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- bethebryant, on 11/03/2007, -14/+161that will almost hold my porn collection
- inactive, on 11/03/2007, -18/+111I keep my "George Bush Gets it Right" folder on a 1.44Mb Floppy Disk
- NetGX, on 11/03/2007, -2/+87Stupid article needs to source their information correctly they have misquoted seagate as saying 300 terabytes of data when they actually mean 300terabit.
Therefore the actual storage is approx 37TB which is ALOT different. In fact it is 8 times less.
Link to more accurate information http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/03/seagate-continues-to-push-areal-density-boundaries/ - Gizza, on 11/03/2007, -5/+73"t's even funnier considering the fact that we're moving most of our content online so that we don't even use our HDDs to keep our stuff."
Yeah coos when its stored online it just magically floats around outer space. - LordSkywalker, on 11/03/2007, -1/+49**RIAA goes into seizure**
- bianconero, on 11/03/2007, -8/+47Defragging tools? lol, or you could use linux.
- Recuso, on 11/03/2007, -4/+34He's referring to the fact that filesystems under *nix aren't prone to fragmentation (ext2, reiser, etc).
Using a filesystem that doesn't fragment == yay :) - chrismcelligott, on 11/03/2007, -5/+33Statements like that usually come back to bite people in the ass, 512kB memory FTW!
- dagonweb, on 11/03/2007, -1/+25Yes. I like it when RIAA goes into a seizure. I like it when they suffer.
- Zippo, on 11/03/2007, -0/+23I really wish manufacturers would start using binary measurement instead of metric when they market hard drives. The last thing anyone wants is a 300TB hard drive that, in reality, is only 272.85 TiB - 27.15 tebibytes in difference, which is quite a lot if you think of it.
What's worse is how confusing this is to the non-savvy. RAM is measured in binary, and CDs are too. But a DVD's capacity is measured in metric, as is flash memory. - Cyber_Akuma, on 11/03/2007, -2/+24Idavid, that reminds me of my first computer:
December 12, 1995:
"Damn! Look at this thing! Its got a 75mhz Pentium when everyone else has a 33-66mhz DX, a 1gig harddrive when everyone else has 200-400 megs, 8megs of ram when everyone else has 2 or sometimes 4, a 4x cd-rom when everyone else either has a 2x or none, and a 14k modem when everyone else has a 9k. It even has a sound card so I can listen to music! Im never going to need all this power, its way above every program's recommended specs and the harddrive will never get full! I can download an entire meg from the internet in about 10 minutes!"
December 12, 2006:
*Downloads a 1.5 gig demo in 20 minutes onto his Xbox360 Game Console just for the hell of it while wishing the thing had at least a 80-100gig drive instead of this extremely tiny 20gig*
I can see it now:
December 12, 2016:
"Argh, not enough space to install Quake 8 OR Final Fantasy 25, damn this tiny 5 Petabyte harddrive. I spent almost an hour downloading this 300gig Half Life 6 demo too." - tuxthepenguin, on 11/03/2007, -3/+24I'm just so hesitant to believe this. 300TB? assuming your comparing that to lets say a 750GB hard drive that's a 400x increase in only 3 years, hell I'll even say 4 years since Dec. 31 2010 is still 2010. It's not following Moore's Law ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moore%27s_law ) and companies always promise "new incredible breakthroughs in storage/speed technology" ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holographic_storage ) that are always "just around the corner" but never seem to make it to the market. Don't get me wrong we WILL see a 300TB hard drive I'm just not sure as soon as 2010.
But hey if I'm wrong, then call me out on it in 3-4 years, I'm sure it would be a great laugh. - borninda818, on 11/03/2007, -2/+23sure
*bookmarks page + saves screenshot - Takteek, on 10/12/2007, -1/+20Aww darn it failed.... well, there goes the library of congress!
