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- bootfail, on 10/12/2007, -42/+226Hmm, he lives in Arizona. An "alien" craft was probably a couple illegal aliens using a camper shell to cross the border.
"Boo Ese, We scary aliens" - audiowizard, on 10/12/2007, -10/+130Remember UFO only means "Unidentified Flying Object". The term is NOT synonymous with alien.
AND there are MANY US military aircraft that are unidentified to the public. The old SR-71 Blackbird is still the fastest "KNOWN" jet, and that was made in the 60s flying at Mach 3. So to you and I, there are many UFO flying around out there piloted, and nonpiloted, military aircraft. - asif5th, on 10/12/2007, -7/+115Well, just in case they land, I have my bat ready and Tom Cruise in the closet if they are hungry
- audiowizard, on 10/12/2007, -2/+64I was wrong, apparently the X-43A Scramjet is now the fastest known jet, reaching speeds of Mach 9.6. That easily beat the SR-71.
http://www.nasa.gov/missions/research/x43-main.html
The military hasn't made public any of it's high speed aircrafts since the 60s. SR-71 Blackbird was the last.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SR-71_Blackbird
Everything else they're testing and using are UFO to us. - LogicBomB, on 10/12/2007, -6/+48Generally speaking, when we see scary ***** that we can't understand, it's easy to say "otherworldly".
I hope we're not alone but some people over react. - nursejenny, on 10/12/2007, -12/+49He actually said "alien" craft. He said it felt "otherworldly" in his gut. Was it something we can barely understand or just military airplanes?
- Xarou, on 10/12/2007, -15/+51Yay for stupid stereotypes
How about we continue it
The Mexicans didn't see it because they were too lazy and sleeping.
The Jewish people didn't see it because they were too busy hording their money and couldn't buy a TV.
The Irish were too drunk to understand.
The French gave up before it was done.
The list can go on and on, but you are retarded for trying to stereotype all of the Americans as retarded people who don't watch educational stuff. There are plenty of smart people in America. - Nudar, on 10/12/2007, -5/+39"Well, just in case they land, I have my bat ready and Tom Cruise in the closet if they are hungry"
Tom, come out of the closet! - Gir53457, on 10/12/2007, -4/+36"No stereotype needed. All you have to do is ask Americans to read a bus schedule. 80% will be unable to do so properly. Ask them if they believe in ghosts and you'll find that better than 2/3 do. It's not a stereotype, it's reality."
1. Only 20% of Americans use buses, and our schedules for them are written in pain in the ass time charts with no maps.
2. 2/3 of Americans believe in an afterlife. Contrary to digg belief, that does not make you retarded. - DisposableRob, on 10/12/2007, -3/+34" All you have to do is ask Americans to read a bus schedule. 80% will be unable to do so properly. "
I'm not sure what a statistic like that even means. Most Americans drive cars and don't need to read a bus schedule. I'm sure most Americans don't know how to sow wheat or replace a head gasket either. - SerifTheRobot, on 10/12/2007, -6/+31...Music swells and cut to black! Roll credits!
- brundlefly76, on 10/12/2007, -3/+28I am so sick of digg users submitting inaccurate, sensationalist headlines which don't truthfully reflect the target story.
The headline should read:
"Ex-Governor Believes 'Arizona Lights' Was Alien Spacecraft"
He is neither the Governor anymore nor does he claim to profess it as 'real' or have any other evidence, just his impression lacking more information.
That said...I had a similar sighting in the mid 1980's in Concord, NH - a group of 5-6 bright lights spaced impossibly far apart to be on the same craft or any kind of traditional formation but all moving at precisely the same speed. The then-current mayor of Concord as well as many other people admitted to seeing the lights and a vigil followed on a bridge near the area where some people said they saw it on a couple other nights. - Phatt138, on 10/12/2007, -7/+31I'm as skeptical as any, and think that this is as unlikely as any other 'proof' that UFO's [EDIT: visiting alien spacecraft] exist (what, over a period of days, no one bothered to try different night-vision or infrared filters?), and the fact that the government ignores potential alien spacecraft but won't allow people with the wrong kind of hat to board airplanes says to me that someone, somewhere, knows exactly what this is.
