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10% of Broadband Users Eat 80% Bandwidth, P2P Not to Blame

gizmodo.com — No, p2p is no longer the single biggest traffic whore, responsible for only 20 percent of total traffic. It's streaming video, like YouTube and Hulu, which is now 50 percent of total traffic. Which explains Comcast's flip on network management and why it's a total smokescreen.

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  • whiteyak41, on 04/23/2008, -3/+131That's all nice and whatnot, but do you actually think Comcast cares about logic?
    • WolverineBlue, on 04/23/2008, -0/+30If they need to be logical to make money, they may just tolerate it.
      • KibibyteBrain, on 04/23/2008, -0/+10But they lose money on streaming video, because then they can't sell your their crashing cable box with the worst PVR software possible recording crappy compressed based on 1980s technology cable service for $100/month. To trust comcast to promote new online media would be like trusting Donald Trump to support virtual gambling.
        Also, couldn't it be more than this? Could it just be that 10% of people account for 80% of time spent on the computer?
      • Wargasmic, on 04/23/2008, -0/+3No, they don't lol. Plenty of assbackwards people make more money than they deserve.
    • kaelyiesta, on 04/23/2008, -0/+9They are indeed shortsighted. But someday this constant 'screw the customers' method is going to bite them in the ass. Seems to me this entire problem could be solved in one simple step. Listening comcast? Here it goes: FIX YOUR ***** TERMS OF SERVICE! Don't claim to sell more than you can ***** offer, dont charge people more than they ***** use, and easiest of all, simply cut off anyone that goes out of their price range consumption use. Its that easy you lying pieces of *****.

      Instead they like to take the approach of offering huge amounts of access and charge a lot for that service, even though they cant come through on their end. In other words, they are being very comcastic.
    • Genma, on 04/23/2008, -0/+2obviously, since they stapled their lips to p2p's ass they clearly know that this information was bound to get out sooner or later. It's all a game of propaganda to them, it's what they do best and sadly most of the time it works. Times are changing though as more people get their news from sources not in their pockets, they will get what's coming to them.
  • crash013, on 04/23/2008, -31/+363............../´¯/)...
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    ...../´¯/..../´¯......
    .././.../..../..../.|_..
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    ***** THE RIAA/MPAA
    • cowsgonemadd3, on 04/23/2008, -48/+4Shame on you!
    • jakobrowning, on 04/23/2008, -12/+26What does that have to do with the article? Did I read it wrong, wasn't the issue with bandwidth? It didn't even mention the RIAA/MPAA
      • macweirdo42, on 04/23/2008, -3/+55No no, you're right, the article had nothing to do with the RIAA/MPAA. Sometimes they just need to be told to go ***** themselves, though.
        • BOFH2, on 04/23/2008, -18/+4In every digg article that has to do with bandwidth, internet, piratebay, demonoid....?
          • luchid, on 04/23/2008, -1/+27Yes.
          • Lyk4n, on 04/23/2008, -10/+2***** Demonoid!
          • brianara3, on 04/23/2008, -0/+3It can also be used in articles not pertaining to the internet at all, as the RIAA/MPAA are just that evil.
          • BOFH2, on 04/24/2008, -1/+2@lyk4n - Why because you can't get registered?
      • camilos007, on 04/23/2008, -9/+22'Cause its cool to blame the RIAA/MPAA for everything. You're flipping burgers for a living? Blame the RIAA/MPAA! You got herpes? Blame the RIAA/MPAA!
      • XeXers, on 04/23/2008, -3/+22Because chances are the RIAA pays Comcast to throttle back the p2p bandwidth.
        • 11oops, on 04/23/2008, -3/+6Citation, or is this just more random undocumented speculation?
        • stubear, on 04/23/2008, -3/+61100ps,

          Do you really need to ask that question? I'd think it's be rather obvious, given the smell of the comment, its source.
          • 11oops, on 04/23/2008, -4/+1No, but I thought I'd give him the benefit of the doubt and the opportunity to defend his statement.
        • darkamster07, on 04/23/2008, -1/+5RIAA/MPAA hate p2p
          comcast throttles p2p

          if they aren't paying them they're at least encouraging it, it's in both of thier financial interests'
    • tomd123, on 04/23/2008, -8/+7This is probably going to be the highest dugg comment that was off topic, ever.
    • TacticalPenguin, on 04/24/2008, -0/+2/Comcast
  • geoken, on 04/23/2008, -1/+130I wish we had ISP's with no vested interest in television. The more mature online television/online video content become (and by extension the less viable cable/sattelite tv becomes), the more these ISP will try to sabotage our ability to watch it.
    • DivisibleByZero, on 04/23/2008, -1/+11Is it the ISPs or the content producers who are sabotaging it more? The ISPs do actually have an understandable reason (they've got all this TV broadcasting equipment that's becoming obsolete), but the studios are just letting an irrational fear of piracy keep them from changing to a new model.

