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- o0joshua0o, on 07/23/2008, -0/+79I hate how the RIAA and MPAA are always shouting "Our business model is falling!" "Our business model is falling!" and the government is always willing to step in and support anti-consumer laws to artificially prop them up.
What I want to know is, since when is the government responsible for propping up ANYONE'S business model? If the market no longer wants their services, let them fail like any other company.
The only possible exception to this is companies that are essential to the economy or national security. Even then, the government should think long and hard before deciding to bail them out. - Renian, on 07/23/2008, -0/+54***** THE MPAA
And the RIAA too. Just for good measure. - alexra, on 07/23/2008, -0/+46the point of a DVR, TiVo, is to be able to record something so you can watch it later, apperently the MPAA, and Hollywood don't realize people have busy lives and don't have time to watch tv whenever they want, so thats why we have DVRS, and TiVos. Why can't the companies, you know try to actually use this new technology to make things better, instead they just try to destroy it.
- Wargalas, on 07/23/2008, -3/+34And this is yet another reason why I don't have AT&T or DirecTV
- Ethek, on 07/23/2008, -0/+21You sir have hit at the core of the problem, corporatism. As soon as people learn they can vote assets out of other peoples pockets then democracy is doomed. It will ultimately fail with some type of totalitarian system.
Add the fact that companies are protected with the same rights as individuals but with all the power and leverage that direct access to politicians bring, then it is private/government backed monopolistic companies voting money out of your pockets. This is not a Republican or Democrat problem, albeit the further to the left the system leans the more leverage can be applied on your personal assets and freedoms. We have the answer and its a constitutional republic that actually follows the constitution regarding when and where the government acts. - inactive, on 07/23/2008, -0/+20Because Comcast and Verizon are pillars of our freedom right?
- inactive, on 07/23/2008, -2/+21Funny, I would pick my house.
Why in the god damn ***** do I still need to drive to a big building and sit in a ***** chair packed into a room with people I dont ***** know to watch a new movie? Are we still in the *****?
Movie theaters need to die, they out lived their usefulness the minute Big Screen TVs became main stream. My home system both looks and sounds better than any theater around here, and my nice big chair is a ***** load more comfortable too. I also dont have to pay 5 ***** dollars for a ***** soda. - ultimate_ed, on 07/23/2008, -7/+25So, it's a question of what business model gets artificially propped up by government - Movie theaters vs. PPV? Well, if government intervention is inevitable, I think I'm going to have to go with the movie theaters. At least there you can be assured of a full resolution image. I don't trust the cable and satellite companies not to end up compressing the supposed "HD" content into mediocrity to squeeze more channels out of the same bandwidth. Image quality has continued its march downhill.
Is there really a good reason to have the PPV intermediate step anymore? Video stores are everywhere and online with Blockbuster and Netflix make is pretty easy to get DVD/Blueray to your home. - icndvl, on 07/23/2008, -0/+16I predict a sudden drop in PVR sales and a sudden increase in bittorent use.
- inactive, on 07/23/2008, -2/+18In theory I dont have an issue with what they want, to only enable it for new stuff that is not out on DVD yet. This would lead to being able to watch new movies at home instead of having to go to the movie theater (I hope).
But in practice this is a door that should never be opened, because we all know damn well this is just their way to get their foot in the door and then start making things more restrictive overtime. Later it would be something like "until 3 months after the DVD release" and just go up from there.
So ***** this idea, and the MPAA. - mediaspree, on 07/23/2008, -1/+16So Comcast is the good guy here?
- RealmDown, on 07/23/2008, -0/+13The point of DVR, TiVo, is to be able to avoid the REALLY annoying demands to buy products, which is what commercials have morphed into.
- inactive, on 07/23/2008, -0/+12this is stupid. do they think we wont be able to record streams? lol they seriously underestimate the hacking community. I am not condoning their decision, I am just simply stating that when they do implement this like the ***** head retards they are, it will just be another hacked object in my home theater setup...like my xbox360, xbox, ps2, computer, and so forth.
and on a side note.....wouldnt this destroy ratings for shows like american idol? or the superbowl....not to sure if DVR counts as a viewer or not for ratings - krnldmp, on 07/23/2008, -1/+11Everybody wants their sausage fingers in your pie.
- Hoinah, on 07/23/2008, -0/+10scumbags
- cathpah, on 07/23/2008, -4/+13sounds like it's time for everyone to return those shiny new iphones back to the at&t stores!