That being said, what disturbs -me- is this question: what possible reason could a government agency have for conducting exercises like this over a crowded and (by the 2nd day) expectant populace? Considering that they could certainly stand to be more secretive if the officially unacknowledged craft were 'off the record,' what possible justification could there be for doing something like this in a way that would garner national attention?
If these (and other unexplained) UFO's are NOT the government, I'm concerned. If they ARE, I'm even MORE concerned. - ProximaC, on 10/12/2007, -6/+28I don't doubt that there's other life out there in the cosmos. but I seriously doubt they'd be advanced enough to build ships capable of interstellar travel, be lucky enough to find another planet with life on it out of the bajillions of planets out there, then just fly around with all their lights blinking to scare us.
They'd either be smart enough to stay completely hidden to just observe us, or they'd make contact.
Either way, those are flares not aliens. - Kahnza, on 10/12/2007, -4/+26I hope we make peaceful contact with aliens in my lifetime. That would be badass.
- PleaseJustDie, on 10/12/2007, -9/+30Its possible that there is life on other planets, its possible that such life is also intelligent. Its much more likely that this is an experimental aircraft or experimental technology being tested out of the military. Something that is classified so you get the explanations of "oh its flares" or some such. It may be an Unidentified Flying Object, but personally I think its just something experimental.
If extraterrestrial life came to this planet they would either land and introduce themselves or not want to be seen and observe silently. If they have the technology to make it here and not be spotted by any university astrological programs where they have huge telescopes and some of which have access to images from the Hubble then I would think they have the ability to not be seen by the sheep that inhabit this planet.
IMO, we haven't been contacted by intelligent life from another planet, more than likely someone without intelligence was testing some new technology (maybe wrap a harrier aircraft in some of that experimental material that bends light to make things appear invisible) and then put lights on it so the people doing the experiment could ensure that it truly was not visible. Its perfectly possible and its something the government has admitted they were experimenting/testing with and would also explain the lights and it hovering. With an air force base on the edge of Phoenix and Area 51 (which is filled with experimental air craft of all kinds) not far away I would be willing to lay money down that its just a military experiment. Its also a possible experimental flare, make a flare that can hover for an hour? Then their "Oh its just a flare" could be true. - crawfishsoul, on 10/12/2007, -6/+26Who the hell believes this lying sack of ***** anyway?
From Wikipedia:
During his first term, Symington was the subject of an investigation over his involvement with Southwest Savings and Loan, a failed Phoenix thrift. He was later cleared, and was handilly reelected in 1994.
Later, he was indicted on charges of extortion and making false financial statements, and of bank fraud. He was convicted of bank fraud in 1997. The Arizona state constitution does not allow convicted felons to hold office, so Symington was forced to resign. - marmanukem, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2490% of statistics are made up on the spot.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -18/+36Bull crap.
It was proven to be military flares in the far distance...... - Gir53457, on 10/12/2007, -1/+19You seem to forget that my Governor is the ***** Terminator.
- Ysaric, on 10/12/2007, -5/+19I want to make sure I understand perfectly--
Republicans deny global warming science, but a prominent Republican has now gone public that he may indeed have seen a UFO in 1997. - rsquirrel, on 10/12/2007, -10/+24Flares last for hours and float hundreds of miles? Wow! Where can I get myself some of these flares? Because the ones I have suck by comparison.
- ProximaC, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14Now why would an agnostic pray to an alien? That doesn't make even the tiniest bit of sense. Just because someone refuses to believe in jesus doesn't mean they'd worship a life form from another planet. In fact, their ability to disassociate fact from fairy tales would make them more likely to understand that an alien is simply another form of life, not a "god".