      Let's all agree to spend more time watching hulu so they'll realize that ad-supported online content DOES work,
      • phoomp, on 04/23/2008, -0/+6I'd watch HULU if they'd finally let their ad-supported online content be playable outside the US.
        • DivisibleByZero, on 04/24/2008, -0/+2Most of the ads are geared towards the US market, so I can see why they're a bit hesitant. They seem to have a hard enough time filling the ad-space just for the US at the moment. They show the same commercial 5 times during a show.
          • phoomp, on 04/24/2008, -0/+1Like dropping in ads localized by IP address is difficult?

            No it's more than that. It's the same reason why non-Americans can't purchase TV and movie content through iTunes, which has nothing to do with ads. It seems more like a desire to control who can see what and when. I have no problems watching ads to subsidize viewing a show and until the networks realize that I'll be visiting other sources for my online content distribution.
    • humperdeath, on 04/23/2008, -1/+3What if everyone had a 'SLINGBOX' and used it all the time?
  • wukillabee, on 04/23/2008, -18/+81i download like a gig of pirated material everday

    hip hip hooooooooray
    • Emachine, on 04/23/2008, -3/+69only a gig?
      • sdhar23, on 04/23/2008, -22/+0haha
      • lamiaconfitor, on 04/24/2008, -0/+3with all the free, streaming porn out there, there is no point in using up all that hard drive space. no matter how many raid configurations you have set up...
    • Verdanic, on 04/23/2008, -12/+5300+ last month =/
    • D4CH, on 04/23/2008, -14/+3I got a blueray movie, its 8gigs down in an hour. I love my internet!
    • bbtrev, on 04/23/2008, -3/+39I get calls from my ISP giving me hell for sucking down over 200GB in a month....they LOVE me!
      • Tyr7BE, on 04/23/2008, -3/+6Lucky you get called. I just get charged. And I use about the same amount, which does NOT come cheap.
      • steviebaby, on 04/23/2008, -1/+27Use your neighbour's wireless just for a laugh
        • sarixe, on 04/24/2008, -0/+2watch their faces as they open up the bill... priceless!
    • camilos007, on 04/23/2008, -3/+49Wow, you are so cool. One day, I hope to be as cool as you.
    • Superfreak77, on 04/23/2008, -13/+1me too, download 1.5 gigs a day
      • lonehunter01, on 04/23/2008, -1/+9Only 1.5? I download 1.5 gigs an HOUR! My dad can beat up your dad!
    • lacronicus, on 04/23/2008, -5/+10PSHH, that's nothing. I re-download my entire 73gb media collection *every month.* Why? Because according to them, every song I download costs them money, and I want to cost them a lot of money. Join the Revolution! Re-DL Monthly!
    • bbliss17, on 04/23/2008, -2/+2I download that too if not more then that
    • Katarn, on 04/23/2008, -5/+1I believe you meant "Hip Hop Hooray".
    • zongamin, on 04/24/2008, -0/+1Why? Maybe you should get out more. You'll go blind.
  • scarysnow, on 04/23/2008, -30/+5sounds like Clinton politics
    • halleyscomet, on 04/23/2008, -2/+19WTF Does Clinton have to do with this?

      Oh, I get it, you're one of those pathetic little wankers who can't discuss ANYTHING without finding a way to say "But, but CLINTON!"

      You really should see a psychiatrist about your Clinton fixation. It's a sad, pathetic thing to see.
      • scarysnow, on 04/23/2008, -6/+11i am seeing a therapist about it, it's coming along...but for now, she said passing blame to Clinton helps me cope with daily stress.
      • jstone, on 04/23/2008, -1/+8They're not quite as annoying as the people/spambots that all but claimed Ron Paul could cure cancer.
        • 11oops, on 04/23/2008, -7/+5Thank goodness the Obama craze came along instead. /sarcasm
          • jstone, on 04/23/2008, -4/+3Yeah, actually. Obama has a chance of winning.
    • jnava121, on 04/23/2008, -3/+4agreed Clinton has won 10% of states therefore she is the most qualified to lead the nation. I heard she was giving a speech on campaign finance debt and hiring and firing of staff too...
  • vyasram, on 04/23/2008, -20/+1This happens because people are misinformed that uploads slow down their download speed and they prefer streams of TV episodes instead of P2P because of this belief.
    • wukillabee, on 04/23/2008, -6/+9uploads DO slow down your download speeds, your an idiot..
      • mikephimikephi, on 04/23/2008, -1/+17*you're an idiot
      • edzilla, on 04/23/2008, -3/+7How come native english speakers make this mistake, when we(non native) don't?
        • BOFH2, on 04/23/2008, -6/+5because making generalizations about an entire group of people make you look REAL smart. jackass
        • fantasticFlan, on 04/23/2008, -0/+7Possibly because native speakers contract naturally before they even know about apostrophes.
      • darkamster07, on 04/23/2008, -1/+1just because you use more bandwith dosen't mean you loose speed, if you upload at a good speed and ratio people will seed to you more. more seeds=better speeds moron.
        • Blandyman, on 04/23/2008, -0/+2too much uploading = too much overhead, *****. it becomes a battle between you updating with the tracker and trying to seed to everyone. you have to leave a little bit of room.