- bar10dr, on 07/23/2008, -0/+9This is going to backfire sooo hard, its really amazing how they again and again prove that they're awful chess players.
- CrazedLeper, on 07/23/2008, -0/+8There are no good guys in fascism.
- Fratz, on 07/23/2008, -2/+9I have generally been very anti-DRM in any form, also against technologies that don't do what I tell them to. But I'm starting to think that maybe we should let the industry shoot itself in the foot by locking everything down so tightly that new media like vidcasts will become far easier to view, by comparison.
- dynamojoe, on 07/23/2008, -0/+7Consider if everyone who TiVO'd the Super Bowl found out they weren't permitted to record it. It's probably the only backlash that the companies would feel -hundreds of thousands of angry calls and pages of bad press.
- DJRobX, on 07/23/2008, -0/+7At some point the Holywood just needs to accept a loss of control. CSS, AACS, and BD+ have done nothing to stop piracy. Per the usual, the only thing this "protection" scheme will accomplish is punishing legitimate users, and making cracking and distribution groups feel more smug about having bypassed their scheme.
- inactive, on 07/23/2008, -0/+6I'm ready to just cut off my sat dish, its not worth the cost, i only watch about 8 channels at max. Half the time its re-runs , they don't produce decent enough content for me to even want the dvr function.
- Pandalume, on 07/23/2008, -0/+6Were they ever any different?
- RealmDown, on 07/23/2008, -0/+6They used to not be as "in your face" and tended to ASK you to buy their product. Listen to the phrasing now. They don't ask, they tell you to buy. And I like to see any of them be polite if I walked into their store and started talking at the same volume they use.
- MavRevMatt, on 07/23/2008, -0/+5What about the other big companies? Have they said anything yet?
- Wargalas, on 07/23/2008, -0/+5Never said I have them either. :)
- ByteGuerilla, on 07/23/2008, -0/+5Adverts would be much more acceptable if they were just three minutes of silent billboard-esque stuff instead of ***** ramping the volume up just for the advert break so you have the turn the damn TV down just to be able to talk to each other.
- anachronaut, on 07/23/2008, -0/+4"This is not a Republican or Democrat problem, albeit the further to the left the system leans the more leverage can be applied on your personal assets and freedoms"
The last 7 years or so most definitely prove otherwise, and it's really been that way for much longer than that. I'm not saying that the current crop of Democrats is any better (because they aren't; both sides have sold out the American public in favor of corporatism), but the infestation and usurpation of the GOP by extreme religious fundamentalists/pro-lifers, chickenhawks and neocons has drastically changed the political landscape in this country, and the true conservatives out there have been strangely slow to pick up on that fact (they don't want to admit to themselves what their once respectable party has become, perhaps, and that they really no longer have a party representing their interests -- then again, the progressive/liberals are in the same boat). Other than that, good post. - Andrwmorph, on 07/23/2008, -1/+5Many people enjoy the experience of the movie theater enough to warrant going. And maybe if you didn't always get a soda you would fit into the theater seats.
- tRANIS, on 07/23/2008, -0/+4If they push to hard, people will just start using media PCs.
I will admit that we have Dish Network here thru AT&T and we wouldn't have it except that my mother has it on her side. It is very nice to record things to watch later, even pay per views, on demand, etc. I can only assume that when we leave we will go back to no TV and downloading what we want to watch. - macdady843, on 07/23/2008, -1/+5"Is there really a good reason to have the PPV intermediate step anymore? "
Uhh yeaa because a lot of us are either too lazy to go to the video store (i'm one of them), or don't want to wait for a DVD to get mailed to us. How are you gonna bash the convenience of ordering a PPV from your couch at a price of $3 to $4 dollars? - rulezgetbent, on 07/23/2008, -1/+5stupid. Like the videos I torrent are really HD anyway.
- maggotsan, on 07/23/2008, -0/+3Strategy is irrelevant when you can buy the win.
- inactive, on 07/23/2008, -0/+3On the one hand, get ripped off, sit with annoying cretins who kick you chair, clap, talk, bring their brats, and use their cellphones.
On the other hand, get crappy pixelated ***** and unreliable service.
