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MPAA Is Helping Their Users Pirate Movies!

mpaasucks.notlong.com — MPAA tells readers of their website what clients to use to pirate software and movies. They also tell you the advantages of pirated movies. They include no DRM, no region locking, they are cheaper, and come out before the actual release. Thanks for the tips!

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  • CovardeAnonimo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+103that quote about region-free DVDs likely being pirated copies, someone should tip the MPAA about porn industries practice of releasing region 0 DVDs.
  • forchilli, on 10/12/2007, -13/+86riaa blows
    • Bean945, on 10/12/2007, -2/+46Thanks for saying what everyone was thinking.
    • JoeShmoew, on 10/12/2007, -5/+44RIAA: An organization that sues children.
    • riverone, on 10/12/2007, -20/+15this is not about the RIAA, it's about the MPAA.
    • shinynew, on 10/12/2007, -3/+27captain obvious contributes to the conversation!
    • idonthack, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11...while everyone else yells about something unrelated!
    • Bean945, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Same ***** different name.
  • chaosmachine, on 10/12/2007, -21/+6too bad no one can actually see the site..
  • bixing, on 10/12/2007, -15/+52The definition of 'pirate' is also very vague.

    If you download them and watch them at home, you're fine. They don't like it, of course, but there's not much they can do about it.

    Generally their definition of piracy is those who also share, which is what the lawsuits are about. They won't attempt to sue you if you just download it.

    Honestly, I haven't seen a decent movie in a while. There's maybe 1 or 2 a year that's even worth buying. The rest are typical "eh, I'll rent it and never watch it again" - and honestly, I don't feel like leaving my house to rent it.

    So I just download it. There's not really harm in that.

    Hell, even the ones I copied from Netflix, I haven't even watched 75% of those more than once. Sure glad I didn't buy them.
    • TheAstronomer, on 10/12/2007, -7/+40$$$
      People don't make movies for free.
    • bixing, on 10/12/2007, -31/+9How do I get modded down for that? Haha, since when is digg pro-MPAA?
    • jerbaker, on 10/12/2007, -9/+65Yes, I'm on a campaign to mod down all idiot comments that say copyright infringement is stealing. Once more for the slow people: When you steal something, like a car, a television, a radio, or jewelry, you are depriving the owner of their possession. If you steal a TV from Best Buy they can't sell it, if you steal my jewelry I can't wear it, and if you steal my car I can't drive it. Copyright infringement has taken nothing from anyone.
    • lukas88, on 10/12/2007, -3/+30It is only stealing if you let them convince you it is.

      Not that I need any moral justification, but if i did, I would think of it as promoting a change in the dictatorship that is the MPAA and RIAA. How can that be bad thing?
    • broomett, on 10/12/2007, -15/+30That is typical ***** from you.

      The movies suck, so I have no problem not paying for them.

      If they suck, why do you watch them at all? Is your life so sad that you feel you HAVE to watch movies, even if they suck?

      Seriously, the "If they made better movies people wouldn't pirate" excuse is pretty stupid. "It is HER fault your homor! Wearing that short skirt! I couldn't HELP but rape her."
    • broomett, on 10/12/2007, -32/+12jerbaker...YOU arae a ***** idiot. You can't take YOUR definition of stealing and say it applies to everyone. Stealing is obtainging something that you did not earn in some way. Period.

      Stealing is NOT just about taking someone else's property and therefore depriving them of it. It never has been. That is YOUR person definition. And you are a ***** nobody.
    • Godel, on 10/12/2007, -3/+15@jimmy

      Too many ellipsis (...) make reading your posts ... awkward.
    • masamunecyrus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8Of course, that doesn't mean people are protected on BitTorrent because unless you use a hacked client (in which you'll promptly be blacklisted from whatever tracker you visit), you ARE uploading.
    • spudnic, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Ahh, but if your download to upload ratio is below 1:1 then technically you're harming the torrent rather than helping it, even if you are uploading a little
    • Knoton, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12@broomett
      actually piracy is copyright infringement, not stealing. At least under the letter of the law anyway. And while I do not advocate either copyright infringement or theft, what the MPAA is trying to do is make us believe that copyright infringement is theft. It simply is what it is, not better, and not worse.
    • bixing, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1I never said anything about the movies I copied being bad. That doesn't make any sense. "Yeah, I hate Beaches so much. But I'm gonna copy it."

      I just said I never watch them more than once.

      Scarface, for example. Awesome movie. I just haven't watched it more than once since I copied it.

      Not to mention you don't know if a movie is bad before you watch it. I download it, watch it, if it sucks, I either give it to someone (if it's non DVD-RW), or just overwrite it with something else.