          yes, sometimes it'll make it faster to upload more, sometimes too much and it'll ***** you over. but really, its all about balance. woosa *****. woosa...
    • serend, on 04/23/2008, -0/+1talk about misinformed moron.
    • schroeder, on 04/23/2008, -4/+3Starting a netflix movie in 30 seconds > waiting an hour for the torrent to download when you just want to watch a movie.
      • Blandyman, on 04/23/2008, -2/+3Getting my HD movies for free > watching a ***** stream from netflix for $15 a month.
        • Monk22, on 04/23/2008, -2/+1and as we all know morals cant argue with free, or that sweet ass HD picture AMIRITE?
    • Wartz, on 04/24/2008, -0/+1if you start uploading at greater than 85-90% of your upstream bandwidth, it will cut your download speed way down. for example, I can download at 900 KB/s and upload at 125 KB/s. When I set my upload speed to be something faster than 110KB/s, my download speed drops to around 50KB/s. I usually stick with 75-80 so I have a little breathing room to browse, etc while torrenting.
  • Narcism, on 04/23/2008, -4/+8510% of broadband users have a straw that goes alllll the way from their computer into my bandwidth!
    • aznhomig, on 04/23/2008, -2/+30I DRINK your bandwidth, BOOOYYYYY! I drink it up!
    • trotskyist, on 04/24/2008, -0/+1I LEECH YOUR PACKETS.
      I LEECH THEM ALL.
  • FapCommander, on 04/23/2008, -2/+235Well then, they shouldn't advertise it as 'unlimited' then.
    • Pandalume, on 04/23/2008, -18/+3What would you call it?
      • pltnz64, on 04/23/2008, -1/+6umlimited?
      • darkamster07, on 04/23/2008, -0/+13how about you call it whatever the ***** it actually is
      • phoomp, on 04/23/2008, -0/+430GB per Month
        $10 for each additional GB
        • DavidtheDuke, on 04/24/2008, -0/+3It's kind of like those ads where the bitch would say 1# medicine recommended by doctors, till Congress made them stop saying that. I imagine it'll come to a head where ISPs can't say it anymore either. Hell, I don't think anyone downloading 200gbs a month should bitch @ all $10s a GB. That's alot of movies!
    • mangojump, on 04/23/2008, -0/+39limited
    • justoman, on 04/23/2008, -0/+28Don't sell what you can't handle.
      • KingGorilla, on 04/23/2008, -2/+9i can't handle my gas guzzling truck so I sold it
    • TypeEE, on 04/24/2008, -0/+1unlimited trouble and hassle for end users.
    • zongamin, on 04/24/2008, -1/+1Read the Terms and Conditions idiot.
  • CyberSol, on 04/23/2008, -1/+8I wish my WiMax internet through bridgmaxx was more reliable, then maybe I could be part of that 10%.
    Rant: As it is, Id say my internet works about 80%, For $14 you really can't beat the price, compared to the 60 I was paying for cable. But the reliablity and speed suck, even when I have full signal.
    /Rant
  • Timmymna, on 04/23/2008, -4/+12110% of broadband users pay for the extra speed to make use of it, not to just sit and read emails all day
    • CyberSol, on 04/23/2008, -2/+12In the TOS for cableone internet here in the west, you are paying for a privilege of extended speeds. If you abuse that privilege i.e. download more then what they allow you to during peek times they bump you down to standard speeds.
      From their TOS
      "Cable One provisions all customers with up to at least Standard Speeds or higher. Nearly all customers will experience Extended Speeds and remain provisioned at that level. Customers who exceed threshold limits remain at Standard speeds during the enforcement period. The enforcement period begins mid-afternoon and continues until approximately midnight. For example: A "Residential" customer getting extended speeds who consumes 1,347 MB of download bandwidth during the measurement period will automatically change provisioning to Standard Speeds until midnight of that day."
      Screw you cable one, thats why I dumped your sorry ass as soon as I could.
      • Firehed, on 04/23/2008, -0/+18At least they're telling you what the cutoff point is, no matter how random it seems. And 1.3GB during peak hours isn't being too unreasonable, given the fact they're upfront about it.
        • pyrates, on 04/23/2008, -1/+9If you use that much during that time, that averages to about 384 Kbits of continous use. That could be like watching tv or talking on skype, or downloading linux iso's for 9 hours, which some people would do. That is completely unreasonable. I paid for a certain speed. I should get that speed without the isp interfering. If the isp can't handle me doing that, then they shouldn't have sold the plan in the first place. Or they can upgrade their pipes to handle it. Either way, do not sell me something and then take it away.
        • knowitman, on 04/23/2008, -0/+6Since they tell you this upfront, you are in effect paying for the speeds with an agreement that if you hit that peak, then you will be throttled. It's much different from getting cut off with some invisible peak.

          You have the choice to not buy their service. That's the beauty of competition.
          • KMartSheriff, on 04/23/2008, -0/+3That's also the problem. There is no competition.
        • Blandyman, on 04/23/2008, -0/+5Why would you download linux iso's for 9 hours EVERYDAY ?
          I don't see why hitting their peak (which they actually say) and being throttled until midnight (God forbid) is really so horrible.
          But I have BellSouth. Never been throttled and it just keeps getting faster and faster :)
      • bobkingof12vs, on 04/24/2008, -1/+1ill be honest with you, i didnt read your long post
        or the guys three posts down...
    • PigGeneral, on 04/23/2008, -3/+3Where do I sign up?
      An ISP that is upfront about its bandwidth allowances during peak hours? You mean... I would have to set my uncompressed dvd downloads to happen between 12am and 4 pm, as part of a productive provider / consumer relationship? Those dirty dirty evil internet hoarders! How dare they ask me to be courteous about my usage during peak time.
    • endlessoul, on 04/23/2008, -0/+5No, we just sit here and read Digg all day.

