2008, -0/+5Ditto to john2kx; only a fraction of my queue is available for instant viewing, and mainly just old niche stuff, barely any recent movies or even decade-old sci-fi TV. It looks like a winner from a cost & feature point of view, but I'm definitely holding off until there are a few thousand more titles available.
- seeinpixels, on 05/21/2008, -0/+5I think it'll be a win for them when they offer HD content. Right now it's just swinging for the fences.
- inactive, on 05/21/2008, -0/+4The lower half is always the best. At least that's what I tell my wife.
- nonymous666, on 05/21/2008, -0/+4* Bandwidth not included.
- tiuk, on 05/21/2008, -0/+3Sweet! Now if only my ISP wasn't locking me down to 60 GB a month I wouldn't have to worry about getting disconnected for using a legit service.
Really though, I can see this going somewhere great. All they need to do is beef up their catalog in terms of titles and HD content. - Skizzlizzit, on 05/21/2008, -1/+4I agree! I've had netflix for a few years now and I think they need to do some major additions to their "watch now" menu of this will never take off.
- jjustice, on 05/21/2008, -0/+3Maybe for right now, but tools like this will increase the demand for higher bandwidth. That seems to be the way internet bandwidth has worked in the last 5-10 years - someone invents a technology that pushes bandwidth limits, it gets popular, then bandwidth is increased to compensate.
- peestandingup, on 05/21/2008, -0/+3http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFLGRidfFo4
- dean888, on 05/21/2008, -0/+3I still like my Media Center better, I can stream it to my XBox and I don't have to buy another box to sit on top of the tv. So if you have Vista and a 360 and a netflix account you just download this link and you are already set up.
http://myweb.cableone.net/eluttmann04/projects/vmc ... - dood, on 05/21/2008, -0/+3Which half?
- lichme5000, on 05/21/2008, -2/+5I really, really wish Apple would move to a subscription-based model for movie rentals. I love both Apple and Netflix, and because I'm a serious Apple fanboy, I'd love for AppleTV to dominate. However, this Netflix offering is just way better--a flat fee, and I can rent movies *and* TV shows. I suspect if Apple ever moves to a model where you can rent movies, you'll still have to buy TV shows. I personally rent lots of TV via Netflix (mostly HBO stuff), and their model makes it so much cheaper.
So, if and when Netflix has HD, and expands their catalog so that everything (or nearly everything) is downloadable, I'll be in heaven. - john2kx, on 05/21/2008, -1/+4it's DVD quality. Is that really so awful to you?
- nonymous666, on 05/21/2008, -0/+2The legacy half.
- neil1492, on 05/21/2008, -0/+2I'm glad that Netflix is pushing the envelope. I think that $8.99 is a very reasonable price to watch all the movies you want. Hopefully Apple and Microsoft will take note of this and offer a similar plan for their hardware.
- Zenham, on 05/21/2008, -0/+2Bought mine yesterday. I don't care if it doesn't play everything yet, doesn't yet offer HD movies, or that it obsoletes most of my DVD collection. There's about ten thousand other titles streamable that I've not watched yet. They're expanding the streaming program, so it will get better.
I'm a TV-series-on-DVD-a-year-later kind of person, and for $99, I can definitely predict I'll get my money's worth. - MrFurious2k, on 05/21/2008, -0/+2I've been using their streaming on PC for a while. It's good, but almost none of the new movies are available. As a result, if you're a classic movie fan you'll find a lot to love, but if you just want to see the latest and greatest you'll be quite disappointed.
- nonymous666, on 05/21/2008, -0/+2fyi, a few years ago, it was reported by TiVo that they were working with Netflix on integrating a netflix download service with the TiVo. It never went anywhere, though.
Also, adding a harddrive would add to the $99 price which they probably want to keep low in order to cut the legs off of device offerings like the $230 Apple TV. - mrsteveman1, on 05/21/2008, -0/+2Well thats the funny thing, cable and satellite are already subscriptions, no one has ever paid for each ***** show like on iTunes, not even the old C band satellites, you paid for an entire channel per month.
I have no idea why Apple or content owners think anyone wants to BUY single TV shows, I'm not even sure why they sell shows on DVD, its a waste of money for something you watch once perhaps. - john2kx, on 05/21/2008, -0/+2Some people aren't watching movies on 60 inch OLED HDTVs.
Then again, some are and can easily "tolerate" DVD quality. - thund3rstruck, on 05/22/2008, -0/+2Forget the 360, if the XBOX Media Center devs made XBMC a compatible netflix device I would have died and gone to heaven
- SteveIsTheDude, on 05/21/2008, -0/+2No, his wang comes out of his forehead....
- randomchar, on 05/21/2008, -1/+3I'll stick with my pre-release DVDRip XviD movies from bittorrent.
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