- Recuso, on 10/12/2007, -3/+22Moore's law relates to transistors in an intergrated circuit. Hard drives store data magnetically on a disk -- they don't use transistors for data storage and an increase in transistor count has no bearing on capacity. There is no correlation. Moore's law is not applicable in this scenario. Using your logic (applying Moore's law to hard drive storage) we'd have not advanced much from 10MB Hard drives in 95'.
Honestly I'm not all too surprised. Have you seen the immense growth in storage space and drop in price associated with hard drives lately? Four years ago a 750GB hard drive for $300 would have been considered a pipe dream. Now it's the norm. - jake13jake, on 10/12/2007, -0/+17Imagine the headlines....
December 22nd, 2013: Hard drive containing the entire history of digital media contributed by members of the RIAA stolen, pirate distributions being sold for 99 cents available on the pirate ship anchored off the mid-atlantic rift. - FLAGEL, on 10/12/2007, -3/+19By 2010 everyone (except Windows-users probably) will be using ZFS. Defrag, lol, last millennium called and wanted its file systems back (it's funny because it's true). :D
- oskite, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12I'm holding out for petabytes.
- xobecide, on 10/12/2007, -21/+33Not everyone has a gay collection as large as yours 88mph. Some people actually prefer music or real movies to use up space on their hard drives.
And some people like me reserve a small folder for Mary Carrey's Carried Away. - ICSU, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11That's because the article is inaccurate. It's 300 terabit.
- netferret, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11At least we will be able to install a future version of Windows and Office just about.
- shrewduser, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12"**RIAA goes into seizure**"
only because they can't wait to sue someone for more money than we have on the planet. - estvir, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11First, was it even 640k ? Second, that Bill Gates said that is a 'myth' - or at least the way presented by most people on here it is. In a /. comment recently someone posted the 'real' story, I'll see if I can find it.
- AlphaToxic, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10I personally would prefer a significant speed boost instead of going insane with the volume. A 360GB HDD is indeed enough for *almost* everyone right now, and what do you know, you can always connect another one... and another... and another...
- JernejL, on 10/12/2007, -3/+12use one of linux file systems on the hdd - they need no defrag!
- 4NDr01D, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9where is my iPod that will hold the entire tome of human media
and then update with whatever has been created that day when connected to the net - m3mn0n, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8yeah, imagine every movie, song, tv show and picture collection on a single HDD =P
But for that, I'm pretty sure we'd need at least 5,000 TB
And I'm not so excited about size increases... what would be better is to hear a breakthrough on relibility of HDDs.
What's all that space good for if your drives fail in a couple months/years? - baxtermaddux, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8that is enough storage to hold every album you could ever think of downloading.
or you could strap a video camera onto your forehead, tape every moment of your life, and keep it for storage. - felderado, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7I'm with JernejL
Why is anyone worried about a 300TB hard drive and defragging? NTFS can't go that big. I hope to God nobody puts a Microsoft filesystem on a drive that big.
EXT4, XFS, ZFS -- here we come!
(Not Reiser4. No, God no....) - Kahnza, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6@jhshukla
Solid state means no moving parts - m3mn0n, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6stupid writers not knowing the difference between terabit and terabyte...
300 terabits != 300 TB (or terabytes)... it's roughly 37.5 TB
article is wrong.... you can confirm @ the engadget link above... buried - brickbat, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6I have 2TB on hdd and they are filled. I have less than 70GB free. I also have about 800 DVD-Rs of "data".
- vulcanius, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7Yeah, 300TB will be amazingly useless when were still running at 7200 RPMs... companies need to quit worrying about capacity and worry about response time and bus speeds.
- ApeInago, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I don't want their proprietary drm ridden crap...
- SobyOne, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4What's this about hard drives being moving parts?
My hard drive doesn't move, it just sits there in my computer, on the floor.
Maybe you're confused with "hard" floppies. They moved when you took them out of the computer, but they never really flopped.
And what's this about giga-flops? Wouldn't that hurt the computer? How can a computer have a gigaflop without breaking something?
I mean, I once saw my laptop flop onto the ice when I slipped... and the plastic broke. How can someone have many flops without it breaking?