      /rimshot
    • thedragon4453, on 04/24/2008, -0/+4Exactly. The really retarded thing is that they are whining and not fixing the problem. I got news for you Comcast, its only going to get worse. More and more people are using video sites, instant video rentals are becoming more and more popular, and so on. No one is just using their connection to read the ny times anymore. I mean, you guys must be living in the same world the RIAA and MPAA are, where everything is the fault of the customer, and not your inability to address the needs of the customer.

      And, to add insult to injury, we've given you tax breaks so you could beef up the infrastructure (since everyone that doesn't have their head jammed completely in their ass could have seen that this internet thing is going to be big), but you've done jack ***** with it, all while raising our rates.

      Internet usage is going to go up. I'd imagine that the 10% are just the more tech savvy people that are able to use all the services available. But that 10% will grow. Get the ***** over it, and start laying some fiber. We know you've got the money, we already gave it to you.
      • bobkingof12vs, on 04/24/2008, -1/+1see reply to the post three posts up...
  • rokinroj, on 04/23/2008, -3/+33It would be interesting to see how much bandwidth goes to online gaming. Between PC games like WOW, and PS2/3, Xbox Live, etc., it must be a decent amount.
    • wukillabee, on 04/23/2008, -8/+2how much bandwidth do they waste actually,, i would really really like to know..
    • drakelord, on 04/23/2008, -2/+24Luckily, games like these only take up between 5kB/s to 20kB/s in most situations, so the total impact isn't actually that bad.
      • scooterbaga, on 04/23/2008, -20/+3Then switch back to dialup... ass.
        • Murdats, on 04/23/2008, -0/+13wtf? did he secretly insult you?
          also, dialup is ~5kB/s so why would someone who games go to dialup when it barely runs anything?
          • scooterbaga, on 04/23/2008, -0/+2Ya, sorry about the negativity… I suck today. Lack of sleep, etc.
        • kryptobs2000, on 04/23/2008, -0/+8not to mention the latency, that's the real killer
      • poonaka, on 04/23/2008, -0/+1Wow has over 10 million subscribers... that's a ***** load of traffic.
        • Dantetheinferno, on 04/24/2008, -0/+2If you ever look at your bandwith usage during the game, it's only like, 5KB/s.
    • Kyrgizion, on 04/23/2008, -1/+22Yeah you'd be pleasantly surprised, online games don't normally hog a whole lot of bandwidth at all. All that's being constantly transmitted to the server are your coordinates which are in fact fairly simple numerical values which won't take up a lot of space.
      • camilos007, on 04/23/2008, -0/+19That makes sense. But its weird that often you see articles talking about how online gaming is sucking up bandwidth. Must be written by non-technical people who think that the graphics have be sent over the network each time the screen moves.
    • ePuck, on 04/23/2008, -0/+3Ya its hardly anything, compared to downloading warez all day
  • amneosis, on 04/23/2008, -2/+40http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareto_principle
  • tierpinho, on 04/23/2008, -6/+8another scam so they can regulate our internet.... great more govt/corporate control!!
    • luchid, on 04/23/2008, -3/+4We NEED regulation to keep companies from throttling P2P / messing with net neutrality. You can't expect free market forces to fix something when there is no free market.
      • Corrosionx, on 04/23/2008, -0/+2Then the solution is not to make the market less free, but more free.
  • wsuvtx, on 04/23/2008, -22/+51I am fairly new to Digg and I am curious. Does anybody here like anything other than Linux and Obama? I like them both as well, but around here there seems to be a very narrow view of the world.
    • sirber, on 04/23/2008, -3/+66New news!!! Linux endorse Obama!

      (oh yeah, feeling the digging up ;) )
    • DeadBabyFloat, on 04/23/2008, -4/+58They're is always OS X and Ron Paul...
    • meruru, on 04/23/2008, -1/+39Everyone also seems to like smoking pot and pirating music/movies
      • winterorange, on 04/23/2008, -1/+5Some of us eat our pot rather than smoke it...please rephrase your statement to include ALL of us Diggers please. Thanks!
      • StephC, on 04/24/2008, -0/+1***** the RIAA/MPAA!
    • CyberSol, on 04/23/2008, -4/+71We like(d) Ron Paul
      Hate 4 chan
      Hate Clinton
      Like people who ask girls to prom
      We are huge fans of a Rick Astley
      Your're doing it wrong, even though it was a triumph from what she said.
      Welcome to digg. Digg what you want to digg. Feel free to go against the crowd. But whatever you do, don't click this link. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBGIQ7ZuuiU
      • ultrafez, on 04/23/2008, -0/+5Ahhh uuiU, how I love you.
      • cquilliam, on 04/23/2008, -0/+18Never gonna give uuiU up, never gonna let you down
      • endlessoul, on 04/23/2008, -0/+6Comment of the week, right there.
      • uhhNo, on 04/23/2008, -0/+1I see what you did there.
      • KingGorilla, on 04/23/2008, -0/+5I clicked on it because you told me not to
      • darkamster07, on 04/23/2008, -1/+6youre a huge fan of rick astley and you also hate 4chan!? you know a huge amount of the ***** you take for granted like rickrolling originated in the chans
        • lacronicus, on 04/23/2008, -1/+3Yep, the chans totally invented Rick Astley.
      • stang4783, on 04/23/2008, -0/+4My roommate just caught me rick rolling myself :(
    • Matteos, on 04/23/2008, -1/+16You forgot Apple.
      • CyberSol, on 04/23/2008, -2/+20damn.
        Apple rules,
        Vista sucks,
        fix the comment system,
        mirror?
      • Murdats, on 04/23/2008, -1/+9why is this on the front page with only x diggs and y comments?

