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- SevenC, on 06/03/2008, -2/+192They're not yet positive that it's ice. It could be salt.
There's a better article on this @
http://space.newscientist.com/article/dn14044-phoe ...
After the prober does some more digging, it'll be time for us to do another digg. - inkyblue2, on 06/03/2008, -4/+68i found ice in my freezer.
also some waffles. although those are gone now. - Mootabolife, on 06/03/2008, -3/+51Kristi Yamaguchi's parents did.
- casspa, on 06/02/2008, -6/+53 Has anyone created an ice skating robot yet?
- twertyto, on 06/03/2008, -1/+37?? I don't get it. We've known there has been ice on Mars for a while now. What's the white stuff in this Hubble image of Mars?...blow?
http://solarsystem.nasa.gov/multimedia/gallery/Hub ...
There must be some significance to this recent finding but the article doesn't mention anything. - blankoboy, on 06/03/2008, -4/+36What would have been amazing is if the 'super power' countries of the world hadn't been wasting their $$$ on building machines to kill each other. If they had instead focused their efforts on space exploration we'd be way beyond where we are now. Possibly with men already on Mars. It is hard to fathom how much $ has been wasted on military expenditures that could have been used to further technology and science.
- turpenine, on 06/03/2008, -0/+29I don't get jokes either.
can we be pals? - matadata, on 06/03/2008, -2/+24Stop, collaborate and listen...
- inactive, on 06/03/2008, -1/+19buried for inaccuracy
- oheyCWU, on 06/03/2008, -0/+17I thought the poles were CO2 ice, not H20 ice
- waydee, on 06/03/2008, -0/+16daily fail
- Charun, on 06/03/2008, -0/+15I think we were all expecting aliens climbing on the lander. It's a real letdown.
- threemagic, on 06/03/2008, -2/+17What if the martians used the salt to melt the ice?
I blew your mind, didn't I? - DannySpace, on 06/03/2008, -2/+17"Either rock or Ice" - EITHER.
- Nick22, on 06/03/2008, -0/+15Ice doesn't necessarily mean water ice, and its been known that there has been forms of ice on mars for a long time now (just look at any decent photo of mars, you can clearly see polar caps).
Buried for old news/daily mail - Lith25, on 06/03/2008, -1/+15I don't know about you, but this is a hell of a lot more interesting than the 1000 pages of Obama or Ron Paul spam.
- BananaGrabber, on 06/03/2008, -10/+24why can't we get color pictures?
- Ricaud, on 06/03/2008, -2/+16Denver Alien FTW
- bweltondav, on 06/03/2008, -0/+14The Daily Mail is notorious for being a little over-sensational. Don't take everything you read there at face value--it's first and foremost a tabloid.
- Quake120, on 06/03/2008, -2/+14Finding water on another planet doesn't prove anything other than there is water there. What the hell is that person smoking?
- ophello, on 06/03/2008, -2/+13false. You can get 100 b&w photos for the bandwidth of 33 color photos. Color only means three B&W photos of red, green and blue combined. The camera they're using may very well not even take color images, but im not sure.
- Surferess, on 06/02/2008, -9/+20digg the ice, man!
- Samsong, on 06/03/2008, -2/+13At least he can use commas.
- mrbeagle, on 06/03/2008, -0/+11Sheeplike, fyi, the Phoenix does have a full-color camera on board. Do your research.
- Shootfast, on 06/03/2008, -4/+15Short answer: Takes more bandwidth. You can get 100 B&W photos for the bandwidth of 1 Colour photo. When they've finished all the important stuff, they'll start sending colour.
- grimw, on 06/03/2008, -0/+10Actually, they didn't say they found ice. They said they THINK they may have found ice... or a rock. Buried for a sensationalist title.
- Trigononamous, on 06/03/2008, -0/+10No, but I know of one that can Ski Cheese.
- blankoboy, on 06/03/2008, -1/+10Then get me some popcorn to dip in said salt. Mmmmmmmm....martian salt.
- Louis11, on 06/03/2008, -0/+9That's not ice, it's a glitch in the matrix.
