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- notque, on 01/24/2008, -19/+368Anyone want to go back to no shouts?
- Bamborzled, on 01/24/2008, -14/+329Good for you. You all have the same opinions, acting like sheep. No doubt that my opinion will be buried, validating my point that the real "censorship" on Digg is not done by the algorithm, but the users. This meta-article about a Digg article is proof positive that Diggers will do anything to push arbitrary ideas to the front page. Oh, and about the point in your article where the top Diggers leave: Do it. I invite you. You're all too hot-headed for your own good. Digg would be better if the top players just left. It would be an interesting development.
Signed, the unpopular Digger with the unpopular voice. (By the way, this post was initially supposed to be objective; but unfortunately, I just got more and more enraged.) - davidwasman, on 01/24/2008, -6/+223So wait...
Digg attempts to offer non-top diggers an opportunity to get to the front page...and that's a bad thing? - osmaker, on 01/24/2008, -6/+173Yes, ~200 diggers who have been the primary controllers of the front page are at home weeping in their mother's basements after loosing their internet-influencing-1337ness.
I thought Digg was about _the people_ and not just _the 200_, so I say good ridance. - XXXXXXXXXXXXXX, on 01/24/2008, -23/+153***** you, "veterans". No one gives a *****.
- Rhodamine, on 01/24/2008, -6/+126"It took 156 diggs with 33 comments for the article to make it, something it would have taken less than 100 to do a week ago."
Big ***** Deal! - stephant, on 01/24/2008, -0/+111The top diggers are just being babies. They want to control all the content everyone sees and they don't like the idea that the quality of an article, rather than the ideology behind the article, will propel it to the front page. There was an article a few weeks (maybe a month or two) ago on digg (go figure) that noted that about 500 diggers were responsible for like 80% (or something) of the stories that reach the front page. I don't recall the exact details but they were staggering. At that point I realized that digg was more of a propaganda machine than a true social bookmarking site and it appears the founders see it as well. Still, there are so many users the 500 or whatever can't control it all so I don't mind dropping by to see if there is actually anything interesting to read. Just my opinion, but if the power diggers leave, the much more casual users, and there are tons of them, will be much better off since they won't constantly have some ideology rammed down their throats.
So, get to it regulars, bury me as fast as you can. I'll still come by every now and then to post something. The more objective people read the buried comments anyway. That's just what objective people do. - TylerFu, on 01/24/2008, -4/+103Bunch of fan boy nut jobs. Could it be that there are more users on digg now? Maybe it takes a certain percentage of people who view an article and digg it for it to get front page. Is it really a big deal if it takes 60 or my god 80 more people to digg something? I'm kinda regretting wasting the time to even comment on this...
- Ryan0617, on 01/24/2008, -6/+105Why you all whining? Because all you top digg submitters have to work harder to get your articles etc to the front page? Maybe you should give others a chance and see what they have to offer.
- PamalaLauren, on 01/24/2008, -6/+91Seriously this is what you complain about? Whether you make the front page or not? Are you people insane? Who cares? Is this some sort of popularity contest? When you make the front page do you email everyone you know and go "LOOK I MADE IT!" The last thing I look at when reading an article is who submitted it.
- TyroPyro, on 01/24/2008, -1/+78I read this article and it basically says "Top Digg users with huge friend bases can't reliably get their stuff on the front page." Top users this, top users that. Well, so? That's how it should be. I have 2 Digg friends (who never log on anyway), and I have gotten two stories on the front page in the last couple months without really trying... because they were interesting and unique.
- inactive, on 01/24/2008, -36/+106When will digg respond? they are probably working furiously to phrase a response that is completely ambiguous and impossible to decipher.
GOAL: Stimulating further discussion serves their purpose of further increasing traffic. - nerd05, on 01/24/2008, -2/+66Honestly, if I was in the shoes of the creators of Digg, I'd want to change it too. It's become a site full of a bunch of people who are negative and bitch and whine. We don't even really get any positive, intellectual discussion here anymore; just a bunch of immature people posting outlandish and gramatically incorrect statements. Diggers are often complaining about the stupidity of the masses, but if you look at their behavior, these very people are the ones bringing heightened meaning to the word "sheeple."