      Go try to act clever somewhere else ;)
    • acceptab1euname, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3@broomett: I actually agree with most of what you've been saying all along; and I try to digg your comments up when I find them. You're wrong about the stealing thing, though. I just pulled my copy of the 8th Edition Black's Law Dictionary off the shelf and this is how it defines the word "steal":

      "Steal, vb. 1. To take (personal property) illegally with the intent to keep it unlawfully. 2. To take (something) by larceny, embezzlement, or false pretenses."

      The guys you reply to may be nobodies, but BLD is not.
    • hukedonfonix, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1@broomett

      *cough*shill*cough*

      When's that paycheck coming in the mail?
    • burke, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Broomett, I'm sorry to say it, but you're a ***** retard.

      The *ACTUAL* *DEFINITION* of theft (according to merriam-webster: http://m-w.com/dictionary/theft ) is:

      the act of stealing; specifically : the felonious taking and removing of personal property with intent to deprive the rightful owner of it.

      So does copyright infringement "deprive the rightful owner of it"? I think not.

      He's not just forcing his own "personal definition" on you.

      By your logic, If I take a picture of some painting in your house, I just stole it. If I tried to sell said picture, I may be infringing on your copyright/etc., but theft it is not.

      Grow up... or find a less karma-damaging job, if you're getting paid to make an ass of yourself.
    • tagor, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@TheAstronomer
      "People don't make movies for free."

      Big names don't make a movie good, either.
  • alphacorvus, on 10/12/2007, -2/+47I like how they say that all-region DVDs are likely pirated. I've got several 100% legitimate all-region DVDs..but they sure as hell weren't released by the MPAA.
    • missflibbles, on 10/12/2007, -25/+5This is the first and last time I will ever defend the **AA.

      They *don't* say all region-free DVDs are pirated. They say if it's region-free, it's highly likely.
    • Endemoniada, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6...and neither did alphacorvus. He said 'all-region', not 'all all-region'.

      Please be so kind as to actually READ the comment before telling him he's wrong.
    • dougmc, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8`I've got several 100% legitimate all-region DVDs'

      Yay for the porn industry!
  • glasgowm, on 10/12/2007, -12/+1Don't post stuff on digg if your website can't handle more than 7 people a day.

    http://cyber-knowledge.net/blog/2006/12/17/mpaa-is-helping-their-users-pirate-movies/
  • mercurysquad, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5http://www.mpaa.org/piracy_IDmaterials.asp

    That page is what the (late) blog entry was apparently talking about.
    It's kinda funny to read their list :P
    • PathDaemon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Looks like the RIAA was engaging in some piracy: this page is veerry similar:

      http://www.riaa.com/News/newsletter/112006.asp
    • repruhsent, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4@PathDaemon:

      Nice link. I especially love how they try to come across as concerned. After all, it's not like they're in this for the money... they're in it because they want us to see the movies in the best possible quality.
  • mikesbaker, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10god damn blog spam
    • manifestdata, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Note to self: HackityHaxHaxed is a newbie (for more than his name)
  • bogaut, on 10/12/2007, -1/+22http://lazytorrents.ytmnd.com/
    • spudnic, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5I think that's the first time I've ever seen a ytmnd link with a positive number of diggs
    • ohgr, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5It can happen
  • glue, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9Do people buy movies they've yet to see? Why would someone waste $20-$30 buying a movie they haven't seen when they can rent it for $4 or see it on TV or download it for $0? Isn't it more likely people will buy a movie if they have the chance to see it first with little (or no) risk? The economics here don't make sense to me. My guess is I'd never pay for most of the junk I've downloaded had the opportunity to get it for nothing not exist.

    Has anybody ever decided to buy a movie after having already downloaded it?
    • joeshlub, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12Yes I've bought a number of movies after downloading them. Requiem for a Dream is a prime example.
    • kuribo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5This is an interesting point. Because the stuff that's generally pirated is very subjective (music, movies) a consumer doesn't know how much value he'll get out of it until he's already watched/listened to it. You might absolutely love a movie, and be willing to pay $100, while your friend hates it and wouldn't pay anything. But at the store, you both have to pay the same amount. If you don't know the value you'll get from something, how can you be expected to decide whether it's worth $15, $20, whatever amount?

      Of course, this only applies to you if you immediately delete and/or purchase everything you download after viewing it once.
    • gharding, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8I've done a lot of pirating, but I still have a fair DVD collection. Sadly, it can't get too big because I have very little room (so 400 XviD movies on my 500gb drive is way more convenient than even 50 DVDs).

