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- eth6, on 10/11/2007, -21/+112Firefox rocks
- aahpandasrun, on 10/11/2007, -20/+98Safari is clunky and doesn't integrate well with the windows environment. Plus, Firefox has extensions...
- hiraikotsu, on 10/11/2007, -7/+57Wouldn't it be fairer to compare Safari 3 against Firefox 3? Based on the dev blogs, FF3 is going to match Safari 3 in terms of features mentioned in this comparison (such as Private Browsing). In addition, the author doesn't seem all too familiar with Firefox; for example, one can easily add a Bookmarks button to the toolbar by right clicking it and selecting Customize. Removing these items from the linked comparison, this review is basically calling Safari 3 better because, in the author's opinion, the interface is "sleeker" and "uniform." (Apparently the author forgot that there are hundreds of FF skins available for download.)
At any rate, in my opinion, add-ons are what propel Firefox beyond every other browser out there. - bpapa, on 10/11/2007, -12/+35I'm not sure about on Windows, but on OS X it's absolutely no contest. Firefox is clunky as hell and although Safari isn't as extensible, a lot of the extensions you might want are duplicated in Dashboard widgets.
Plus the Text Find in Safari is the greatest in the history of all software. :) - xike, on 10/11/2007, -2/+21You use IE? You're the reason web developers hate their lives...
- BayAreaKing, on 10/11/2007, -9/+26Private browsing
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -46/+62Safari sucks. Firefox rocks.
- JasonCox, on 10/11/2007, -26/+41There's just no comparison. Firefox just kicks Safari's ass. And this is coming from the IE using Microsoft fanboy so thats a compliment.
- geoken, on 10/11/2007, -7/+20You really can't talk about FireFox without talking about extensions. For example, Stealther does the same thing as privacy mode. Resizable Text area.....well I probably don't need to tell you what this extension does. There are so many tab extensions that you can get them to behave any way you want. Other points made are pure opinion. I hate the find feature in safari. And I also think FF in it's default state, let alone in one of it's many themes, looks better than safari.
- ill0gical, on 10/11/2007, -1/+14Safari has extensions as well. Google for pimpmysafari. However it doesn't have nearly the wealth of plugins that firefox does.
- gcauthon, on 10/11/2007, -1/+12CGI-limits reached, please try again later!
I'm guessing the author added a stupid 90's era CGI hit counter at the bottom and that's the only reason we can't see the text of the article right now. - lordtyros, on 10/11/2007, -5/+15While Opera can do more than Firefox out of the box, Firefox's popularity and power come from it support for extensions. Unfortunately, the extensions that provide expanded functionality also cripple Firefox's performance. I stick with Opera's built-in feature set, which is more than enough for my needs and doesn't come with a dramatic performance hit.
- locustsday, on 10/11/2007, -9/+19what a foolish comparison, the reviewer seems to be completely ignorant of Firefox's extentions and Safari's numerous rendering problems, I junked it after testing it out for 2 days. It couldn't even render Gmail properly!!! This is Mac fanboy propaganda, nothing else.
- ichibanjay, on 10/11/2007, -8/+18Safari passes the Acid2 Test while Firefox does not. So technically, Safari follows web-standards more closely than Firefox.
Give it a try:
http://www.webstandards.org/action/acid2/ - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -3/+13I am so used to Safari on the Mac that I won't change. However for some reason I prefer the interface of Firefox on the PC aspect.
All I ask is that they add in the ability to remove confirm closed tabs in Safari. Especially in message boards where I do a lot of tabbed browsing. It's annoying that I have to hit "close" when enter a post on a message board and close the window afterwards.
"You have entered text on “Digg - Safari 3 VS Firefox 2”. If you close the tab, your changes will be lost. Do you want to close the tab anyway?"
That is what i'm talking about there...so annoying - juanbrujo, on 10/11/2007, -4/+14Safari is faster on OSX than FF. And it is stricted on xhtml/css rules. I just love it. Extensions?? Safari has many of them, of course not compared to the huge amount for FF.
- Zipp425, on 10/11/2007, -1/+10Stealther
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1306 - nendoke, on 10/11/2007, -3/+12That was one of the funniest texts I had read since last week,
Writer picked up some good Safari features with few firefox ones and Compared them!
The Best Safari Features VS Normal FireFox Features - peagle, on 10/11/2007, -7/+16Internet browsers already achieved perfection in 1994 with the release of Netscape Navigator. Since then it's all been different skins for the buttons.
- toast1226, on 10/11/2007, -2/+10I buried this as inaccurate. The author of this review is clearly biased.
- AtHomeBoy2000, on 10/11/2007, -4/+11On the Mac I like Safari better, but on PC... Firefox all the way, it rocks.
- AtHomeBoy2000, on 10/11/2007, -0/+7I am STILL stunned that Microsoft is so damn arrogant to think that they can just ignore tests like this and claim it's ok.