        dupe, original is <link>
      • KMartSheriff, on 04/23/2008, -0/+1***** the RIAA?
        Where's the ASCII art that everyone automatically diggs up?
      • tapeworm77, on 04/24/2008, -0/+1om nom nom fap fap fap nom fap nom fap nom fap fap fap
      • ultrafez, on 04/30/2008, -0/+1OGC
    • proverbs17, on 04/23/2008, -2/+9Well, I like Linux (especially Ubuntu), but I don't like Obama (or Clinton).
      • supreme0armor, on 04/23/2008, -4/+3wait... what about McCain?
        • Darkhacker, on 04/24/2008, -1/+3Nobody likes McCain. That goes without saying.
    • camilos007, on 04/23/2008, -2/+6You forget the Wii and anything Nintendo related.
    • 11oops, on 04/23/2008, -0/+18There's always digg's unconditional love for the RIAA and MPAA. I hear someone from Digg asked the RIAA to prom.
    • JasonMath, on 04/23/2008, -1/+15You forgot our hatred of Tom Cruise and Scientology, and our love of Anonymous.
    • ZenMojo, on 04/23/2008, -1/+2What about the love for pranks and creative marriage proposals? Only to be outdone by pranks that escalate to fake marriage proposals.
    • maxx07, on 04/23/2008, -1/+7Another Hillary/Obama hater here.. Vote Ron Paul
    • knowitman, on 04/23/2008, -2/+5You also fogot that if you belong to a religion, then you are dumb.
    • euvirtual, on 04/23/2008, -0/+8WTH?!? Couldn't you have made that question in a story about, you know... Either Obama or Linux? Why do it in a totally unrelated story?
      • wsuvtx, on 04/23/2008, -0/+1Because everyone was trashing Comcast. I have never seen anyone comment on who they have for an ISP, just who they hate. I was being a little sarcastic, because Obama and anything Linux usually have a lot of love here and Comcast does not.

        So I should ask, if you do not like Comcast who do you have for an ISP.
        • minigamer1896, on 04/24/2008, -0/+1I personally like Fry's ISP service (dialup, but can't beat $5.99/mth), whatever the case, I like Verizon, Wildblue and SpiritOne. And I happen to dislike Comcast and _/HATE/_ Netzero.
    • coleki, on 04/23/2008, -0/+8don't forget our "love to hate" relationship with cracked.com, and top 10 lists.
    • pja7, on 04/23/2008, -0/+3Links to 1 paragraph news an reviews on engadget and gizmodo
    • fearlessfx, on 04/24/2008, -0/+4XKCD
    • ultrafez, on 04/30/2008, -0/+1OGC.
  • NewPunk, on 04/23/2008, -2/+12I love how blogs refer to other blogs for their references. Like blogs are a reliable source of information...
    And everybody knows 89% of statistics are made up on the spot.
    • Matteos, on 04/23/2008, -1/+9And that 90% of statistics can be made to say anything 50% of the time.
      • LuckyASN, on 04/23/2008, -2/+5And anything said 48% of the time is true 72.4% of the time.
    • timlump, on 04/23/2008, -0/+2Reminds me of naked gun- "he only has a 50:50 chance at living, and the doctors say hes only got a 10% chance of that."
    • tonyscha, on 04/23/2008, -2/+1I thought 80% of statistics are made up.. Wait I made that up
    • haylel, on 04/23/2008, -0/+2Yeah but people are 86% more likely to believe something if you put a statistic of some kind in it, even if you made it up.
    • uhhNo, on 04/23/2008, -0/+172% of digg users are addicted to porn
      • Matteos, on 04/23/2008, -0/+1"100% of digg users are addicted to porn."

        There, fixed it for you.
        • antdude, on 04/23/2008, -0/+199.999999999999999% (I am not addicted to porn).
        • kingvik, on 04/24/2008, -0/+1Neither am I, I just really like it. I can stop whenever I want.
    • rowjimmy, on 04/24/2008, -0/+0i see what you did there.
  • SpillReviews, on 04/23/2008, -3/+1480% of the money in the world is controlled by 10% of the population, and 10% of broadband users eat 80% of the bandwidth. Both equations suck, not many ways to fix them though
    • haylel, on 04/23/2008, -0/+2We need Robin Hood.
    • Corrosionx, on 04/23/2008, -0/+1Solution: let's make more money/bandwidth.