      I'm sure there are some thing's I've pirated that I would have bought otherwise but haven't. But I'm not completely stealing everything!
    • repruhsent, on 10/12/2007, -0/+23@gharding:

      This is the FBI. Come out with your hands up.
    • Geekbeard, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5"Do people buy movies they've yet to see? Why would someone waste $20-$30 buying a movie they haven't seen when they can rent it for $4 or see it on TV or download it for $0?"

      Yeah, usually 'cause I feel like it. Though most of the times, when I buy a movie I haven't seen, it's a "previously viewed" one from Rogers or Blockbuster, which is just about $5-10 different from the rental price.
  • gen0, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11Doesn't everybody see what they're trying to pull? At least to me, it appears that they've incorporated their suing strategy into their business plan. This is their way of capitalizing on the "forbidden fruit" principle that people WILL go for the illegal means of downloading content, thus ensuring that the court cases will not end.

    More court cases = more $$$$ that they get from "violators."
    • riverone, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2The MPAA and the RIAA are two different organizations and it is unfair of you to accuse the MPAA of doing something that it isn't, just because the RIAA is doing it. The MPAA doesn't go after individual downloaders, even when they "share" through bittorent. The MPAA only goes after sites that people use to download torrent files, and the trackers themselves. They do not profit from these lawsuits the way the RIAA is profiting from suing individuals.
    • repruhsent, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Of course they're incorporating this into their business plan. The RIAA and SCO have both shown that litigation is a very legitimate and profitable business model, at least in the USA.
  • vash469, on 10/12/2007, -19/+2dont ppl read the articles before digging ppl are digging this when u cant even see it
    • HaxityHaxHaxed, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Someone pasted the text above. Also some people can get through.
    • ideagirl, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1OOPS HaxityHaxHaxed beat me to it : )
    • D3koy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+19y do ppl rite short hand like this when u have all the time u need?
    • kuribo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9@D3koy
      Well you see, people browsing digg are generally very busy. They don't have tons of extra time, they have places to be and things to do.

      Wait...
  • D3koy, on 10/12/2007, -2/+18Anyone with information on suspected video piracy operations is urged to call the MPAA at 1-800-662-6797. Callers who provide information that leads to the arrest and conviction of persons engaged in video piracy may be eligible for a reward. A separate reward will be paid to the first person who provides the location of a pirate video lab. The pirate lab must consist of 10 or more DVD Burner towers at one location used to produce unauthorized copies of MPAA member company motion pictures.

    Information may also be furnished via E-Mail if directed to the email Hotline at the MPAA in Encino, California. Informants may remain anonymous if requested.



    I hear the reward is 200 blank Cd-r and 100 DVD-r plus a Dual-Layer DVD-RW with lightscribe...
    • jer2eydevil88, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11More likely its a waiver saying you committed piracy to find these sources and as long as you pay up now you won't be sued later so long as you stay clean.

      Do you really expect them to reward good people? ***** if they tried that people wouldn't hate them as much and they might actually curb piracy!
    • marshallh, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8So now, pirates know they just need to use 9 instead of 10 DVD burners for copying. Yay for the RIAA's shortsightedness.
    • spudnic, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4It says they'll give a reward for ten or more, not that they wont sue for less
  • LividBlivet, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9"It is no different from stealing another person’s shoes or stereo, except sometimes it can be a lot more damaging."

    Again with the 'infringement is stealing' *****?

    If you (MPAA/RIAA) really think it is 'no different' then why, in the thousands of lawsuits you've filed is stealing or theft never mentioned? I'll tell you why. Because it's ***** and you would be laughed out of court if you equated copyright infringement with theft.
    Repeat it all you want, it does not make it true.

    Enjoy your last lap around the bowl, you won't be missed.
    • spudnic, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7"It is no different from stealing another person’s shoes or stereo, except sometimes it can be a lot more damaging."

      Well, if we go along with the metaphor then when I 'steal' another person's shoes, they still have theirs, and I created my stolen pair for free using zero materials. I really don't see how that is more damaging
  • speaker219, on 10/12/2007, -7/+1http://duggmirror.com
  • jman8888, on 10/12/2007, -13/+2Wanna DDOS The mpaa?
    • SillyDigger, on 10/12/2007, -1/+18Wanna go to jail?
    • elnerdo, on 10/12/2007, -7/+12jman, as of this moment, you are no better than the retarded Christians who think that it's ok to bomb abortion clinics.
    • repruhsent, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12No, that's alright. You go ahead... I've heard the prison cells are really comfortable these days.
    • brasso, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11Why don't you just put them on digg? Thats like ddos deluxe or something. :P
    • DoodlesMcPooh, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5I think he meant doing by all visiting their site at once.
      Not illegal to look at a website.
    • FluffyArmada, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2100k @7 m3! 1 r 31337 h@x04r 1 DdOs 7h0s3 l|_|s0rzorz!

