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- EGOvoruhk, on 10/12/2007, -12/+78Why would you be an Intel faboy? Before 2006, wasn't AMD the fastest and cheapest for quite some time? Either way, being a CPU manufacturer fanboy seems quite idiotic
- Omega697, on 10/12/2007, -2/+43AMD was founded in 1969, one year after Intel.
- AncientWeird, on 10/12/2007, -17/+57Intel fanboy? You might as well call yourself a Papermate fanboy.
- 3monkeys, on 10/12/2007, -3/+42I wouldn't call AMD an upstart. Plus Intel is facing similar problems. The microprocessor market is cyclic, these things happen.
- V1ncent, on 10/12/2007, -5/+42Feh. Fanboyism is stupid. Use whatever processor give you the most bang for the buck at the time you're buying/building a new rig. It doesn't matter WHO makes it, it matters if it's the best value at the time.
- dirtyfratboy, on 10/12/2007, -5/+38Keep making great products, and the money will follow. AMD hasn't introduced anything truly groundbreaking in a while, so of course the market's going to cool.
- spectre_25gt, on 10/12/2007, -1/+21Agreed. Intel's Core series really has the market interested right now. AMD needs to come up with something that will steal back some of the spotlight.
- MikeCampo, on 10/12/2007, -4/+23From the title, I thought they fessed up to buying ATI :p
- HappyScrappy, on 10/12/2007, -2/+20AM286? Remember the 2901?
http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/2901/index.html
n00bs.
I did a lot of work with the AMD 29000 series. I had so many company reps on my, I think I was their only customer for the processor. I had the phrasing "only customer for the chip" in my comment, but the stupid processor was comprised of multiple chips (common at the time, the Moto 88000 was the same way). What a disaster. - drawkbox, on 10/12/2007, -2/+20Your not a fan of competition even if you are a fanboy? Intel has been pushed by AMD, AMD pushed by intel. We'd all be running 1.1 GHz top of the line if intel was still in charge slowly controlling processing speed and our technological progression for the bottom line. competition is ALWAYS good. ITs all the rave too, Apple vs MS, Google vs MS, Intel vs AMD its better if you become a competition like 2pac v Biggie, Bush v Gore. Its all a game but its human nature.
- Gman1223, on 10/12/2007, -8/+26Huh? What are you smoking dude lol
- OBKenobi, on 10/12/2007, -2/+19[quote]the upstart chip company's sales are slowing.[/quote]
How many decades do you have to be in business before they no longer label you an "upstart"?
AMD has been in business longer than Microsoft and Apple! - spectre_25gt, on 10/12/2007, -2/+19K6? Try AM286. They've been around for quite some time.
- MikeCampo, on 10/12/2007, -8/+21"Whatever it is, I want some of it."
You enjoy being retarded? - danrien, on 10/12/2007, -9/+20lol upstart. 30+ years in the biz marks you an upstart?
- drwiii, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12Wow. Slower sales during roll-out of a new socket and before a huge price cut.
Who would've thought. - bossm4n, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8I have built approximately 10 boxes over the last 2 years with AMD processors, the last one using an X2 3800 which cost around $300 at the time. I just built an Intel rig using a Presler 930 which cost approximately $200. The benchmarks are nearly identical. Intel currently offers a bit more bang for the buck, especially in the dual core arena. Based on a recent article here on digg, it looks like Inte and AMD are about to get into a major price war, with AMD dropping quite a few lines. This is a win-win for consumers. The processors are not only getting faster, they're getting cheaper. By saying they were going to drop certain processors in an effort to compete in a price war with Intel, they pretty much fessed up to falling sales before this article.
- JayRod, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10I still have my old AMD K6-III 450. It spanked the, at the time, new Pentium III 450. And was almost dead even with the Pentium III 500 that was clocked higher. And of course Intel responded back with the Coppermine. I think that was probably the beginning of the all out war of AMD vs. Intel.
- clickwir, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Drop some of those X2 chips under $200 and I'll be over hauling a few systems that haven't seen new parts in 5-6 years.
- G33k0ft3chz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5At least they confessed their sales have been slowing and not keep it to themselves so I think they have once again done something right in the industry.
Hopefully they will make a great chip again so they can revive what they had and still do kind have. - OBKenobi, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7Yes, forcing everyone into DX10, PCIe, SATA, and DDR2 kind of put a damper on upgrades! Now many of us have to wait until all the next-gen parts are released before upgrading, otherwise it's a complete waste of money.
I find these new MBs with 10 SATA ports and only one IDE port to be ridiculous. Lots of us still have large-capacity, fast IDE drives! There's no reason to throw them away except because motherboard makers refuse to put on an extra $.50 port! - Dabellah, on 10/12/2007, -5/+10I go where the numbers are in performance ratings. Intel has always had the best reliability in my book though (and in the earlier days of AMD, the definite unargued support and dependability). AMD has gotten much better, but their price hike a few years ago on their best processors to imitate that of Intel just turned me off on their line and was a big fat display on how they aren't as geared toward the market in the way I thought they were. I thought they were going to be that underdog that sells cheap but awesome parts, but they just turned that whole spectrum around. Hell they just released an AMD 64 LIVE! chip. WTF is that all about AMD? I mean come on! I wuv you! Give me original the way it used to be!
PS: I am not a fanboy of either as stated in the beginning. I go where the numbers are and the bang for the buck, and Intel obviously wins the war this year. That and I can buy Intel dirt ass cheap through retailedge programs ^^ - can't beat 200 bucks for a mobo, processor and full xp pro (with adobe photoshop and premier elements no less). Talk about sweet. - Dustyb, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Oh well. I hope even if the stay passed Intel in sales they don't start acting like Intel. I don't have any loyalties, I go where the product is better.
