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- elnerdo, on 10/12/2007, -2/+65Wait.. People ACTUALLY BUY THIS STUFF?
Is it possible for someone to be so utterly stupid? - grazwa, on 10/12/2007, -3/+45It will only end when people stop buying diet pills, herbal highs and sexual performance enhancers, said Dave Rand, of Internet security firm Trend Micro.
I cannot see this happening in my lifetime. - Crass22, on 10/12/2007, -2/+42ALL NATURAL HERBAL PENIS ENLARGEMENT PILLS FROM MORACCO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ONLY 178.95$$!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?!?!?! How can people NOT AFFORD to buy this crap.
- VMark, on 10/12/2007, -2/+41It won't be long until 9 out of 10 blog comments are spam as well.
- scott1, on 10/12/2007, -1/+39"Wait.. People ACTUALLY BUY THIS STUFF? "
Yes but very few.
If a spammer sends 100,000 emails and get only one person out of those to buy what they're trying to sell it's good enough for them. E-mails aren't that expensive. - Scatropolis, on 10/12/2007, -1/+32That may be, but gmail gets 99.99% of mine. Love 'em.
- statikuz, on 10/12/2007, -4/+32In other news, 9 out of 10 Digg stories are crap.
- TehChrisMeister, on 10/12/2007, -1/+23VjAGRA_rc_$1,78
CjALiS_ib_$3,00
LEVjTRA_qq_$3,33
You seriously can't pass up these deals, and yes, I just copied and pasted that from some spam I received, haha - gnarbuckets, on 10/12/2007, -1/+22The mail server I manage has BLOCKED about 48,000 spam messages in the last 24 hours. And of the 1,800 "Legitimate" messages, I'd say about 200 of them are spam.
Absolutely disgusting. - Ricapar, on 10/12/2007, -2/+22Dugg down for using MySpace. Dugg down again for the stupid comment.
- BigLug, on 10/12/2007, -1/+18Scottylist said:
SIMPLE SOLUTION: Have 2 e-mails, #1 is your "real" one and #2 is your "spam" one
Unfortunately that only works for a short while. People you give your 'real' one to will start CCing you on all manner of crap. Everyone else who gets that forwards YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS to everyone THEY know. Rinse, repeat. Spammer gets your email. - scottylist, on 10/12/2007, -4/+19SIMPLE SOLUTION: Have 2 e-mails, #1 is your "real" one and #2 is your "spam" one from a free service provider (ie. gmail). You NEVER enter #1 on the internet, and only pass it on verbally or in writing. For internet registrations and forms, etc, you ALWAYS use #2. All SPAM goes to #2, only quality e-mail goes to #1.
- elnerdo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+14Gmail's filter is surprisingly good. My friends pulled a prank on my when I was on vacation, and now my 7700 spams/month are all neatly tucked into my spam box.
- fantasticFlan, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13I feel sorry for all the legitimate penis enlargers now unable to market their wares without being labeled spammers.
- Buelldozer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12As a consultant I manage a lot of email servers for my clients. I don't have a single one running under an %87 SPAM ratio.
It's a mess out here on the Internet. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13No, it will only be when the SMTP protocol is tweaked to allow for proper authentication of the sender.
Whether or not people actually buy these things is completely irrelevant. - aphexcoil, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12I manage an e-mail server for our organization and I can tell you that spam has just gotten completely out of control. Even after blacklisting entire countries (Asia, etc.), we are getting more spam today than ever before. It is like being in a large boat with a huge hole and having only a paper cup to scoop out the excess water with.
I'm disgusted and fed up with it. Users keep coming up to me (and rightfully so) and asking why they're getting so much spam and the only thing I can tell them is that the filters we have in place are keeping them from getting 100 per day instead of the dozen or two they currently receive.
I really wish some of the industry leaders could put their heads together and totally revamp e-mail from the ground up -- the system we have now is just a complete ***** mess. - randomc0de, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9Back in the day instead of email we sent files to other users with cp. Then we sent them over the network with rcp. Then we automated the process. Then we protocolized it into the SMTP and called it email.
