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- Zolk, on 10/12/2007, -21/+569Three years later and Vista is only a shadow of its former self.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+273I love the way they went rhough every version of Windows except ME.
- ptcfast2, on 10/12/2007, -9/+231After watching that video I see what we all expected and hoped for...and now I see what we got.
Every time I play that video my PC dies a little inside. - JeffH, on 10/12/2007, -38/+220More like LOL concept videos.
If the actual products were as good as any concepts, we'd have flying cars, GeForce 3 graphics cards that ran Oblivion at 1900x1200 at 60FPS, etc. - retral, on 10/12/2007, -9/+181Indeed. It looks like the video was made by Microsoft, but they've missed their goals by approximately...
..a whole freaking galaxy. - antwan911, on 10/12/2007, -42/+195Looks more like Leopard then Vista
- shiftt, on 10/12/2007, -12/+145In the mid-90's Steve Jobs made a good point when he said that Apple lost, Microsoft won, and now we have no innovation.
Looking at yesterday's top story about the amazing intuitive, "interface-free," touch-driven computer screen you get an idea that the largest companies out there (like Microsoft) are doing way too little to come up with new ideas or concepts. - axiomflash, on 10/12/2007, -24/+142I have been absolutely stoked about Vista for over a year now. Anxiously awaiting it and being one of the only people 'excited' to install it. Now over the last 3 months both my work and work computers have been broken numerous times, always because of software issues directly caused by XP. Then I tried out Vista SP2 for a couple weeks and it was a horrible disappointment.
I bought a Mac this weekend. - Sababaaa, on 10/12/2007, -10/+122I find it halarious that this video, in many ways, looks more feature rich than anything Ive seen from vista. MS dropped the ball on this one, and I'm pretty sure my next laptop will be a mac (although any desktop I own will stay windows for now, as I loves me media center)
Also, did anybody else notice the bookmark to "google.com" at around 2:19? Apparently Microsoft didn't see them as a threat back then :P - Qdub, on 10/12/2007, -3/+111wtf happened?
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+108I don't think "forgotten" is the right word.
- ArcticCelt, on 10/12/2007, -1/+92Its funny, it looked like what we normally see on those ridiculous computer/hacking scenes in Hollywood movies. :)
- mrpink.137, on 10/12/2007, -3/+91They must have forgotten to mention Windows ME.
- estvir, on 10/12/2007, -5/+89Err, this was more than simply a concept video. There was an actual build released @ PDC 2003 and yes, I had a copy of it. This build was huge, I mean, it was the first 'public' build IIRC and soo many people were dying to use it.
Some of it was really impressive while some wasn't but /most/ of the things seen in that video weren't present but the visual style was there and the new explorer shell had some spiffy effects and that.
Performance was good and it was actually kind of stable though explorer crashed pretty often it quickly restarted itself.
Hell, I can barely remember, so long ago though I'm trying to find the DVD again. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -13/+92Sucks to be Microsoft. Or a shareholder. Or a user.
- mrASSMAN, on 10/12/2007, -2/+79Haha, I remember seeing the early videos and being excited.. it's amazing how they managed to lower our expectations so consistently over time.
- Raian, on 10/12/2007, -8/+82This is equivalent to someone showing you an Ad for a Porsche available in 2003... then shipping a Yugo 4 years later.
- jakeadams, on 10/12/2007, -8/+80ha. and they make you pay extra for that.
- hypoh, on 10/12/2007, -4/+74I like how they didn't care to include Windows ME in that flashback. lol...
- epheterson, on 10/12/2007, -10/+79Now that looks useful! That Longhorn concept would have been competition for OSX. Instead, Vista doesn't have much to brag about. Nothing revolutionary except translucent window borders..
- bobbourland, on 10/12/2007, -4/+72This is actually a video of Windows Vista 2010 Pro Ultimate SP2.
- JO3M4N, on 10/12/2007, -4/+63I'd imagine that this was BEFORE they completely dumped the first version of vista, and decided to start completly over?
grrr @ what vista could've been. - foolfromhell, on 10/12/2007, -5/+64it isnt
- m0laria, on 10/12/2007, -20/+74My computer is not a ***** hip-hop music video.
- leobaby, on 10/12/2007, -18/+72So I guess I'm not the only one who thinks vista looks like crap.
- Teemu, on 10/12/2007, -4/+55Wow! And here I was looking at videos of the RC1 release and thinking that it looked good. Why the hell did they abandon that look! That looked as good as MAC OS X!
- tzmguitarist, on 10/12/2007, -8/+57I watched it in silence and still wet myself.
- TheWorm, on 10/12/2007, -9/+54Vista has too much transparency and glossy stuff. Its attempt at apple simplicity looks awefully distracting and annoying. Apple is beating them to all the punches these days.
- jblade, on 10/12/2007, -46/+89Weird, JeffH just repeated what I said, and gets dugg up. Thats the digg effect for you.
- leobaby, on 10/12/2007, -5/+45I'm sorry, but that candy, as visually impressive as it was, really doesn't look all that intensive. I think the most was a spinning logo, ooooh no computer could ever handle a spinning box. Give me a ***** break.
- rotarychainsaw, on 10/12/2007, -4/+42Wow, if this was actually how vista looked, I could maybe overlook the horrible eula stuff and all the DRM whatever.
