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- tokyopimp, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10AVG, SpyBot, and AdAware and use Firefox.
You'll have a happy, healthy, bloat free system! Screw symantec.
Oh and did I mention, all of these programs are free! - Kriz, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Simple solution: use another anti-virus program.
I personally like Windows Onecare
http://www.windowsonecare.com
and I also have Anti-Vir installed too, just in case
http://www.free-av.com
There's also AVG
http://free.grisoft.com/
ClamWin
http://www.clamwin.com/
NOD32
http://www.eset.com/products/nt.htm
Avast
http://www.avast.com/avast4/home_ed.html
those are all completely and legally free for home computer use. - IceUck, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5More and more it seems to me that the world would be a better place if the technical people (the ones that actually KNOW things and CREATE stuff) had at least a 51% vote in company doings.
As it stands, the business and marketing people (most of whom don't share the two attributes mentioned above) ALWAYS outrank the technical folk, and often regard them as "the help".
I think this could be a reason that free open source software is often surprisingly good. At first I was skeptical about the quality of "volunteer programmers", but now I realize that when engineers produce something without artificial deadlines and pointy-haired-bosses wanting to get their creative input into the product, the results will typically best anything that all but the most enlightened businesses can produce. - dextroz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Symantec's Antivirus products are a joke... and I've used Norton Ghost many many times without any problems on machines running SpyBot.
I can't believe you picked them Google... - einsteindesign, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I used to adore Symantec and Norton. They standardized testing, made a friendly package, and on occasion resurrected a seemingly dead drive.
Those days are long gone. The business model -- subscriptions -- became more important than the software itself. - dirtyfratboy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4They load their software into desktops and steal your money with scare tactics... "Your computer is at high-risk of infection and you'll be screwed... until you pay us."
- ziffel, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I have repaired far more computers by *removing* Symantec products than by installing them. I highly recommend everyone uninstall Symantec products and tell your friends and family to do the same. There are free alternatives that simply work better.
- laughterkillsme, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4lol, ahmerhussain .. mcafee is as bad as norton now.
- MOGua, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4"I have repaired far more computers by *removing* Symantec products than by installing them."
lol.
Google pack should seriously reconsider their anti-virus program of choice. and dump the evil RealPlayer. - bluedragon1981, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Symantec needs to shut their hole up and work on their programs. Right now Antivir Personal is whooping them and not even having to charge a cent! Spybot is an honorable company and has done alright by millions upon millions of PC users everywhere. I think Symantec just wants to push their own software and have consumers use only their spy-ware systems
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Any application that requires internet explorer to be on your system in order for it to work is a poor poor poor excuse for software.
An analogy:
"To install the Acme 5000 Home Security System, it will be necessary to remove all deadbolts and install skeleton key locks on all exterior doors." - wmpp, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Yet another reason to avoid their products. It's incredible to me how miserable their products have grown.
AVG all the way, baby! - damentz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Symantec is a piss sad company, revising your ass hole program once a year is not exactly an efficient way to update your application, update as needed, not by a strict schedule retards. Their lack of pwn is noted by their version numbers (2001, 2002, 2003, etc...). Symantec should burn in hell being the worst antivirus ive ever tried
- Darph.Bobo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3If you use Symantec's Anti-Virus it is your VIRUS.
Have you seen your registry after installing that POS? It would make even Chuck Norris cry and your computer will be easily 10-15% slower.
It's been useless crapware since Peter Norton sold out to Symantec back in the 20th century. - godspeed1074, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I've always thought these major anti-virus companies have been the ones writing viruses all along. the more people are afraid of viruses, the more copies of their products are purchased
- jinexile, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I probably should of held of posting it during non-peak hours, it slipped off the first page rather quickly and silently. We can only hope there are some diligent diggers out there that will take notice.
- crapiolio, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I no longer trust Symantec two years ago, way too many better alternatives around now.
- jknight, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Their continued buyouts of products I like, like 'Partition Magic' and others just continues to spread..........
like a..... virus. ;)
++Digg - tenfingas, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Symantec antivirus is weak. I'm now running Avast! and have had no problems. Norton would always miss files that Avast! picked up.