Computers with moving parts, peh! - jhshukla, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4although moore's law applies to processors, for storage there has been trend of about 1000x exponential increase over 10 years. 4 years gives ~15.85x increase. i.e. about 12TB.
- ldavid, on 10/12/2007, -4/+8That is one massive HDD. That would solve so many of my problems...300 TB? When in the hell could you possibly use all that (unless you plan to download the internet).
Dugg. - mitrovarr, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Nah. With small lenses like most digital cameras have, we're already close to optical limitations. As the CCD pixels get smaller, they gather less light, and eventually you run into absolute physical resolution limits due to diffraction. A 100 megapixel digital camera would require a large, hideously expensive lens made out of exotic materials to prevent those extra pixels from being anything but wasted space. Plus, it'd probably have a pretty long exposure time, an extremely touchy focus, and a poor depth of field no matter what you did.
Besides, what would be the point? So you could print a mural? - Gizza, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5When we start using crystals.
- KingLeo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Maybe in 4 years there will be 50-100 megapixel digi cams and photos will be 150 megabytes? It's just like Intel promising an 80-core microprocessor by 2011... applications of 2011 will require an 80-core MP or they won't run... the more power we give computers, the more power they need (and space).
- gimpieman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4access time better speed up with this drive or else its a lost cause.
- BlackAdderIII, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I'd still fill that up in about three weeks.
On a more realistic note, that much data on one drive? I hope there's MUCH redundancy going on when people are using it. - int3, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4@brickbat
Well maybe you're not most people. - phiv, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I agree, clueless writer. Even if it was 300TB, that is still not hundreds of thousands of conventional DVDs...
1 conventional single layer DVD = 4.5 GB
300 TB = 300 000 GB
300 000 / 4.5 = 66 666 DVDs
Now imagine that with 300 Terabits! That is 8 times smaller....
Sensationalistic stupidity. - Doomhammer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3"...entire library of congress..."
Could have been made more impressive... Like:
"...entire internet of porn..."
:-D - minamhere, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3So how many Libraries of Cong... Oh wait.
- mscman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I remember our first computer... The sales guy told us that it would take FOREVER to fill our 1.4 GB hard drive. At the time, he was right, and it lasted us a good few years. Now? Give me 30 minutes.
- 6dust, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3"1TB drives have been around for years."
Actually, that link points to an external box that holds multiple drives in a RAID array. Yes, it's a total of one terabyte, but that's not in a single drive. Single drive, one-terabyte products are not on the market yet. - kitchengeek, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Ten years ago I had about a gig of hard drive space. Today, I have just over 1 TB. In ten years, I expect to have a petabyte of fast storage. I'm perfectly happy to watch compressed DivX movies running between 700 MB and 1.2 GB and listen to 128k MP3s, which means that in ten years I may well have the storage capacity to hold every movie, TV show and song ever recorded. There will be guys in Thailand who will sell drives with all the world's media already stored upon them (never underestimate the bandwidth of a backpack full of holographic drives in your carry-on luggage).
And there will be no effective way to police it.
Everyone who works in Big Media -- publishing, the record industry, movies, TV, etc., or sells DVDs, books, or other physical media objects -- should think about getting their electrician's ticket or go in for a plumbing apprenticeship. There will be no "adapt or die" within their industries. A select few professional creators will be able to sell their new work, but everyone else is done. Twenty years from now, when having a copy of the entirety of every piece of media ever created will cost a hundred bucks or less, there won't be 2000 channels on satellite and people won't go to the library to borrow books anymore. Nobody will rent The Da Vinci Code.
And fifty years from now, people will wonder how it was ever possible that an actor could be paid $25 million to be in a movie, because most new films are created by amateurs and the rest are distributed for free by small studios who recoup their costs through advertising. The YouTube Generation plus rapid and widespread 'piracy' means the end of the 20th Century media distribution model. - badfrog, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6Might need that much to hold Vista and it's patches by 2010!
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