      ... please, just no.
  • Kylem87, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1This looks quite funny, but surely the title should read: "MPAA Is Helping Their Readers Pirate Movies!" I don't think of the MPAA having 'users', and If they do, I'm worried.
  • numba1xclusive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1this site is dead, even with the aforementioned mirrors above.
  • lupinus, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I love the fact that here in Ecuador you can get any pirated DVD for $2, Video Games $2, CDs $1, any program $2. This is all because internet is slow as tar.
    • mdmadph, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2actually, .tar is a quick and convenient way to transport large groups of files all at once.

      *ducks tomatoes*

      seriously, the first 3 times i read that comment I saw ".tar" -- I need to get out more.
  • zed260, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4so mpaa want you to pirate so they can get more ppl too jail for money
  • Mythguy, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Go after them with their own lawsuits.

    The DCMA specifically says that you cannot break copyright or induce or help to break copyright. They are very obviously helping and inducing this. Thats the statute they use to justify suing people so turn it back on them.
    • repruhsent, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Just so you know, it's the DMCA, digital millennium copyright act.
    • computerdude33, on 10/12/2007, -4/+4You have to admit though, DCMA sounds better than DMCA.
  • autoacat, on 10/12/2007, -13/+1Buried, the site was taken down
    • repruhsent, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10Why would you bury it for this reason? The information is all over the comments page. It's still relevant.

      Oh, you're an *****. Nevermind.
    • BETA7, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4dumb reason to burry you moron lol, use the digg mirror....
  • vayav, on 10/12/2007, -0/+16I download. I delete. I like. I buy, I spread the word. I don't like, I move on never to think of it again.
  • jchillerup, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Am I the only one to care about articles actually citing their sources?
  • Tetraca, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5It's like saying "Don't Build a Bomb! Bombs are bad! Materials you should not have are....and you should definitely not mix them together to make one!".
  • darreno, on 10/12/2007, -5/+1Inaccurate. Can't find anything like this on the MPAA site, which makes sense why this author didn't link to the MPAA site. Dugg Down!
    • leffunov, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Can't find anything in this comment that makes me care. Dugg Down!
  • banderbe, on 10/12/2007, -8/+8I can't believe a comment like "riaa blows" has 37 diggs.

    What the ***** is wrong with you people?
    • leffunov, on 10/12/2007, -5/+1shut up, i don't need to pay ***** to extortionists!
    • Nerfdude, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1i think the real problem is that a blog article that doesn't cite its resources made it to the front page, for simply making fun of the mpaa's piracy guide. good one guys, liek letz go steal thingz, tee heez :rolleyes:

      buried as lame
  • frepnog, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1you want to know something? here is a prime example of how the mpaa got a crapload of money out of me. i wanted to see peter jackson's king kong. i downloaded a TS of the movie. i loved it, so i went to the theater and saw it on the big screen. twice. and then downloaded a TC of the movie. and then downloaded the DVD rip of the movie. and then bought the dual disc edition of the movie when it actually came out in stores. and then downloaded a dvd rip of the extended version. and then bought the dvd of the extended version. last night, as a matter of fact, i bought it on hd dvd. and will buy the extended version if it comes out on hd dvd. thanks to downloading, the mpaa (or at least peter jackson) had made, lets see - something like...oh i dont know, over a hundred bucks on me just on one movie. i am SURE that I am not unique.
    • llamapalooza87, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1You're not. I'm sorry to say that I don't have a source on this, but I remember reading somewhere that data indicated P2P music sharing actually had a positive effect on record sales-- people would discover music on P2P networks then go buy the full album after hearing the one song.


      By the way, *AA: if you want to be successful, stop saying these things are "pirated" and the people who distribute them are "pirates." Pirates are COOL. Everyone loves pirates. You're just making it seem like the cool thing to do-- you're encouraging it. Yar.
    • HonoredMule, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Only pirates think pirates are cool...which we are of course. :)
    • burke, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Yarr!
  • trinityrubicon, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1OK, where anywhere in those statements does the MPAA state "Pirate movies"? They're simply stating facts about piracy, contrary to what this idiot believes.
  • MajorGoose, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1@frepnoq
    I hated that movie.
  • mindvise3, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0So, isn't anyone the least bit suspicious of anything the MPAA recommends to download pirated movies? Isn't that kind of like the police telling criminals the easiest places to rob? These are obviously places the MPAA KNOWS about.
  • HonoredMule, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3"Notice the obvious grammar error in their quote? Conclusive proof the MPAA is a gang of morons? I think so."