- Gir53457, on 10/12/2007, -5/+17Americans will watch Discovery Channel four HOURS UPON HOURS. The only other channels where we can turn something on and watch it like that is Animal Planet and the History Channel.
- cawpin, on 10/12/2007, -8/+20This is crap. The lights were from flares from Luke AFB during night training, nothing more.
- elev, on 10/12/2007, -3/+14"It would be an awful waste of space"
- serpentor, on 10/12/2007, -5/+16"Airforce pilot, Lt. Col. Ed Jones, came forward in early 2007 claiming responsibility for the drop of leftover flares on the night in question, and claims to be a pilot of one of the four A10s in the squadron that he says launched the flares."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenix_lights#Skepticism - dude199, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12i for one welcome our new alien overlords
- chaosium, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11"OoOo Alien Woman..."
Yet another species you can't score with ;) - Wamzlee, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11I got my spraybottle ready.....its filled with water....because, you know, aliens hate water!!
- chaosium, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12"I can accept the explanation that they were flares dropped in a military training exercise, but can somebody please explain what the hell they were training for?"
War. - markopolo2952, on 10/12/2007, -6/+16Skeptics agree with the USAF explanation that the lights were simply slow falling, long burning flares dropped by an A-10 Warthog aircraft on a training exercise over Luke Air Force Base. Proponents of the spacecraft theory stated that the lights were over the city and not beyond the mountain where the Luke AFB was located. However, detailed analysis of the falling flares shows that they were actually beyond the mountain, as investigators discovered the lights vanished in line with the outline of the mountain. An investigation by Luke AFB itself also came to this conclusion and declared the case solved.[11] More recent investigations have come to the same conclusion.[12]
A video illustrating this explanation was broadcast on a special on Fox Television stations about a year after the event. A copy of the original video was used in coordination with a video shot in the daytime from the exact same location. The two videos were merged into one on a frame by frame basis, so that the landmarks (both in the foreground and background) were always perfectly aligned. This allowed analysis of the lights regarding their apparent height above the mountain, and it was easily seen that the lights vanished in line with the outline of the mountain. Military flares[13][14] such as these can be seen from hundreds of miles with correct environmental conditions.[1] This can explain why the flares were seen from the Nevada state line and Tucson. Later comparisons with known military flare drops were reported on local television stations, showing dramatic similarities between the known military flare drops and the Phoenix Lights[2] -from Wikipedia
STFU ALREADY! - Pilot85, on 10/12/2007, -4/+13here it comes...
I for one welcome our new glowy light V thingy alien overlords. - jonnyeh, on 10/12/2007, -5/+14"Airforce pilot, Lt. Col. Ed Jones, came forward in early 2007 claiming responsibility for the drop of leftover flares on the night in question,[11] and claims to be a pilot of one of the four A10s in the squadron that he says launched the flares."
What more do you freaking want!!?!!? You want to believe in aliens so much, you'll rationalize any excuse. - starcrunchfx, on 10/12/2007, -7/+16The size of the universe is close to infinite. I think through this I can deduce there is other extra terrestrial life in the universe. In fact through this I deduce anything we can imagine exists in the universe.
- iamsjn, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11I live here in the Phoenix Metro Area and I gotta say, that sight was pretty impressive (yes, I saw them). But after seeing the reports, and thinking about what I saw, I would say that the lights were flares. Depending on where you were standing in relation to the "lights" they looked to be in a 'V' formation. Don't think there was anything alien about them.
To mywhitenoise - I can't speak for everyone else but I don't think "outside life' is a joke at all. In fact I believe in it 100%. What I do find somewhat amusing is the idea that that "outside life" is zipping around this abysimal planet in triangles and discs. I just don't think alien life takes up residence here on home turf.
--SjN - an0nymous, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11Not debating the presence of non terrestial life. Of course it exists. The Universe is infinite, it would be utter hubris to think we were alone.