- L0t3k, on 10/12/2007, -0/+36
You're assuming they actually built anything for ME.
My estimation was that they took 98, threw in some random infinite loops, pulled driver support for everything and changed the boot logo. - FunkyWitDaSysTm, on 10/12/2007, -5/+39dude, i think i had that build! it was in the 3500's i think... maybe 3200's...
i closely watched the developer's builds of longhorn, and then vista. as i watched, all hopes of anything worth my while died more and more with each build. once they dumped longhorn and started over, i knew it was mac time.
i used to be a windows fanboi freak, but nothing better to make you hate windows than windows itself. - ToxicBomber, on 10/12/2007, -12/+44I, for one, welcome our new vaporware overlords.
- estvir, on 10/12/2007, -7/+38Skellener:
There was an actual build given out at PDC 2003, please be quiet. - rgawenda, on 10/12/2007, -5/+35That will ship Oct 2031, and will finally include the Object Oriented Filesystem they promised soon after Wndows NT4
- Dylan16807, on 10/12/2007, -4/+33umm...
Aero is disabled in the Basic edition. - alwaysmc2, on 10/12/2007, -22/+52@ jblade
I'm not so sure about the average IQ of diggers. ^_- - Recluse, on 10/12/2007, -3/+31If you built something that embarrassing, would you?
- Urusai, on 10/12/2007, -4/+31Windows 2.0 is conspicuously absent as well.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -6/+32"coming from the guy with the Mac logo."
As a windows(assuming) user does it not bug you as well that its taken this long to ship Vista? Id be pissed...am pissed - yano, on 10/12/2007, -5/+31Really what did happen? Microsoft always promises one thing but never delivers...
- raid517, on 10/12/2007, -3/+27Vista is a joke - compared to the amount of time we have waited - it seems in the end all MS have done is reinvent the wheel.
I use XP and Vista (although not exclusively) and I switch between them regularly - and I can honestly say that apart from the fancy spinning windows and mediocre special effects - which put bluntly really genuinely are not that impressive at all - it is often very difficult to tell the difference between them.
5 years for some really very lame visual special effects and a slightly improved search capability (both of which were copied concepts from other Operating Systems) I think demonstrates very well a company who has simply abandoned the idea of innovation completely.
Now I know MS loyalists will argue that much of the improvements have gone on behind the scenes in terms of better security and so on - but the question remains still what's in it for the consumer? What will they see that will make this 'upgrade' worth all of the extra investment MS is expecting from them for it? The answer unfortunately (and it seems it is now MS' final answer also) is not very much. - Spikito, on 10/12/2007, -4/+28I shed a tear
- Darthmalt, on 10/12/2007, -0/+24I owned one too and let me say that there was nothing funny about it. Didn't take long for me to wipe ME and install 98se
- rnelsonee, on 10/12/2007, -5/+28And due to the (obviously) very visual nature of the presentation, they didn't seem to highlight Longhorn's most important core feature - WinFS (filesystem). The idea was that you could ascribe arbitrary metadata to any file, and that each file could easily be found with keywords and doctypes. It was supposed to completely eliminate the need for folder structures (no more "C:Docs and SettingsUserDesktop" crap). Yeah, that was scrapped.
And I liked that 'packaging' shot only showing two versions. They now have seven versions of Vista coming out.
But to be fair, they have added features. Like DRM that doesn't allow you to view HD content unless you buy certain monitors from certain manufacturers - then it's okay. - Pepper, on 10/12/2007, -3/+26Half of that OS looks better than Vista does today!
- Berkana, on 10/12/2007, -5/+27@redxii:
Yes, hoards of people were buying windows. Yes, Apple says they'd loose money licensing OS X. The reason is this: When Apple did license MacOS back in the 90's, they lost lots of money. Apple is primarily a hardware business, not a software one. Their software helps sell their hardware. If Apple did license the MacOS, they'd loose money, because the sales of clones would eat into their bottom line, which is hardware.
Notice that OS X versions cost about $129, from Cheetah, to Puma, to Panther, to Tiger, etc. Windows Vista will cost way more than that. Apple can't afford to safely license it's OS until it's market share hits critical mass. (I'd say 30%, but depending on the economist you ask, critical mass marketshare may be as high as 50-55%) Certainly, licensing the OS might help it get to critical mass, but it also risks killing Apple in the mean while. Apple is growing so fast right now without licensing OS X that there is no compelling reason to license; perhaps a few years down the line, licensing OS X will be more profitable than selling Macs, but until then don't expect Apple to try to take Microsoft's business model. What you see instead is that MS is taking Apple's business model, with the XBOX and the Zune--they've ditched licensing "Plays for Sure" and adopted the vertical integration model of iTunes. Why? Because it works when done right. - FunkyWitDaSysTm, on 10/12/2007, -5/+25i'm not lying, you asshat. go through screenshots of the longhorn release builds, and you'll see it was all there. do some damned research before you go all imagining this crap. really.
and as my primary os? yeah, since all i was doing is developing in visual studio and avalon scripts, email, and internet, YEAH.
btw, i said my mac has all the features VISTA promises. not longhorn, or as seen in this video. can't you even READ? -
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