      ***** the scarcity mentality.
      • jordn, on 04/24/2008, -0/+1"Lets make more money..."

        inflation much?
        • Corrosionx, on 04/29/2008, -0/+1I meant that as "make more wealth" . Printing more money obviously doesn't create wealth.
    • Sawta, on 04/23/2008, -0/+1What about the other 10% of money in the world?
  • sagat, on 04/23/2008, -1/+56I remember the good ole days when 90% of traffic was email.








    We were emailing porn, music and videos.
    • spiritamx79, on 04/24/2008, -1/+1back in the days of aol4free, and getting on MM lists with a 14.4 baud modem!!

      memories...
  • dunbone, on 04/23/2008, -9/+3I've heard of 80/20 but not 80/10
    • lucasmaximus, on 04/23/2008, -1/+680% of Bandwidth
      10% of Broadband users
      Think about it.
      To put it in terms of Pies .... they aren't 2 different pieces of the same pie, they are two different pieces, each one from a separate pie.

      • mzwaterski, on 04/23/2008, -1/+9One pie (or cake) at the Office party: 10% of the people are the managers and they eat 80% of the pie. The remaining 90% are the employees and they are left to share the crumbs of the remaining 20% of the pie. Poor Milton...
        • lucasmaximus, on 04/23/2008, -1/+4Far better explanation than I. Thankyou
        • jjustin01, on 04/23/2008, -0/+0I'll put strychnine in the guacamole
  • cowsgonemadd3, on 04/23/2008, -4/+6Well I am guilty....
    I watch vids on youtube and metacafe plus I upload videos to both sites. I mise well, I pay 40 bucks a month for my 1mbps dsl line..
    • johnnyblazepw, on 04/23/2008, -0/+1mise well? or might as well heh ;-)
  • mikephimikephi, on 04/23/2008, -2/+36I stand before you as a proud member of that 10%
  • deathtopenguins, on 04/23/2008, -0/+11Too many people are filling up the tubes. People don't understand that there is only so much you can put into these tubes and then whatever else you put in has to get in line.

    ***** you Ted Stevens
    • timlump, on 04/23/2008, -0/+5If only the internet was like a big truck
    • diagonalfish, on 04/23/2008, -0/+4And if you don't understand those tubes can be filled and if they are filled, when you put your message in, it gets in line and its going to be delayed by anyone that puts into that tube enormous amounts of material, enormous amounts of material.
  • olbap, on 04/23/2008, -8/+2So, when are "we the people" going to build our own internet? How hard can it be? Start in one city, one neighborhood and expand out from there. It can be done. I have faith. It is immoral that our access to the Internet is controlled by media companies. We need our own Internet, one that is not controlled by corporations. Who's with me?
    • meruru, on 04/23/2008, -0/+17"We the people" did that, you're using it right now
    • homercles337, on 04/23/2008, -1/+17"We the people" have already built their own internet. The government funded the building of the backbone with your tax dollars and the telecoms get to use it for free. Is that some ***** or is that some *****?
  • gluecode, on 04/23/2008, -5/+4Since yesterday, my dsl connection is barely crawling. AT&T is unable figure out the issue yet. I am sure one of my neighbors is in that 10%.
    • teh_techie, on 04/23/2008, -1/+9DSL is not shared silly... if you said cable - you might be right
      • gluecode, on 04/24/2008, -0/+1Everything is shared at the router, silly.
    • chrispen, on 04/23/2008, -1/+7DSL is not shared as Cable is, check your information first.
      • gluecode, on 04/24/2008, -0/+1Everything is shared at the router, silly. Go back to school.
    • KMartSheriff, on 04/23/2008, -0/+2That's odd. I've been on several different cable connections served by several different cable providers, all at various times of the day and I'm seeing download speeds crawling as well (legit downloads, not p2p stuff). It's only happened in the past few days.
  • bwf93, on 04/23/2008, -1/+3Comcast has the high speed. Shouldn't matter how many people are watching cats on youtube at once.
    • Firehed, on 04/23/2008, -0/+5If they're not smart enough to cache the cats to save themselves a ton of bandwidth costs, it's their own damn fault. And of course, Rick Astley.
    • devinbunker, on 04/24/2008, -0/+0I don't think the problem has to do with Comcast's connections to other networks. Their last-mile connections are usually shared between ~300-400 households, all of which have to share that "high speed". Because of that, ANY sustained data transfer by a customer, even if it is to a Comcast cache or even another customer in the same neighborhood, will necessarily degrade performance for his or her neighbors.

      That's why they love users that have quick bursts of activity (e.g. http) and hate users that just transfer data all day (e.g. bittorrent).
  • aliguana, on 04/23/2008, -1/+55you can't blame one sector of the internet for hogging bandwidth. Plain simple truth is, 10% of people buy "unlimted" bandwidth and 24meg speed because they want to USE it, whether for p2p, video, audio, VNC, chat, running home servers etc, sometimes all at the same time. other people just check their emails twice a day. It's not the fault of the users that they are "hogging bandwidth", they are just using the services that they signed up to their ISP to use. It's like buying a car, then some garage complaining that you're driving too many miles in it - if you're a taxi driver that's what you bought it for!

