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- ddrirc, on 10/12/2007, -8/+25Opera's looking good (especially when you use Opera 9's feature set), but I wouldn't expect any less. :3
I suggest anyone who hasn't tried out Opera 9 (preview) to do so; the rss feeds are the nicest and best integrated I've seen on Windows.
http://labs.opera.com/downloads/
The voice recognition is really cool too, though I have to admit I never really use it unless I'm showing it to someone for the first time. :P - ddrirc, on 10/12/2007, -0/+16@seumas: All you have to do (in Opera 9) is right-click anywhere on the page and then select "Block Content". From there, all you need to do is click whatever you want to go byebye and then click the "Done" button. Hope that helps.
- hub2, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9I've been meaning to check out Opera for a while now, so I've taken the plunge and installed it this evening. First thing I've noticed is some of the excellent little things they've integrated into the browser like IRC chat and RSS reader, also I was pleasantly surprised to find my IE bookmarks automatically loaded. The tab management is also much better than Firefox I've noticed - the ability to click 'new tab' and press the little 'x' to close rather than 'right-click -> close tab' is pretty neat.
I'm sure I'll find just as many niggles as I will some new little cool things... but hey, impressive so far! - ddrirc, on 10/12/2007, -7/+15Ah, forgot to mention it in my post (too late to edit) but the mail client included with Opera is also very nice (I use it instead of the web client Squirrelmail in my case). It's surprisingly unbloated too, which I wouldn't have expected. I didn't even notice that there was a mail client included when I was using Opera 8. There's also a torrent feature in Opera 9, but I just stick to Azureus so I'm not sure how well that works.
- sremick, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7This is my favorite comparison of browsers:
http://www.webdevout.net/security_summary.php
Automatically kept up-to-date too. - Cine, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Looked up that article myself over a year ago or something. An interesting read, yeah, but I don't really feel a wikipedia article deserves a digg.
- cdmarcus, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Spamdies, we're all extremely interested in your habits when researching online. Perhaps you should spend the next few months writing a book about it... we'd all be interested.
- Quarks, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7It still has a major flaw: it's based on IE.
Anyway, nice article, I was looking for a nice comparison of browser features and stuff. - Quarks, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Aaron: How about activex, viruses, spyware/malware and such?
The compatibility argument is losing ground these days. - tazamore, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5It's not lame! The headine has exclamation point! And the description had exclamation point! That's means it's good!
- dosequis, on 10/12/2007, -5/+10It seems that Opera looks good in many comparisons I've seen. Knowing this, I've still been using firefox for the extensions.
- mlingojones, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5No... Wikipedia... articles!!!
digg -- - cdmarcus, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6Maxthon is an IE shell, hardly a browser. It's got the same vulnerabilities as IE. I suggest you try something else.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6That was his point. It's like posting a link to a manual for a 78 Ford pickup. If someone had a 78 Ford pickup and wanted or needed to know something from the manual, they would GO FIND IT.
- foolfromhell, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4 As of about 22:11:22 UTC, this page was linked from digg.com, a high-traffic Internet site.
All prior and subsequent edits are noted in the revision history.
was on there, lol - cdmarcus, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Kickthedonkey, just because it's proprietary doesn't mean it's bad. Opera is a decent browser, better than IE at least. I like Firefox better, but I don't criticize Opera users. IE users are another story though :)
- latca, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6The widgets in Opera 9 should make up for the extensions.
- zach_sp, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6Nice to see that someone recognizes Maxthon. I've always felt that it was a tad faster than everything else.
- cdmarcus, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4This page was created in 2004, and is linked to from every WIkipedia article about a browser. No digg.
- VegaObscura3, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Not very accurate. Said IE doesn't have a lot of things that it does. IE and FireFox are the only two I'm familiar with, so I wouldn't know just how far off it is. No digg.
- cdmarcus, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4If you are familiar with the wikipedia, chadseld, you would know that you can change the articles.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -6/+9I know it was, that was my point. I wouldn't submit anything I found in an encyclopedia to this site.
- elnerdo, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Umm... It's wrong. It says Maxthon has no download managing... I just checked with my Maxthon ( Maxthon's the best ) and it most certainly has download managing. Just it's not on by default
- vixenk, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3kickthedonkey, lighten up some, dude. Some people don't have a 3 button mouse. You can wheel click, click on the "x" on the tab, right click>close tab, use keyboard shortcuts, mouse gestures, or voice navigation in Opera to close tabs, and some people like having that flexibility. And FF does NOT include a RSS aggregator. Live bookmarks give you the RSS headings and a link to the article, but they don't actually read the contents of the RSS feed, which is good for some people but bad for some. As for new tabs, the same goes for them in Opera as closing tabs does.
The thing is, some people LIKE having everything they need straight out of the box. And some people don't. That's why it's so great that there's so many browsers out there now - just about anyone can find the perfect browser to fit them. - sremick, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2There's more to it than UI features too. Which is (unfortunately) all most users seem to care about (and something Microsoft monopolizes on, or tries to, even when they're behind. Case in-point: they will add pop-up blocking and tabs and then try to pass themselves off as as-good-as-Firefox now.)