- kyle415, on 06/03/2008, -0/+9HIV Positive!
- saleem, on 06/03/2008, -0/+9ohey is on the mark. the poles are dry ice, CO2, we've known that for a while. In 2003, we discovered there is WATER ice beneath 1-3 meters of dry ice.
this is a discovery because it hints at a water/ice table beneath the loose Martian soil. - RioMo, on 06/03/2008, -0/+9This is how it starts... next we'll be visited by big ass robots that can transform into scooters.
- threemagic, on 06/03/2008, -3/+11And you are a bit over sensitive about your poor sense of humor.
See, you wanted to make a joke about the ease of finding ice locally instead of miles away. Good plan. So somewhere in your head you tried to figure out a very obvious place to find ICE. I can see this could be funny. Now I would have said FREEZER, since you know, that's where you get ice. YOU, and your spectacular brilliance, say... fridge...
you lose, sir, good day - ParanoydAndroid, on 06/03/2008, -0/+8You're not correct for the BMP comparison.
The actual image data can be the same size for grayscale vs. color (e.g. both could be 8 bit), but an 8 bit (or fewer) color depth BMP file would require indexed color. With an indexed color BMP, the index itself would be sent within the BMP file, meaning that the file size as a whole (image data, headers, etc ...) would be larger for identical 1,4, or 8 bit color BMPs as compared to grayscale.
/pedantry - inactive, on 06/03/2008, -6/+14no they didn't.
- warrenterr, on 06/03/2008, -2/+10OH I DON'T KNOW, MANY MANY MORE TIMES!!! but great news, I agree.
- bbardlbradd, on 06/03/2008, -1/+9You know... I think you're on to something...
MARS 4 PREZ '08 - MacroDaemon, on 06/03/2008, -0/+8It's sensationalist reporting. What they might have found was ice on mars where the phoenix lander landed. They landed it just off the polar ice caps so they'd have access to the area of ice covered in soil. Although they're rather certain there is ice there, until now (if this turns out to be ice and not salt), there's been no conclusive evidence.
The polar ice caps, however, are visible with a not too expensive backyard telescope. - bbardlbradd, on 06/03/2008, -0/+8That's no matrix... it's a space station...
- ryleyleckie, on 06/03/2008, -0/+8here's betting that he doesn't win...
- threemagic, on 06/03/2008, -0/+8you need help.. seriously.. get some now. you're as fanatical as the muslims you fear.
- Joomal, on 06/03/2008, -0/+7From the MarsPhoenix twitter page:
Phoenix says "I'm sending about 116 Mb of data home each day (over 100 images plus other data), transmitting 128 kbps" - Monkeydew06, on 06/03/2008, -0/+7First off, Pluto was re-instated as a planet, not by definition, but for "traditional purposes". Second off, we have not been to Pluto. Third, even though Pluto is cold, we cannot verify that water exists on that planet, and thus, have not confirmed the existence of ice on Pluto. Fourth, it's "rid" not ride and I assume you meant "on the planet" rather than "of the planet". and Fifth, no, I will not "Guess what".
*pant pant*
< /douchebaggery> - sockpuppets, on 06/03/2008, -2/+9Congratulations on being the asshat that managed to bring politics into yet another unrelated thread.
- derek20cali, on 06/03/2008, -1/+8I don't get it. I thought ice had to be kept in a freezer?
- ophello, on 06/03/2008, -0/+7the point is that we will have a much better idea of the likelihood that life has formed elsewhere in the universe. It will justify more research missions and catalyze the space race.
the implications are far too vast for your tiny brain to comprehend, apparently. - HallEffected, on 06/03/2008, -0/+7NASA recieves a 17 billion dollar annual budget. the smallest budget of any federal agency.
btw stuff like kidney dialysis wouldn't be around if we didn't fund nasa. - bullox, on 06/03/2008, -0/+6Any word on syrup in the fridge?
- 00z003, on 06/03/2008, -0/+6mutated flesh-eating trilobites.
- Danby123, on 06/03/2008, -0/+6Deja Vu
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