- killerofkiller, on 10/12/2007, -4/+9boy i think you might be legally retarded /end Sean Connery voice
- zbeast, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I would love to buy a new amd chip.
I can't bring myself to spend $1200.00 on a amd fx 62 939.
I have to wait till the price comes down.
In the up comming price war. - OBKenobi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4[quote]Plus Intel is facing similar problems.[/quote]
Only Intel has put out a vastly improved chip at a great price, which I plan on buying to run that upcoming bloated, bug-infested behemoth of an OS that I will not name. I think you know which one I mean.
The ball is in AMD's court, they have to come up with something new, or drastically lower prices before the holiday shopping season. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5AMD "upstart chip company"? n00b
- krazytom, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5AMD and Intel Stocks may go down because of price cutting wars? that's a shame... I guess I'll just have to settle with upgrading my system for dirt cheap.
- mynuts, on 10/12/2007, -7/+10Remember the K6? AMD has been around forever...
- M1ndless, on 10/12/2007, -4/+7*Gasp* CPU sales are dropping during the summer? Breaking news! Oh, Intel has announced this kind of thing many times before.
- pabster, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5CPU fanboys are idiots.
I've used both companies' processors ever since the 286. They both have their strengths and weaknesses.
I've been extremely pleased with my dual-core AMD boxes (X2 / FX60). And I'm looking forward to Conroe, as well as AMD's future chips. COMPETITION IS A GOOD THING. If not for AMD, Intel would still be selling ALL their chips for $1200 a pop. Keep that in mind. - jabon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Yeah of course their sales are slowing. I bought a 3400+ a year and a half ago and have had never to buy one again. They make excellent processors that stand the test the time. I can imagine a economic analyst could find a calculation for this in some way: for instance,[ quality / time ] / (future sales - quantity).
- carguy84, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5AMD is going to be a great stock buy in a few weeks.
- adachan, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4upstart? Hasn't AMD been around for like.... 30 years?
- nTensify, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4"I find these new MBs with 10 SATA ports and only one IDE port to be ridiculous. Lots of us still have large-capacity, fast IDE drives! There's no reason to throw them away except because motherboard makers refuse to put on an extra $.50 port!"
You're the exact kind of people who are holding back new technologies. Converters for your damned IDE drives cost $5/drive, and there's absolutely NO reason to buy those ridiculously designed IDE drives anymore, so why not just buy SATA? Hell, if you really need the IDE space, buy a damned IDE controller card.
Now if the industry would just become so bold about PS/2. - JayRod, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4That was the first thought that came to my mind as well.
- jacks0n, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2"the upstart chip company's sales are slowing."
For now. They'll come back. They always have in the past.
Plus remember they're starting the reverse multi-threading craze for all the smaller apps. - an0nym0us, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I just hope this won't kill off AMD. No competition = bad for the consumers.
- wtf00, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I'm same boat as you hehe... waiting for price to come down..
- cawpin, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5That's exactly what I was wondering.
- mindwarp, on 10/12/2007, -9/+11They are somewhat mashing the words here: AMD is still making huge strides in market share and profit, just not as much as last quarter. Nothing to see here, move along.
- bigballajrich, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2AHAHAHAHAHAHAH ooo ***** that made my day.
- pkennedy5, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2People need to look at what was said:
52% growth over last years earnings
Lower sales in the desktop market and mobile market. Mobile market wasn't very big to start with, and desktop isn't high profit.
That means 9% lower sales, but mostly from lower profit processors. That is great news. Higher ASP's.
It is far more important to sell server chips. When a company buying servers switches, that is a long term investment. All future servers will be AMD64 as well. People tend to not mix and match. And if they install a 64bit OS and applications? They will never go back to 32bit, the headaches of dealing with compatibility issues would just be too much.
Desktop buyers? They will buy whatever is the fastest or cheapest on the market. With little loyalty. Those are easy to get back. Drop CPU costs, or bring out something everyone wants. - D3koy, on 10/12/2007, -4/+5OK there is only one logical solution "everyone who reads this needs to go buy at least 10 AMD chips!"...no I don't own stock in AMD..... drwii is right AMD is about to come back with the 1,000,000 chip deal they made with Dell and the new socket and huge price cut are about to send sales sky-rocketing! GO AMD!!!
- shaolinpunks, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2halo 2?
isn't 3 due soon? - jsp317, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2you don't have to worry about dx10 for now. Microsoft decided to drop it from vista for now. it will ship with dx9c. smart move Microsoft. i have built allot of PCs this year. all my customers wanted amd's inside. I'm still waiting to build an Intel. people want more bang for there money. amd has done a good job of making fast chips cheaper. they may not always out benchmark Intel but there close and cheaper.
- TheCardinal, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Anyone remember when Intel had to have AMD make the chips for them? :)
- yondenmai, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1ASk any overclockers. Majority will stick with the AMD side. Low price but high overclokcablity.
AMD is best for OC even before their x86-64 bit comes out. and frankly said i don`t think the 64 bit is important at all it didn`t even match with SPARC. - projektmayhem, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1well when conroe is out AMD will have a fight on their hands in the gaming sector, but now DeLL are looking to offer AMD solutions, and AMD have said they will lower prices for the X2 and maybe even the FX-62 by q4 2006... if they do so, i think they'll find sales increasing... a lot :)
- GrendelT, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2yeah, wtf is up with that? "upstart"?
Is Intel considered an "upstart"? Microsoft? What do you have to do to lose that title? -
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