I never said it was ONLY security. But by emphasizing security strongly, I help restore some balance.
(oh, and supposedly Firefox being open-source should cause a major-increase in the number of security flaws found than if it were closed-source like IE. So just assuming imbalance due to market-share isn't really taking in the whole picture). - spamdies, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5I never consider the info from wiki as solid until i verify it from a trusted source.
- DooDah, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2i agree, this looks slightly wrong in places!!!....remember folks i could go edit it now and post a link to how i'm god no honest look it says so in the wikipedia.....LOLOLOL
- arostad, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Wow good work on that!
- Shizlak, on 10/12/2007, -5/+7I love how in open source "yes" is green and "no" is red, like closed source is inherently evil or bad or something. It doesnt matter how something is made as long as it's made well and gets patched quickly.
- proidiot, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2i am not sure how true some of the data is, but....
it seems that if one were to assume this article was completely true, it wouldn't be very hard to argue that internet explorer is not necessarily a web browser at all in the w3 sense (i.e. partial http support? no xhtml support for >=1.0? only full support of gif images?) - MarkByers, on 10/12/2007, -9/+11If there is anyone out there that hasn't yet tried using anything except the browser that was installed on their computer when they got it, now would be a good time to try one of the newer browser, to see what you are missing out on!
Competition leads to innovation. - jholdaway, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Hey its wikipedia.. has to start some where and grow more accurate as people (like you and me) edit it.
- ThePhilomath, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Try out the tab mix plus extension for firefox, it trumps opera imo.
- proidiot, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2shizlak, your assumption that red inheritly means evil is at its root no different than their presumed assumption that closed source is evil
and besides, is it really a surprise that wikipedia (an encyclopedia rooted in the idea that open source is inheritly better than closed source) would favor open source? - Arramol, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4I used Maxthon for a long time before finally switching to Firefox for security reasons. That said, it took a LOT of extensions to get Firefox up to the same ease of use and functionality. Maxthon's the only browser I've seen that I thought handled RSS feeds well, although I fixed that problem in Firefox with the Sage extension.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+32nd that, nice to see Maxthon get a mention.
- jp10558, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2When did digg add threading? Darn. And how do the digs all work? Can I dig any/all comments, one per story or what?
In any event, extensions seem to be lots of potential trouble for little benefit to me. This is why I like competition in the browser space. For instance I can't see any reason for a toolbar or stumblewhatever. - nograz, on 10/12/2007, -5/+6They shouldn't be, that is unless they change the render engine. Though, from my experiences, most IE shells are merely add-ons, they only add interface features. They don't actually effect the rendering engine, which is what a browser is all about.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"@seumas: All you have to do (in Opera 9) is right-click anywhere on the page and then select "Block Content". From there, all you need to do is click whatever you want to go byebye and then click the "Done" button. Hope that helps."
Yes, but that's clumsy. Give me control over it so I can have a little window pop up and give me a chance to type in my regex filter for whatever item/url/link/content I don't want - just like adblock does. - Thunders, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Again with the exclamation point I don't get it WHY!? A table comparing browsers easily found on wikipedia isn't that exciting. I don't see the need for every thing you submit. Misuse IMO.
- joshduck, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Wikipedia is not meant to favour any side. I agree with shizlak too, the red/green scheme allows someone glancing over the page to see positive and negative features of a each browser. The colours suggest that being closed source is a bad thing.
- newsninja, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Tables are built to display tabular data, and the article features a lot of data which could be classed as such. There are a lot of tables, granted, but there is nothing wrong with using tables correctly, as in this case.
- dosequis, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1extentions are not a necessity, but some of them do come in handy for certain applications, for example the webdeveloper extention..
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1What cdmarcus meant to say was that you can make a trivial, correct change to an article, and then spend the next 13 weeks arguing about it with some random retard with nothing better to do that keeps changing it back.
- PKO17, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I love how people keep saying that "IE shells" are not browsers. They take the IE engine and add better functionality to it; that's certainly sounds like a web browser to me. Are you saying that Firefox, which uses an engine that was originally used by Netscape, is not a web browser?
- curtissthompson, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Also check out there list of portable usb apps:
http://digg.com/software/Wikipedia_s_List_Of_Portable_Applications_For_Your_USB_Drive_ - jholdaway, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1I don't think that RSS should be a feature for Firefox Native on this list. IE7 and Safari do it great.
Yes, Firefox 2.0a1 does do most Atom Feeds. And before you say "Live Bookmarking, Live Bookmarking" It isn't the same thing. Props to Firefox for bringing RSS visability to the masses. Since then other browsers have run with it where Mozilla has stopped. Live Bookmarks and RSS should be two different features on that list. - chadseld, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2What? No CyberDog?
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Don't you dare question the unquestionable wisdom of Wikipedia. It knows all, and isn't at all crap put together by random dumbasses. Prepare to have your comment modded into the seventh ring of hell by our Wikipedia fanboys.
- CarzorStelatis, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Urgh.. I'm a regular contributor to Wikipedia, and this is definitely not one of the better articles. I mean DEATH BY TABLES!!11!1!!11!one was a valid page layout technique circa 1998.
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