- uberleo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Here's the info from Symantec:
The recovery point file is fine, but there may be a conflict with spyware detection software (such as Pest
Control or Spybot) causing the recovery point file to become corrupt or appear to be corrupted.
While using the product or Recovery Point Browser, disable all spyware detection software.
They can't hide it. It's in the Symantec Ghost 10 user's guide. - Sirocco, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Norton Utilities and Norton Commander were the ******* during the DOS days. Indispensible tools, without a doubt. But with each passing year I see Symantec ruining their software with the push for more bloat, more "live updating", and more invasive operations to "remind" me to update without offering me any option to disable their harassment.
Slow, inefficient, and overbearing: just like Microsoft. - asdfer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2SpyBot is one of the earliest AntiSpyware software that works. I have stopped using Symantec Anti-whatever for a while now.
- HighTechGeek, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Just yesterday, I got calls from 2 different people who installed Internet Security. It completely trashed their systems in various ways. This is very typical. I see this all the time. Symantec can't even detect and remove their own previous versions of software. The user is supposed to know exactly what versions of NAV were previously installed and download a special removal tool for each one. Yeah, right. If you actually follow their links to their website to troubleshoot, they have pages of instructions that link to other pages filled with technical jargon that terrifies the common user. In Add/Remove Programs their software is listed under L (Live Update, Live Reg, etc), N (Norton Antivirus) and S (Symantec Security Center or whatever). They don't have a clue. Trying to remove, update or repair their software is a nightmare. After uninstalling everything else, Live Update ALWAYS warns "Live Update detected there are still products installed. We recommend that you don't uninstall" You've got to be kidding??!
Even when it's working their software adds several minutes to boot up time and is a resource hog. Their spyware detection is so bad, it's useless. After downloading and installing their software on a new machine, you have to update and reboot 7 or more times and cancel out of all the warning messages that Norton generates to tell you that your software is out of date and you haven't done a full scan and they keep popping up over and over and automatically kick off a full scan while you are trying to update. Also, after every Live Update (even a virus definition update), it ALWAYS requires a reboot. What's up with that??! Get a clue, Symantec! This software is garbage! During Live Update, you are presented with a huge list of ridiculous important sounding required updates. What pompous idiot wrote this stuff. Every other program out there says you have an update, here it is... not Norton... they have to make themselves feel special and list a bunch of bizarre names that nobody cares about. Why can't they just have a single packaged update that you download and install? One of the "fixes" on their website had 7 steps requiring me to copy some obscure file to the desktop, delete hidden directories (following their instructions, the computer would not let me delete these directories as they were in use), write down the path to some important file location for later use and then the final step, step number 7 actually said to uninstall and re-install all Symantec products. I shouldn't be surprised. This is typically their directive. Unfortunately, just uninstalling their product is no easy task. Even after an uninstall, they leave folders and registry entries all over your machine in hidden files. Enough... I despise Symantec. They don't have a clue how to create, develop and package software. I cannot comprehend why they get ranked in the top 2 year after year. - Craig1394, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Sysmantec is bunch of *****' morons. Spybot has helped me fix a lot of computers for a lot of people. I also have real experience to back up the statement that Norton Ghost works just *****' fine with Spybot.
- FaNtAsMa, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Yet another reason to stop using Symantec products.. as if the fact that their anti-virus just plain sucks wasn't enough.
- mistshadow2k4, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Great, wonder how many phone calls I get tomorrow over this, even though I've told people over and over again not to use Symantec ANYTHING.
- nogami, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I removed Ghost after it started bluescreening all of the systems I use at work, conflicts, etc. I switched over to Acronis True Image (which is VASTLY superior in every aspect), and have never looked back.
No more symantec crap on any of my systems now.
N. - Matt2k, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2PETER NORTON WOULD BE ASHAMED.
It's a disgrace what they have done with that mans name. - WocEnasni, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2anybody else find it ironic that Symantec is using bully tactics, and that their product marketing manager's name is Guido? maybe its just me...either way I agree that Symantec is pretty much crap now
- mkultra, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2We've had so many problems at work with Symantec AV. The problem has been that it somehow "caches" SMTP and POP3 settings.