I think we need to hit the drawing board again. Right now I'm transferring a file over SFTP from my server at work. Usually I use ssh to do my work remotely from home. The idea of a public-key cryptography system for e-mail strikes me as a really good idea. Basically, we need a new protocol with every piece of mail signed by the sender, to verify authenticity. There are huge problems in designing every new system, but it's doable. I think I'm going to pull out my whiteboard and think. - ZeroMP, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10Where do I post my cc info? Right here? Please let me know because I desperately need to get in on this 3 for 2 special!!
- Jugalator, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Thank god this story didn't link to blog spam for once, or the irony would've caused a small part of Digg to implode.
- Toydriver, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9Maybe it's time for me to start selling "Good Thoughts". For only $1.00 I will think a good thought about you. This week only 3 "Good Thoughts" for only $2.00.
- drewish, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7It's not really a matter of tracking them down, its a matter of cost vs. benefit ratio for a company to do anything about it. Esepcially since no matter how many you track down and destroy, 3 more will pop up the next day... So the decision is to try and spend money fighting these people or spend money fighting the result of these people... In the end it makes more sense to get better @ fighting the result if it isn't going to go away either way...
- LarianLeQuella, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6I just wish all the spammers would die a horrible and painful death.... Not only are they invading my inbox, but all my forums are inundated with them. I've had to set all my forums to Admin validation, and even then, I just totally ignore all registrations until such time as I think a real human being has registered as opposed to this mobile fith that disguises itself as human....
- GreenLantern33, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6The one email that isn't spam is probably a foward of some dumb joke.
- flink405, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6It amazes me that no one can track these spammers down.
- LilRabbitFooFoo, on 08/11/2008, -0/+6scottylist, that works very well UNTIL some idiot on your private list signs up for one of the online address book scams, thus harvesting all of the emails from his address book...including your private email address...ahem.
I've since educated the knucklehead, but there are always new knuckleheads waiting to be duped...and invariably some of them are friends of yours or related to you. ;) - Madh2orat, on 10/12/2007, -4/+10"I get no spam"
----Dvorak - SoCalDissident, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Unfortunately, that doesn't work EVEN IF you never give away your address AND you are lucky enough to not have any friends do the same. If your email address is remotely easy to remember because it resembles a real word, you will eventually fall victim to someone's dictionary spam. My address is a mispelled word, and I started getting spam before *EVER* using it and telling anyone about the address.
For this to work, your non-spam address has to be almsot as secure as a password...
It seems my spam level just jumped over the break again... - ChrisGranger, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Why are we as an internet society tolerating this? Clearly the email protocol is broken if it's so easy for spammers to send us this much unwanted mail...
- ryodoan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I think that the easiest and best way to stop spam is to change the protocol by which it is sent. Have it standardized by some large group, such as IEEE, and have a deadline for companies to phase out the usage of SMTP. Have a service release for Windows users to change it on there, and I know Linux users would probably roll out the update even before microsoft.
- henriquemaia, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4No wonder email is dying. I'm also receiving 9/10 spams.
A solution is becoming imperative. - TexasCanuck, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I'm the sysadmin for a small company of ~30 people. A handful of the email addresses have been around for at least 15 years.
I checked on our mail server today to troubleshoot some connection problems, and noticed that, on average, our mailserver had *** 75 open SMTP sockets A SECOND*** at any given time of the day. Our mailserver was only configured to process 100 simultaneous SMTP connections (I've since increased the limits...) I'm stunned that we were hitting those limits.
We usually accept legitimate emails at a rate of about 1 every 2-5 minutes.
The funny thing is, that despite all the laws that the United States have enacted to prevent spam, the US leads the world in spam volume. - kaniz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I love it when I see 'downloading X of 20 messages', and only 2 of those messages make it to my inbox, and most of the time, the two that do - were spam but just didn't get picked up by my filter.
I've tried the "1 email for real use, 1 for web forms/etc", but all to soon, the real one finds its way onto a CC-list for some chain letter from a friend with lame questions like "whats your favorite food?", then their friends get it on their list, then they forward it around some more. And, chances are - as not all of my friends are terribly tech-savvy, at least 1 person in the chain will have some form of adware/spyware/etc that then lets the email get leaked out.