- Zipp425, on 10/11/2007, -1/+8You can already have private browsing in FF2... Just use the add-on, Stealther:
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1306 - eightyd, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6I care. I love opera too.
- PleaseJustDie, on 10/11/2007, -3/+9odd it works just fine on my Linux box, it worked fine when I had SuSE 9 on it, then when I had suse 10 on it then when I went to SuSE 10.1 and it still works just fine now that I'm using Ubuntu Feisty Fawn.
- coolfactor, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6There are many different ways to judge a browser, and many different perspectives. From a web developer's perspective, I've favored Safari, but had no qualms with Firefox. IE just sucks, though.
- GMorgan, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6Most of the problems with Firefox on Linux are attributable to the Flash 9 player. There is a fix for this, Adobe have produced a library you can compile to improve Flash support. What it highlights though is the problem with proprietary code. MS systems struggled for years because of junk proprietary apps that no one can fix. Lets hope Gnash gets somewhere.
- HypocriteDigg, on 10/11/2007, -1/+6Wow, you're so old school that you're not smart enough to find the option to do this in Safari?
- p51d007, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5I prefer FF also. I spent a week with Safari, and, even though it worked as advertised, lack of addons, plus, there wasn't anything "better" about it to justify switching.
- linkinpark342, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4I believe FF 3 passes Acid2 so we'll be there very soon too :). That said i don't think it follows CSS3 stuff yet...
- planksconstant, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4firefox 2 has the same functionality as 1.5. it just has more. And i have never had a problem with it crashing.
- Manuelmty, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5Google about:config
- MtDewaholic, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5Were you using that RAM for something else? What is the point of having GBs of RAM if you don't want your applications using it?
Firefox on my Mac routinely requires anywhere from 2 to 10 times the CPU resources to render the exact same page that Safari renders. I'm not talking about a short lived spike as the page is loading and redrawing. I'm talking about the CPU load of each application as it just sits there displaying a static page with no interaction on my part. I've seen the same thing on Windows. Linux is the only platform I haven't seen this Firefox CPU hogging problem on. - MacSuxWindozSux, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4LOL Basically cherry pick the win for Safari. "mostofmymac.com" figures.
Comparing out of box experience for computers, and software is pointless.
In reality everyone gets extra apps, and plugins which completely change the game. - Chesh, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4Firefox 3 Alpha passes Acid2. Throwing that out there.
- MacSuxWindozSux, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3Doing the same thing in an extension as you would built in. Performance hit?
If anything as an extension you can reduce bloat, and completely nuke the feature if you don't want to use it. - prockcore, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3What are you talking about? The default positioning on both safari and firefox is position: static
- AtHomeBoy2000, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4I agree with that. I tried it, hated it... went back to Firefox
- ninjathis, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3I lol'd
- howtogeek, on 10/11/2007, -3/+6The most interesting part of this article must be the title... it's been down with no working mirrors for 10 minutes, and continues to receive diggs.
- calinthematrix, on 10/11/2007, -3/+6I just don't get all this Safari hype, especially the comparison to Firefox. Let's face it, Safari sucks. Firefox is a great browser, Opera is a good browser. Loading up Safari for the first time is reminiscent of the first public release of Opera (V 2.12) from back in 1995. It’s clunky, it’s not pretty and most of all it functions like a poorly ported version of a crappy old PS1 game brought over to the PC. Ok, I tend to like Apple and they make some great products (life without my ipod would suck) but every company has it’s turd. I say no to Suckfarti and anyone who disagrees is just another Apple fanboy.
- HypocriteDigg, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4Well since the article is down, I have no idea if he's comparing the OSX or Windows versions. If it's the OSX versions, then Safari is by far my favorite.
- DAllenJ, on 10/11/2007, -4/+7Why does Firefox on the Mac hang so often?
- lcmatt, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2When Safari supports Adblock,Greasemonkey and ..... actually forget it I'll stick with Firefox.
- stonyhill, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3I would guess that most of Safari's rendering problems are due to the fact that web designers forget to declare position:relative, which is assumed by Firefox. Now that Safari is available on Windows, more Windows web designers will probably be testing for it, though it was always easy enough to fire up Konqueror on a live CD, even if you didn't have a Mac.
- cyberdork, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3Funny, until now nobody has mentioned the one and only reason why I prefer Safari over Firefox: RSS!
I have a bunch of RSS feed bookmarks in my bookmarks bar. TUAW, Versiontracker, a friend's blog, my brothers flickr stream, and I notice immediately when those sites are updated.
If Firefox had those features I would most likely switch to FF.
One FF extension I really miss on Safari is the fantastic FlashBlock. There is nothing comparable available for Safari. - CryingWolf, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Except for the fact that IE has never played nice and web developers are still pulling their hair out over.
- mfearby, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2This "FTW" crap that people keep writing after stupid comments is really beginning to piss me off in a big way! Stop it, you morons, and learn how to speak English!
- mojo.ash, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2It only make sense to compare product that available in the market hence Safari 3 vs Firefox 2
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