I don't know how many clients have called up because they switched their email and it still won't work. Plus the program is damn huge....and didn't I read earlier today about some sort of "root-kit"???
The Norton of old is long gone and somewhere Peter Norton is shaking his head.
My recommendations: Spybot and CA EZ Antivirus for their low resource footprints. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Such a shame. Symantec can go to hell.
- turgiddahlia, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Maybe Symantec should fix the incompatibilities and this wouldn't be a problem.
- robbh66, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2and this is coming from the ***** who started installing rootkits on customers machines...
- BassCadet, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Peter Norton...making computers slower since 1986!
Never have used Symantec or Norton applications on my computer.
Never have had a virus. - x2dx, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Symantec is a load of *****
Spybot and Microsoft Anti-Spyware (cause it works and does active monitoring without using 100% of my cpu to do it. - Zeush8su, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I used norton once and after seeing how it binds itself really deep into systems and how much of a pain in the ass it is to remove all I can say is screw'em
- EmmEff, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I recommend removing Symantec products due to interference with normal operation of PCs. Their products are bloatware.
- DewayneSmith, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Symantec is afraid of the free security applications.
- freonchill, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2ghost is a harddrive copy program (unless they changed it)
spybot is a spyware finder
unless you really want to scan for spyware while making an image of your HD
i dont see why anything would be a problem in the first place... - jmccorm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1If there is a conflict, I'd rather remove Norton.
- 16x9, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1> lustig wrote: "Or... just get a mac."
Now, now. There's no need to start a flame war. - scotsman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Symantec sucks - I got rid of thier ***** software last year. NOD32 all the way.
- boson3, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Next obvious tactic: Symantec buys Spybot, then shelves it, saying they wanted it for the technology.... wait... Sygate flashback.
Fsck Symantec. Any company that joins Microshaft in using "product authorization" doesn't get my business. "We want money, not customers" - steal_apps01, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Sure you could use Firefox, Adaware, Spybot S & D, Spyware Blaster and AntiVir or AVG.
Or you could use Linux or Buy a Mac, now with intel chips a crappy Mac expiriance now possible. I however grew up in late dos/ early windows (more win 95).
I use Windows XP and Knoppix / Ubuntu Live Cd's on my main desktop and os x on my ibook obiously.
I use everything for windows metioned above and I haven't had I virus since I was 11yrs on my main machine. - trax4321, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I've once had to uninstall some CRAP Nortons package because it was always crashing Windows. What was it called again? Ummm.... oh yeah "Crashguard"
- phobet, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I remember using Norton Utilities back when it deserved it's second name, mainly it was a utility. It competed with Mace Utilities, written by a man called Paul Mace, if I am not mistaken. And they both had utilities valued by people who would understand why you needed Norton & Mace. Anyone remember the Disk Editor? I can't tell you how many jams it had got me out of, mainly from some errant software borking a directory, or a directory file entry.
Now, Norton "Utilities" is geared towards the same morons that click on that interesting attachment that Grandma sent them, and then wonder why that a) Why would Grandma send me such a nasty web site. b) Why are web pages popping up now without any interaction from me?
They also have java script enabled for their email client, and wonder why ten thousand windows open up when they click on their favorite spam message.
The Norton "Utilities" of today had to be programmed by the same people that created that abomination of a browser, Internet Exploiter. They both have the same traits: They are both too deeply embedded in the OS for the functions they do, and they are both hard to get rid of when you no longer want them. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Just contacted them to see if they've contacted any other anti-spyware vendors to see if they could form a united front against this.
- mateo60, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Symantec = Pile Of ***** Bloatware.
It's a shame. Peter Norton was a good guy. Symantec has ruined his fine product. - GoIgo13, on 03/10/2009, -0/+0The first rule of PIFTS club is you do not talk about PIFTS.
- Tobey, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Symantec is a horrible company. I can't believe how they've ruined Norton's products. Peter Norton must be turning in his grave...
What's that? He's not dead?? Whoops... -
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