Next thing I know my penis is too small, I need pain medication and some 14yr old girl in Nigeria is a princess who is some-how linked to me through 16 degrees of separation is asking me for money. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Hate to be your customer since I have clients in Asia. I guess the USA is the entire world to you?
- scabbers, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3If 9 or 10 people in the world are behind 90% of emails being spam, can't we just execute them in a grisly manner? It just seems unlikely that anywhere other than "on the internet" could you piss off that many people and not be killed.
- killdashnine, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3The solution seems pretty straightforward: Give an international police entity like Interpol support to start finding and prosecuting known spammers. Nationally, we should all work to push legislation to do the same in whatever country we live. Laws should not be flexible so as to allow loopholes for this kind of behavior.
We should be realistic about punishment too. There are a lot of victims, not just including those of us who receive spam, but also server hosts and other internet companies who have to carry that load. Penalties should include substantial fines and jail sentences of convicted spammers. Right now, spam is a crime that people are allowed to get away with. Hard time and heavy fees will drop spam by a wide margin. - Odweaver, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2There was an exploit spammers tried using on me, they put the subject line as "re: your resume"
- jerbaker, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Hmm, let's see:
547,903,205 + 501,295,758 = 1,049,198,963
Is there some new math that doesn't add those two numbers up to over a million?
Nothing better than someone issuing a demand to be critical thinkers when they cannot even add. - boaman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Amazingly accurate for me. I just checked good email vs spam for the last 4 months and it was 9.6% good.
- ph3rny, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Only 90%?
- Buelldozer, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I posted above but I'm going to repeat it here 'cuz I feel your pain.
I manage a bunch of email servers for different clients and I don't have a single one whose spam percentage is below %87, most are well above 90%.
It's ridiculous.
ORFtools from Vamsoft makes my clients happier people. Maybe it would work for you?
I don't work for them, I just use their product...A LOT! - leonbev, on 10/12/2007, -0/+29 out of 10 sounds LOW to me. I received about 50 spam messages in my GMail account so far today, and only one of them made it to my Inbox. Even THAT one was junk mail from amazon.com. I'm starting to think that e-mail is more or less useless nowadays, since the signal to noise ratio is far too high.
- misterjangles, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2i like spamarrest.com - you can whitelist your important addresses & domains first. Then anybody not on the list has to do a challenge/response. Some people don't like 'em but it solved my spam problem.
- fmaxwell, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2It will end when (and if) people start tracking down spammers and assassinating them. I'm not advocating (or discouraging) killing spammers -- just stating fact.
"Let's see, should I apply for a job or should I become a spammer and probably be found dead in a pool of blood? Hmmm...." - gnarbuckets, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Not necessarily, cause as spam tripled, legitimate use could've gone up with it.
- LarsHin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Its a shame that Congress hasn't been able to effectively help fight the problem of spam. The CAN-SPAM law lasted for about 2 months until spam reached a new record high.
I guess our only hope lies in service providers figuring out how to block more spam and naive Bayesian filters becoming widely available. - peekingduck, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3skyshock21 hit it right on the head! If mail doesn't travel if the sender cannot be authenticated, it will put the brakes on fast. Other laws such as fraud and insider trading, etc. can be used to prosecute the violators.
- mulling, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I'm a big advocate of using the United States' 'extraordinaory rendition' (where we send people to foreign countries to get their torture on) on the spammers. It would only take a few spammers crying to the press "OMGZ They pulled out my fingernails with rusty pliers!" before we'd see a big drop in spam. Also, it would finally be a use of torture that we could all support.
- SoCalDissident, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Problem is I get to many in my gmail folder it is impossible to scan for any real emails that may be erroniously flagged.
- joe0891, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Yeah, sometimes spammers use cuts of novels to make the emails look like it is legitimate human conversation. I know I get this one spammer who uses paragraphs from these Russian novels about some guy named Ivan.
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