That being said the question is this:
Have their been recent visitations by manned spacecraft?
Why would they come and not make themselves known? The amount of resources required for interstellar travel would be enormous. Why come here?
We don't have unique natural resources. If the mission was diplomatic and cultural, they would make themselves known.
They are definitely not just here to stick things in our poopers. Sorry, drunk rednecks! Maybe you should just pick better drinking partners.
There are no known artifacts, no confirmed interviews by dispassionate and recognized observers.
SO no reason to believe,, though I can see the power of the idea. It seems tailor made to appeal to paranoid schizophrenics. hmmm... - quux, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9@cliffzdude
Shut up, you! We'll have no rational explanations here. Occam can go suck rocks.
We'll have our wild, baseless speculation and we'll like it! Chicken Little is not wrong. The sky is falling, aliens are interested in our colons, and the U.S. government will be a totalitarian regime 5 years from now (adjusted daily).
There. Now don't we all feel better? - brstilson, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10This world-changing event is brought to you by Allstate.
- jspegele, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11"So, either they knew what it was and didn't respond for one reason or another, or they didn't know what it was but saw no reason to respond. Or they didn't know about it at all I suppose"
Nice job, you would make a great investigative reporter. - flippinjeremy, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10The idea of life from other planets/universes is pretty cool to me. I hope to see some tangible contact sometime in my life (assuming they exist.)
- Nedlog23, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10and the other 10% are just made up . . . .
- jerbaker, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11Have you ever asked any agency what something is? Call up today when you see a plane from Luke and ask them what it is. You'll get the same response.
- fluxion, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7maybe they're just sightseeing? that would explain the couple yuppie alien crashes here and there, with their balla status UFO's and fancy designer spacesuits.
- DivisibleByZero, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8I hope we make violent contact with less advanced, oil rich aliens within my lifetime. But that's just because I work for Halliburton.
- Ibanezfoo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8If the aliens come, I am going to deny being associated with the rest of the fodder on this planet. I'll ask them to get me the hell out of here
- cliffzdude, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10Nobody will click on the link, so here it is:
Skeptics agree with the USAF explanation that the lights were simply slow falling, long burning flares dropped by an A-10 Warthog aircraft on a training exercise over Luke Air Force Base. Proponents of the spacecraft theory stated that the lights were over the city and not beyond the mountain where the Luke AFB was located. However, detailed analysis of the falling flares shows that they were actually beyond the mountain, as investigators discovered the lights vanished in line with the outline of the mountain. An investigation by Luke AFB itself also came to this conclusion and declared the case solved.[11] More recent investigations have come to the same conclusion.[12]
A video illustrating this explanation was broadcast on a special on Fox Television stations about a year after the event. A copy of the original video was used in coordination with a video shot in the daytime from the exact same location. The two videos were merged into one on a frame by frame basis, so that the landmarks (both in the foreground and background) were always perfectly aligned. This allowed analysis of the lights regarding their apparent height above the mountain, and it was easily seen that the lights vanished in line with the outline of the mountain. Military flares[13][14] such as these can be seen from hundreds of miles with correct environmental conditions.[1] This can explain why the flares were seen from the Nevada state line and Tucson. Later comparisons with known military flare drops were reported on local television stations, showing dramatic similarities between the known military flare drops and the Phoenix Lights[2]
Airforce pilot, Lt. Col. Ed Jones, came forward in early 2007 claiming responsibility for the drop of leftover flares on the night in question,[11] and claims to be a pilot of one of the four A10s in the squadron that he says launched the flares. - Gir53457, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10I hope to down a Tripod in my life time. That would be badass.
- Skalizar, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7There are and have been many men named Jesus. I can attest to this due to the number of Payroll systems I've supported for companies that do a lot of manual labor...
I'm by no means a religious scholar, is the biblical Jesus documented anywhere else, independently of the bible? - Fhionnlaoch, on 10/12/2007, -5/+12http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenix_Lights#Skepticism
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