    Speaking of morons...there was no grammatical error, unless the author counts the French spelling of theater as a spelling mistake and classifies spelling under grammar. The moron theory fits better. I'm all for bashing the MPAA, but "as well all know" the pot doesn't get brownie points for calling the kettle stupid.
    • HaxityHaxHaxed, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1generally are not be available in the DVD format.

      Last time I checked it's generally are not available, not are not be. Nice try though.
    • drlog, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2I was looking for the error as well. Someone with superior grammar skills, please enlighten us!

      Thanks HaxityHaxHaxed, I read straight past that!
    • HonoredMule, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2*sheepish* yep...I missed it too. That one takes a sharp eye. The "as well all know" blunder the author wrote stood out to me though. There lies the danger of spell-check.
    • skymt, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2The grammatical error is in the first sentence.

      "Movies that have yet to be released in theatres, or which are still out in theatres, generally are not *be* available in the DVD format."

      Yes, I missed HHH's comment. Stupid me, digg down.
    • Technopundit, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Reading digg has ruined my spelling and grammer skills for life. I didn't spot it, either.
    • mcraigw, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2
      All your base are belong to us generally are not be available in the DVD format.
  • wounded625, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1arrrrrrrrrrrrrr im a pirate
  • ACoolie, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Don't you mean reader? Because I think we just found the first one!
  • aragami, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1greatest thing i've read all day lol
  • Pignanelli, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2This just in: RIAA Sucks Donkey Dicks...
  • enjourni, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I love it.

    I remember the day I discovered pirated software. It was an article in Macworld Magazine. There was this kid, talking about these "warez" he got off the net. I didn't know what warez was, but the article explained it perfectly. So I searched the net for the term "warez". Bingo-- hundreds of piracy websites, all with free information about where to download stuff. I found a program called Hotline, loaded up a tracker, browsed some sites, and the rest is history.

    Ironic that an article that was supposed to highlight the evils of pirating software actually helped someone (me) do more of it.

    BTW, information is neither good nor bad. It's what you do with it that matters. (Me, I suppose I'll get slapped one day from my addition to free stuff. Oh well.)
  • MrViklund, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Where is the link to this on the MPAA-site? If they can't provide a simple like or a screen shot, this is just BS...
  • Pyroboy1080, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1'Remember the Adage "You Get What You Pay For"' I can't tell you how many times i have seen movies that aren't worth the disc they were burned on. Does this mean to say that the MPAA has fair pricing? because $20 for a movie is an awful price, when i can get a netflix account, burn the movie for a dollar, and then watch it. It seems alot cheaper than going to the store and wasting gas for movies that arent worth it, and then buying a crappy movie. If I get it on netflix, i can see whether it sucks or not. This way it hardly costs me anything.
  • jsp317, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1I have over a hundred store bought DVDs. Have i ever downloaded movie's? I want say. There is one thing i can say. I love to watch them all the time. I have a new list of DVDs I'm gonna buy. I know i like them.
  • intense321, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2As a senior executive for the MPAA, I am deeply disturbed by Digg's total lack of respect for our Terms of Service. If it weren't for us the movies that you are pirating are not be available in the first place. I am not be kidding. I are now be sulking in the corner. You be make me sad.
  • snownskate, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1This reminds me of DARE back in the day explaining the "harmful" effects of marijuana. A buddy of mine said it best: "Ya know, when I was a kid DARE went on and on about the effects of Marijuana. They told me marijuana might give me a sudden hunger, make me sleepy, and would give you a general sense of euphoria. I though to myself, hey, this sounds pretty damn good....so I proceeded to find and smoke some."
  • Alchemeron, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"It is no different from stealing another person’s shoes or stereo, except sometimes it can be a lot more damaging."

    Except, of course, that in those instances the person you steal from no longer has their shoes or stereo but the movie studio still has their original copies of the movie.
  • juliocgrajales, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1It's funny how the rich just will do anything to get richer and keep control of something... everything in this world is here for everyone with boundaries set and changed every single second... so this piracy issue will always be an issue, just like anything else that we can not stop, especially when there are so many double standards in this world.... very vague i know but thats all you're going to get the mpaa owns the rights to my life so I cannot give historical examples but there is nothing in my contract that reads I can not be vague...
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