    These ISPs and telcos need to get their act together, stop whinging about us using services we're paying for, and start fattening the pipes and upgrading the network.
    • BoneheadFarker, on 04/23/2008, -0/+7If you lease a car, the dealer can complain that you are putting too many miles on it. Though at least they tell you up front how many miles you're allowed, unlike ISPs who tell you it's unlimited when you sign up but don't tell you what their definition of "unlimited" is...
      • aliguana, on 04/23/2008, -2/+1ok, it was a crap metaphor, but you got my point :)
    • stealth210, on 04/23/2008, -6/+1Playing devils advocate here. Really, it's more like leasing a car since you are really just leasing bandwidth. With car leases there is usually a mileage limit. So, you could buy a fast car, but if you exceed the mileage limit... well you see where I'm going with this.

      Not that I agree and I do all of the above things you mentioned with my Comcast "unlimited" bandwidth, but just thought I'd throw that in. That said, the mileage limit should be in the contract and the bandwidth should not be called unlimited.
      • tomd123, on 04/23/2008, -0/+3The only difference is that they tell you what the mileage limit is on the leased car. On the internet contract, they don't mention a thing. Tell me the connection there... If it's not on paper, its not legal.
      • darkamster07, on 04/23/2008, -0/+3no, they should just upgrade thier network like they should have done 10 years ago so that all thier lies will be true, i want unlimited
  • x2wenty4x, on 04/23/2008, -0/+29Netflix instant watch sucks up about 800 MB per 1 1/2 hr movie, which can add up quickly.
  • homercles337, on 04/23/2008, -0/+24I can also imagine that a bulk of that http traffic is due to those ***** flash ads that are now videos. Why cant comcast take the fight of defeating net neutrality to these idiots?
    • hifiDesign, on 04/23/2008, -0/+10Not to mention the assloads of spam email (which from what I understand account for the vast majority of internet traffic) and god knows what from zombie PCs... I mean, WTH are these numbers coming from really?
      • bdbr, on 04/23/2008, -0/+1Mail doesn't use HTTP as a transport. Sure, there are web front-ends, but I doubt people are reading through all their spam.
        • krische, on 04/23/2008, -0/+5The whole email message is delivered to the server. Even if the person doesn't read it. So the traffic is still there.
        • hifiDesign, on 04/23/2008, -0/+2Not being sarcastic at all here, but don't they rely on the same tubes for data transmission — with spammers constantly firing off emails for knockoff watches and male enhancement, coupled with vast networks of zombie PCs doing what they do (probably firing off watch and Viagra spam), doesn't that impact throughput for other types of information?
          • rhino369, on 04/23/2008, -0/+1All the spam i get all year doesn't equal one episode of TV I download.
  • wbeavis, on 04/23/2008, -0/+3This principle of a small group utilizing the most from a resource is true all over the place. Less than 10% of my users use up over 80% of the network storage. So what else is new?
  • cliffr39, on 04/23/2008, -1/+4Don't forget all those damned ads that they cram down our throats all over pages nowadays - not only the images, but stupid ass video commercials embedded into the page - that add up on usage.
    • straylight08, on 04/24/2008, -0/+1What, like the ones here on Digg?
  • bshock, on 04/23/2008, -0/+20Dealing with Comcast isn't difficult.

    1) Gather the names of major Comcast executives, shareholders, and their family members.
    2) Connect addresses with the names (zabasearch.com or some other service will probably do)
    3) Mail them something that expresses your personal feelings about their unpleasant behavior.

    Just one question: what's the best way to pack a rotting squirrel so that only the recipient will smell it?
    • StrangeBeast, on 04/23/2008, -0/+2Freeze the squirrel alive and hopefully it will defrost and rot by the time it is received.
      • krische, on 04/23/2008, -0/+4Depending on how far away they are from you, might want to do some express shipping.
    • Anonymous3, on 04/23/2008, -3/+1Get an allergy shot, one side effect is not being able to smell anything.
    • yohnstoppable, on 04/23/2008, -0/+5Somehow trap the scent of the squirrel in bubble wrap. Bubble wrap is too addictive to not pop, so they'll be contributing to their own demise
    • Corrosionx, on 04/23/2008, -0/+3"Mail something"? If you want to hold their feet to the fire, send them a LEGAL NOTICE and watch them squirm.
    • dupswapdrop, on 04/23/2008, -0/+1Fish work better, in the mailbox or by the front door on a long weekend.
    • PeachCobbler, on 04/23/2008, -0/+1Vacuum-seal it.
  • Pishposh30, on 04/23/2008, -0/+60This article is hinting at the larger problem, that 90% of people aren’t using a service they paid for to the fullest.
    • anonydigg, on 04/23/2008, -0/+5That's actually great news. They are subsidizing our downloads. If it wasn't for them, we'd have to pay dedicated prices for access. Do your own research and you will find that it is not cheap, even when bought in bulk from Tier1 providers.
  • scott12087, on 04/23/2008, -0/+3Now they'll just start throttling streaming video traffic.
    • telefunkin, on 04/24/2008, -0/+1like youtube needs more buffer time
  • timlump, on 04/23/2008, -0/+6Only like 20/30 % of the worlds Internet infrastruture's bandwidth is in use, and as far as I know that includes telephones, so ***** them, if they dont like people wasting bandwidth, then they should rent some more, people pay enough for a ***** service.
  • alexander13, on 04/23/2008, -0/+4I have read that phone companies have hard costs of anywhere between $.00004-$.0001 per minute so they make plenty of money yet still charge outrageous cell phone fees and now are wanting to do the same for internet. Can't fault 'em for wanting to increase their profits but we can fight back and tell 'em to suck it and 'leave our internet alone'.
  • megablue, on 04/23/2008, -0/+2Internet enabled applications are using more and more bandwidth. ISPs will throttle everything soon.
  • dannybuoyuk, on 04/23/2008, -0/+1The top 10% of the population probably own 80% of the wealth in the world too (guestimate).