It's cool for Digg to be a place to share funny, witty stuff. But the pics section is getting a little out of hand, with a lot of utter crap making it to the front page. And it's become less and less of a place for quality news stories, but rather a bunch of random rants about things.
The Digg community needs to become less of a community of chronic complainers, and more do-ers. And the digg admins should really look into making some major changes to the structure of the site. More categories could prove extremely useful (taser section, anyone?). And we seriously need a way to prevent dupe stuff from hitting the front page, or even becoming upcoming. This can sometimes be acceptable for stories, but if it's a picture or a joke or something, it's kind of annoying if it keeps hitting the front page again and again.
Maybe I'm the only one who thinks this, but I have a feeling I'm not alone with my views. - bxblox, on 01/24/2008, -7/+68theres nothing wrong with the algorithm... people just dont like you
- civilizedevil, on 01/24/2008, -0/+59I agree, who submitted the story shouldn't even be a factor in its success... if a story is good its good and will easily receive 200 votes. Too much junk has been reaching the front page lately, I'm sick of seeing some terrible top 10 list by COED Magazine that hits the front page because 100 diggers got a boner from reading the title and dugg it before seeing that it was just 10 pictures of some celebrity bending over outside mcdonalds, slapped together with a misleading title, all just to generate traffic to their stupid crap magazine site.
- Checkerd, on 01/24/2008, -5/+59*Break
Sorry, that was bugging me. - DigDugDigger, on 01/24/2008, -2/+54If the top Diggers leave, what does that mean? It means that others will be given a spotlight they haven't had before. If the big boys switch to Reddit or whoever is cool at the time, there will still be submissions on Digg and Diggers to read them. The world keeps turning.
- JARSInc, on 01/24/2008, -20/+72They should make it so that submitters with few front page stories need fewer diggs, and "power users" will need more diggs to get to the homepage.
- jonxblaze, on 01/24/2008, -30/+81In my opinion, Digg just doesn't care. Even if the top Diggers leave, they will still make their money.
- j4200, on 01/24/2008, -0/+49They're just pissed because digg doesn't work like a popularity contest. Even though they try their hardest to make it so, digg is constantly being tweaked to avoid such a case. This is a good thing. The article is complaining as if they're taking away some power of authority from 'top users'. Who the hell cares. The fact that people are stressing over their stories not hitting front page makes me lose even more faith in mankind.
- SevenTwo, on 01/24/2008, -7/+55Digga please.
- omdseo, on 01/24/2008, -5/+49I do!!!!
- crackedplastic, on 01/24/2008, -0/+44Agreed. LOTS of people complained about the "top diggers" controlling the front page content for many, many years now. So this has changed, giving more opportunity for lesser known diggers. This is a good change.
- inactive, on 01/24/2008, -0/+41I have to admit that it does kinda bother me when I submit a non-duplicate story, and it gets 12 diggs, then the next day I see a "top-user" submit the same story and have 500+ hits within 10 minutes of it being submitted. I have 100+ in my friends list, I submit usually 1 or 2 stories a day, and have never made it to the front page or even on the upcoming page. And it isn't because the stories I submit suck, because I see them appear within 24 hours. I think this change might be a good thing. It isn't like the "top-diggers" won't still be top, but at least other people will have a chance.
- jmpeagle, on 01/24/2008, -3/+42no one cares.....especially since the only way to make your grievances known is to put your article on digg. People claim that they are shooting themselves in the foot yet they obviously aren't if they are still doing it unless you believe they are not motivated by profit.
- dn11, on 01/24/2008, -5/+43/cry... give me a break. you people have such a distorted sense of entitlement. you think the entire internet should operate at your command. if you don't like it go elsewhere - or better yet - go outside and get some much needed oxygen to your brains.
- praisethelard, on 06/06/2008, -0/+38Yeah, these "top users" seem to want to keep the status quo, i.e. them being the "top users".
