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- TopherT, on 10/12/2007, -8/+50But can it run Vista?
- Termina, on 10/12/2007, -10/+51Does it run Vista? Might need some more memory.
- binky79, on 10/12/2007, -1/+42Hard to believe that in 15-20 years ill be kicking a computer that powerful sitting under my desk, calling it a "Piece of *****".
- cyrix, on 10/12/2007, -6/+44They are. It's called the Playstation 3.
:D - nuclearpenguins, on 10/12/2007, -10/+46To quote our friends from Slashdot, "Yes, but does it run Linux?"
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -6/+42It neglected, in the article, to mention that these are actually the minimum specs for Duke Nukem Forever.
- rebrad, on 10/12/2007, -9/+44To quote our friends from Digg. "Yes, but does it run OSX and iTunes?
- dirtyfratboy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+31Overclock it.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -11/+41Of course it runs Linux... but does it run Vista?
- rolypolyman, on 10/12/2007, -2/+30The article didn't say what they intend to do with it, but at 400 TB I think we can safely assume that porn is involved.
- tvidas, on 10/12/2007, -0/+27not 1.21 jiggawatts?! Great scott! how did they do it?
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+24At 7GB per DVD, it should hold somewhere around 50-60 thousand DVDs. In Memory.
400000000/7000
About 1.5 million DVDs in storage.
11000000000/7000 - FlyboyP, on 10/12/2007, -11/+30My brain runs at about 1 flop. When I go to the bathroom I can make a P flop. Once I dropped my laptop computer and it did a flip flop.
And finally, did the founder of this company call his father "Craydaddy?"
I'm done. - CatFood, on 10/12/2007, -3/+20And it will rip them and encode them into mpeg4 in 5 seconds.
- Metal_Hurlant, on 10/12/2007, -1/+17Err.. is there any scientific evidence to say a human brain can do 10 petaflops, or is that one of those truthiness(tm)-driven numbers?
I'd love to see the evidence. Maybe something like.. "Yes, well, we hypnotized this young orphan into thinking he was a computer, then we plugged those sharp electrodes through his skull. It worked so well, we had to start a business reselling orphan CPU power in bulk for distributed computation projects. 10 orphan girls can crack an AES key in one hour flat, you know."
Any chance the poster quoted it backward and that 10 petaflops might just be some AI researchers' wild-haired guess as to what would be the bare minimum needed to emulate brain processes reasonably accurately?
Ps: "truthiness" is a registered trademark of The Colbert Report with Stephen Colbert. - BitSlash, on 10/12/2007, -0/+15dude, don't go there.
- wpgbrownie, on 10/12/2007, -1/+15If it can hold 4,724,464,025 songs, and say each song on average is 3 minutes long. It would approximately take 26,966 years to listen to them all back to back. :)
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+15i think it's safe to say, when toasters start running linux you can pretty much stop asking about computers
- kanecorp, on 10/12/2007, -3/+15if apple was still using IBM they'd claim their quad G5 system is faster ^_^
- Nighthawke, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12Thar goes AMD's stock, straight to the moon! *Buys all he can afford.*
- BugMeNot2, on 10/12/2007, -4/+15If it has a 3D accelerator card, yes.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12STFU, newb!
*Smack across face*
Ghz doesn't accurately measure proccessing power. - cyrix, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13Dr. Emmett Brown: No, no, no. This sucker's electrical, but I need a nuclear reaction to generate the 1.21 jigawatts of electricity I need.
Marty McFly: Doc, you don't just walk into a store and buy plutonium. Did you rip that off?
Dr. Emmett Brown: Shhhhhh. Of course. From a group of Libyan nationalists. They wanted me to build them a bomb, so I took their plutonium and in turn, gave them a shiny bomb-casing full of used pinball machine parts. Come on! Let's get you a radiation suit. We have to prepare to reload.
Just for the sake of posting it. :p - RamezaniK, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10Your iTunes XML file would be insanely large.
- mastercheif, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10Rofl, I remeber when I bought my 512MB hard drive saying "Great, thats the last Hard Drive Ill ever need".
- cybernetic798, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10A few comments:
Those of you who are talking about how many songs it can encode or dvds it can compress or whatever have to realize that the application needs to be able to be parallelized first. Parallel algorithms require quite a bit of ingenuity. Secondly, there will need to be very fine (low-level) optimizations in algorithms or else it will not be possible to surpass Amdahl's limit (a formula that says how much you can gain from parallelizing an algorithm as a theoretical max, that can be surpassed by using techniques like cache blocking). So don't really expect to see 24,000 times the performance of a single Opteron computer.
The ppl who are talking about the brain being 10 times more powerful - that figure comes from an estimate that it would require X amount of processors to simulate the brain neuron for neuron and adding up the FLOPS of each processor. Obviously, this is not a valid comparison because the brain's uniqueness comes from the fact that it is so massively parallel, not because each neuron is capable of doing Y amount of FLOPS or anything like that. Our brain is actually capable of very low FLOPS as common sense tells you.