    I don't see the government scrambling to address this inbalance though...
  • rafter, on 04/23/2008, -0/+9For what we pay, maybe they should upgrade there systems and lines so that there isnt a bandwidth problem... Oh wait, but then you can't report your $million profits
  • Thorpe, on 04/23/2008, -0/+2The Internet is evolving. If ISPs can't cope with the increasing bandwidth being used, then they need to do something about it (and I don't mean throttle speeds or charge by the byte). Not just P2P, websites like YouTube but also places like Xbox LIVE Marketplace are the sort of things some people will use on a regular basis.
    • Wkall, on 04/23/2008, -0/+1in a time like this those form YouTube give access to HD videos sheesh. who wants to consume 100:1. we need traffic compression
      • Baffles, on 05/30/2008, -0/+1traffic compression doesnt help much and adds more costs in terms of CPU load and power consumption, things that really do cost money
  • skyz, on 04/23/2008, -0/+1ok i confess i am one of the 10% so bottom line how much is my habit going to cost me long term ?
  • digitallysick, on 04/23/2008, -0/+6I am part of that 10% *high five*
    • tomd123, on 04/23/2008, -4/+0*quickly takes his hand away* why?, because I'm in the top 1%.
    • uhhNo, on 04/23/2008, -0/+2Step 1: Make a script to download and delete files from good servers (1MB/s transfer speed at least)
      Step 2: Run script for a month (2592000 seconds, which gives 2.592 TB/month)
      Step 3: ???
      Step 4: Profit!
  • baconz, on 04/23/2008, -0/+1Every time I see hulu mentioned I think of hufu. The site that used to sell "human flavored" tofu. http://www.damninteresting.com/?p=168 (hufu.com no longer exists)
  • graemee, on 04/23/2008, -0/+4*****

    90% of the bandwidth is over sold.

    You can only use the bandwidth you pay for.
  • ChayesFSS, on 04/23/2008, -0/+3Nice to see that newsgroups are not a concern here :p
    • ePuck, on 04/23/2008, -0/+2Most of the self proclaimed "top 10%" commenting on here: "Look at my leet limewire skillz".
      haha
    • winterorange, on 04/23/2008, -0/+2Yeah I'd like to see any youtube viewer or p2p'er pull down as much as I get from my giganews account every month. People who download a couple gigs a day are so cute! ^-^ Usenet FTW!
  • Johnvanjim, on 04/23/2008, -1/+2Little to no competition = crap expensive service. Case closed.
    • Grooblle, on 04/23/2008, -0/+1.. And suitcase filled with clothes
      Linens and things, I begin things
      People start to flash, 818's, 213's
      313's, B.I.G.
  • SpookyApplePie, on 04/23/2008, -5/+3***** THE RIAA

    ***** THE MPAA!!!!!
    • reggplant, on 04/23/2008, -0/+1Well done thats the 58th time you said one of those lines! Go you!
  • bullhead2007, on 04/23/2008, -0/+2My first thought was what I would expect. 50% of the internet traffic is porn.
  • juusux, on 04/23/2008, -0/+4companies need to stop being greedy, and fork out the money to get faster backbones and faster connections. they're just putting off the inevitable, and avoiding progress.
  • altjeringa, on 04/23/2008, -0/+2Actually there is not reason to regulate bandwidth at all. We tax payers already gave telcos and service providers money to run enough pipe to bring a 40 meg circut to every house in the country. Simply put, we paid for 40 meg circuts, if access providers claim they don't have sufficient bandwidth to support traffic and hence have to shape user traffic, they are simultaneously admitting the they stole 200 million dollars from the US government. This is all bu775|-|1t!
    • laserblazer, on 04/23/2008, -0/+3Stealing money from U.S. taxpayers is quite the cottage industry these days - except by cottage I mean yacht, mansion and factory.
    • ch33sehead, on 04/24/2008, -0/+1200 billion, I believe, was the figure.
  • MyNameIsJoe, on 04/23/2008, -0/+1 P2P could actually solve the problem if users schedule to download their videos during off peak times and watch them later.
  • kyuuball, on 04/23/2008, -0/+1Of all that streaming video, I wonder how much of it violates copyright.
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