- inactive, on 01/24/2008, -4/+41Does this mean that life is REALLY unfair? I can't believe it
- inactive, on 01/24/2008, -13/+49It's just making it harder for the average digger to get to the front page, while powerdiggers have hundreds of blind, hollow diggs at their disposal. Supernova or MrBabyMan could submit a story called "Ron Paul Sucks" and it'll get to the front page in minutes. Next they'll start doing it with comments. Only powerdiggers will be allowed to comment more, and we'll have a limited quota based on our stats.
- inactive, on 01/24/2008, -6/+40How so? By joining a circle jerk?
- praisethelard, on 06/06/2008, -2/+33I don't even pay attention to who submitted most articles I click on. Anyways, these guys just seem to validating their very existence by how many diggs they can get.
Or, like you said, they're getting paid. - amsoell, on 04/20/2009, -6/+36Personally, I'm glad that a story can't get to the front page with only 40 votes now. Two Ron Paul stories per day is plenty.
- dBLiSS, on 01/24/2008, -4/+34*cry* *cry* as the community grows in size it now takes more people to digg a submitted article to the front page. boo-hoo.. What a whiny article. Who cares who submits what, great and interesting articles will still make it to the front page, even if it isn't one you've submitted. Get over it.
- boozedrinker, on 01/24/2008, -12/+41Honestly, though, who gives a *****? Digg works, and we are all happy. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
- Picard102, on 01/24/2008, -5/+33Whaaa waaaaaaaa! Buried as lame.
- SonicRush, on 01/24/2008, -3/+30Well that wasn't contradictory....
(actually it was) - banmaster, on 01/24/2008, -1/+27I'm sick of MrBabyMan CONTINUALLY resubmitting stories already in the UPCOMiNG section using the EXACT SAME URL and title and having his stories get front paged instead of the original submitters ones.
- praisethelard, on 06/06/2008, -1/+26No, by ignoring the duplicate warning.
- mrbbad, on 01/24/2008, -2/+27Everyone should have a shot at the front page, and not because they have a network of 90 friends too. Actually, as of late, I've noticed lots more junk on the frontpage of digg. I swear, if I see another "top list" ...
Anyways, I don't know what an alternative solution is...maybe Digg needs to reserve like the top 3 spots on its frontpage for random "growing" articles -- and I do mean RANDOM -- different every load of things getting over X diggs in the last 3 weeks perhaps...
Just shooting in the dark here. The concept of digg is great, but I agree that it needs to mature now and grow; and the further away from buddy-buddy digging ruling the day the better... - Richandler, on 01/24/2008, -1/+23I'm glad to it takes more diggs to reach the front page now.
- metacoola, on 01/24/2008, -3/+25I don't really mind, I've been on digg for a loooong time, although I don't even bother to log in, its just my homepage/news source and with more and more popularity things getting on the front page becomes increasingly easier. I'm kind of sick of all the fluff news people are digging anyways.
- matt.rubin, on 01/24/2008, -1/+2309 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0
- Kronos6948, on 01/24/2008, -1/+23I end up not even looking at my shouts.
- Rhodamine, on 01/24/2008, -4/+25How fast can this story be buried for representing self-absorbed whiners?
- memodude, on 01/24/2008, -1/+20C-C-C-COMBO BRAKER!!!!!
- xerosawyer, on 01/24/2008, -3/+22yeah bro this is being blown a bit out of proportion..
- inactive, on 01/24/2008, -5/+24***brake
I like continuing things. - inactive, on 01/24/2008, -0/+18Bye!
- Burento, on 01/24/2008, -9/+26Bah.. They will release some new IM feature that will allow people to instantly send any submission to all their contact's instant messenger services. It will likely automatically enroll us all in the service and .... they will require an additional 30 votes per story to reach the front page.
That would be about Par for the Digg course. - bonk2k, on 01/24/2008, -1/+18I for one don't know what I'll do without the top diggers. The internet is such a big and scary place, and I don't really trust anyone else to sift through its terrors to find the glimmering nuggets of hope that are Ron Paul stories and youtube videos.
Digg needs diversity, so if I see less of those familiar diggers we've all come to know and cherish, it might actually make me a little happier. You submit a few good stories and suddenly you have legions of diggers at your disposal to turn your ***** into gold. Truthfully, I can't blame the digger, but it just goes to show what an empty process this has become. -
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