Comparison to Blue Gene - note that FLOPS is measured using Gaussian Elimination speed in LINPACK. That test is very CPU centric but not datacentric. The Cray computers actually perform much better in memory benchmarks than the Blue Gene (in fact one recently broke the Terabyte/sec mark, setting a record).
People saying in 10 years this amount of power will be in your desk: that actually might not be true since Moore's law is starting to fail. Even if process technology kept increasing, we cannot surpass the molecular limit (how can you have a transistor less than a molecule in size?!?) so likely you won't get that much power in your desk unless something truly novel is done.
My 2 cents. - urbanrant, on 10/12/2007, -7/+17I would like to know just how many MP3s or DVDs that thing can hold to get a perspective of the volume.
Digg This! - RamezaniK, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11"And it will rip them and encode them into mpeg4 in 5 seconds."
They didn't say anything about super-fast DVD drives. - AntiMe, on 10/12/2007, -12/+21Submitter exaggerates (and can't read). They're building a 170 MW station to support this and other projects. There's no way it'd take this much power. I'd say... 24000x100W=2.4MW a little extra, so maybe 5MW tops.
- Knoton, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9Sure as far as numbers go the overall "speed" would have been faster but the overall processing power would have been less.
- thras, on 10/12/2007, -1/+910 a second? It usually takes me longer than that to perform just one floating point operation. And sometimes I have to get out paper and pen.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+11"bet 15 - 20 years ago if I brang my computer back in time they would be like "
Dude, you just used the non-word "brang" . . . - tupuli, on 10/12/2007, -4/+11"I can read. My description was too long so i had to shorten everything. however, it will use much more than 5MW, it uses over 100."
That simply doesn't make sense. That would imply that (ignoring other components) each processor is consuming approx 4000 Watts, which is about 40x higher than one would expect.
Your assertion is completely false, please quit spreading bad information. Why are people modding antime's comment down? - boredzo, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9--comment_digg; for the "hahaha". If you have to laugh at your own joke, it isn't funny. (In this case, it would have been... if it hadn't already been made a few top-level comments ago.)
- sooperdooper, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Actually, I wondered why they used AMD processors as well. I just thought they used custom hardware, I wondered why they didn't use some special futuristic processor or something.
- dtfinch, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8This will be even bigger news when it's built.
- ZachPruckowski, on 10/12/2007, -5/+11yes, but how many video cards does it have, and at what resolution will it play Unreal Tournament 2007?
- mrASSMAN, on 10/12/2007, -8/+14According to my quick calculation.. at 2.5MB each, it could hold 4724464025 songs.. i might be wrong..
edit: mac2492 edited his comment.. - konstantinr, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6No, in 15-20 years, computers will be kicking you.
- SniperX, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Luckily these should be in homes by the time Duke Nukem Forever is out.
- cybernetic798, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6No the brain is not capable of an insane amount of FLOPS. The brain is massively parallel (neurons) but the way they get this 10 petaflop figure is by taking a random guess that to emulate the brain neuron for neuron would require that much power. Obviously, that isn't a fair comparison. I mean one could just turn the table and say the brain can only do 0.2 FLOPS since I can't multiply a IEEE754 format floating point number very fast at all...
- rawdog79, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6That thing would get pretty hot. How are they going to cool it? Glacial run-off?
- lmlloyd, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6"I agree, even some crazy sevant cant do that. I dont think you can rate the brain on specs like that. It may be able to lookup 'unchached' information REALLY quickly and recall random details about things... but floating point operations? Honestly, at 32 bits, thats like 21,402,823,596,300,114,588,974,123,657,894,561,234,567 * 34,028,235,846,321,747,962,123,044,235,741,236,142,578. Find me some one that can do 10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 of those in a second. I can do MAYBE 1 in 30 min."
Ah, but close your eyes and imagine a tree in a field. The amazing thing is that without any conscious thought, that tree you are imagining has perfect shading, shadowing, and lighting properties that even the best program on the best computer in the world would have a hard time matching. If you have a particularly good imagination, the leaves are probably moving in an imagined breeze, and there might even be millions of blades of grass surrounding the tree, all moving to the same breeze. Do you have any idea how many floating point operations it would take to simulate that scene on a computer? - Idiot900, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Assuming it's like the Cray XT3, it will run Suse on the service nodes and Catamount (extremely stripped down OS supporting a subset of POSIX) on the compute nodes.
- cranium, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7Really?
whats 8938894.3298 / 389902.39884 ? QUICK!!... - adolfojp, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5How do you measure the speed of the brain in petaflops? No, really, how do you?
- dasunst3r, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7That's probably more songs than there are in existence! Maybe we could use lossless formats instead (I'm thinking FLAC)! :D
- alphgeek, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5And if it's the former, I need an upgrade.
- pegisys, on 10/12/2007, -8/+13I agree NASA should get more money but you are saying black historical colleges like it's a bad thing
if anyone should get more money it should be schools - Wardvark, on 10/12/2007, -8/+13At the rate things are going we might see these in stores before vista.
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