On the gripping hand, be patient till it comes out on DVD./ Blu ray. why the hell do you need to see it right away? its not going anywhere. - cgruber, on 07/23/2008, -0/+3PPV and VOD is where most tv/cable/sat providers make the most money so it's not surprising that they would do whatever they can to get the PPV/VOD window mvoed up to or before DVD sales.
- dondara, on 07/23/2008, -0/+3Bet you never thought you'd write that, huh?
- silicongat, on 07/23/2008, -0/+3And while we're at it. ***** THE GOVERNMENT!!
- Asvetic, on 07/23/2008, -0/+3This sounds like Monopolistic practices... where's my government to sweep in and appeal some abominable actions?!
- mrwhitethc, on 07/23/2008, -0/+3If you look at the bitrates some of these providers are shoving down their pipes you wouldn't want PPV either. They just keep cramming more and more "HD" channels on the same pipe and lowering the bitrate to DVD or sub-DVD levels. I have tons of content copied to DVHS and then transfered to the computer for backup you would be surprised at the amount of 1080p movies with Dolby 5.1 sound that each fit on their own dual layer DVD. No AVC, no VC-1 this is straight up MPEG-2 just like DVD. If it's a drama or comedy usually this will be a non-issue but when you are talking big name blockbusters and action movies it just all turns into a pixilated mess. I'll take the theater or content I rent on disc over PPV any day of the week, at least I know I have a better shot of getting a decent picture.
- paganhobbit, on 07/23/2008, -0/+3If it's not reruns, it's "Paid Programming" catering to obese people or get rich quick schemes. In the mornings, half of our channels have it. I'd just soon have them go off the air as show that stuff. Who the hell's watching it anyway? How are they possibly making back enough money to pay for all that airtime?
- akrondude, on 07/23/2008, -2/+5FTA: A vice president of DIRECTV takes a similar stance. "The requested waiver would not deprive any consumer of services she currently has access to.
so now they're against men, too?? - blacklilyninja, on 07/23/2008, -0/+3what they are doing is trying to create a false sense of necessity. Assuming that because we have a choice they are not going to succeed.
What apple, at&t, mpaa and riaa are doing is slowly making a market where we just automatically have to pay for a service or product we don't want just to get something we do want. Eventually they will be creating a thing called "communication portal" where all services arrive in one delivery package and you will be forced to pay for a monthly download of whatever product. At&t wants full control over the internet. (just a prediction) - smacksaw, on 07/23/2008, -0/+2This article pretty much makes the case for regulation. I'm all for deregulation when it gives consumers choice. When it doesn't? That's when you use it.
The problem is that a bunch of people on the right have been duped into thinking that Sony or AT&T having too many businesses/monopolies is somehow a product of consumer choice in the free market. That's what they want you to think. And the other problem is that the people on the left want to regulate these businesses into the ground to the point where it's like AT&T before the breakup, which was ridiculous if you were alive to have experienced it.
All of these companies need to be split up. Look at Sony. They make films they want to protect, yet they make devices capable of stealing their media? AT&T gives you internet service, but also cable. And internet media is threatening their cable business. I'm sure they've got your best interests in mind.
Very simple, akin to what TiVo said in the article - regulate these industries until you get the desired result, then stop. Sirius/XM merger? A good thing. Too much regulation is killing that entire industry. AT&T? Split 'em up. They need more regulation. They can't protect their internet customers without hurting their cable business and they can't give good internet to their mobile customers without hurting their internet business. - jessenoob, on 07/23/2008, -0/+2Charter?
- Wargalas, on 07/23/2008, -0/+2FTA or Free To Air. Google search it and you'll see what I mean.
- bodiddlie, on 07/23/2008, -0/+2"The logistics involved in gathering the family and transporting them to a theater, finding seats together, and all that is involved in that, not to mention the cost of feeding a family at a theater, has put the idea of first-run movies out of reach for many Americans," Norquist wrote.
Hilarious. Yeah, the cost of going to a theater is out of reach, but a fully digitally cabable, HD setup with proper HDMI connections to allow these people to actually see SOC blocked content is more likely to be in the home. I know HD is slowly catching on, but most people still have CRT TV's and have their cable box (if they even have one) hooked up via an RF jack. - bbqsalad, on 07/23/2008, -0/+2Stop giving these people your money. You survived before them, you can survive without them. Watch how fast they change when they are broke.
- Ratteler, on 07/23/2008, -4/+6The only thing the Jews in Hollywood learned from the holocaust.......WAS FASCISM!
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