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- virtualball, on 10/12/2007, -6/+111Yeah I tried this about four days ago, but it only reset the count for me. Don't dogg me down because I'm saying that, I'm just saying it isn't dumbass proof :D
- virtualball, on 10/12/2007, -9/+98Lol, I meant Digg :P
(Spelling isn't dumbass proof either :D ) - OBKenobi, on 10/12/2007, -2/+79Ok, so we'll patch the patch.
- Marshalrusty, on 10/12/2007, -7/+57@ ratsoid
Thanks for sharing. I'm sure he really gives a crap. - WaterDragon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+49It will be an eternal ritual of patching and counter-patching.
- Moocha, on 10/12/2007, -3/+37Interesting you should have a legit Vista Home Premium, considering it's not released for home users yet.
- virtualball, on 10/12/2007, -4/+38But if I use Linux I'll never get laid! 0.o :D
Happy Holidays Linux fanboys! My gift to you is a comment that is worth digging down. - mugenkeiji, on 10/12/2007, -9/+41I have a legit Vista Home Premium, but I'll use this anyway because activation is ***** lame.
- adml_shake, on 10/12/2007, -2/+31I'm saying that there will be a patch for this within a few weeks of the Vista launch.
- OBKenobi, on 10/12/2007, -8/+36Yes, it sort of has that Burning Man appeal. Install it on an old PC, then throw it off a roof. Art!
- turrican, on 10/12/2007, -2/+28@Krenor - but if you weren't going to buy and pay for a copy in the first place, then how are they being hurt...? You're still supporting *their* platform by perpetuating its use.
Everyone talks about M$ needing to go away - well, it's not going to happen by increasing the use of their product ;-) - OBKenobi, on 10/12/2007, -8/+34[quote]Hey, I know of a way to permanently activate it! BUY IT.[/quote]
How does that permanently activate it? You still have to activate it repeatedly if there's any minor change to your hardware, or if you reinstall, even if you buy it. It's not permanent.
Do you understand now why people complain about Vista? - Prototek, on 10/12/2007, -2/+22If people want to read about it.
- jpop, on 10/12/2007, -5/+23The real question is there any reason to use Vista yet...
- CurtHowland, on 10/12/2007, -1/+17Piracy is Microsoft's Golden Goose.
The pirated copies are the "loss leader", since their products get much more wide spread use than they would otherwise have. A pirated copy of Windows has "gee wiz" power to suck in the self-styled hacker-wannabes, and MS still gets to put the screws on businesses who try to save a few thousand dollars by copying.
The installed base of Windows stays higher than Microsoft's official business model would otherwise allow, so the demand for paid-for copies is higher than it otherwise would be too.
If Microsoft ever produced actual hack-proof copy protection, they would lose big time in the long run and they _know_ it. New learners would run something else with "gee-wiz" factor and the right price tag, like Linux or BSD, and when they went to work or school they would bring those skills with them.
Illegal copying is the best word of mouth advertising Microsoft could hope for. They decry it all the way to the bank, shedding crocodile tears. - drowningfish, on 10/12/2007, -3/+18Ironically, the very people who use these cracks for their squeaky new Vista OS are most likely the same people who complain about the innate bugs and security flaws within the OS that are going to be found over the course of it's lifetime and try to push open-source alternatives that they don't use or may have brought up once and instantly think themselves as *.nix gurus and evangelists.
/boggle
The best way to screw Microsoft is to simply not to use their products and assist the Open-Source Community in bettering their alternatives to counter-act the effectiveness of Microsoft's strong desktop dominance. - turrican, on 10/12/2007, -3/+18I wouldn't say that they're getting owned... I mean, you are still using a copy of *their* software, and so that means there's one more copy of *their* OS out in the wild - so how does that truly hurt *them*?
- detachment2702, on 10/12/2007, -2/+15Ah, just in time! I just installed Vista just for kicks.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+13microsoft prefers people to pirate windows than not use them at all.
proven by ironically allowing auto-updates but not web-updates. - TheDude5555, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13No kidding. I really think it is ironic that a group of people who profess to hate everything Microsoft would go so far out of their way to use this product. Would it not make more sense to simply use something else?
- suppah, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12hum, pretty like chess...
- OBKenobi, on 10/12/2007, -3/+14[quote]if you people didn't go around trying to script-kiddy everything, normal legitimate people could have been paying $350 for Ultimate Edition instead of $400.[/quote]
That's still way too much considering the volume at which it will sell and that there is no real competition to speak of yet. If it was reduced down to $100, then maybe you'd have a point.
I bet if there was some serious competition (not criticizing OS X, Linux, they just don't have the marketshare), then you'd see a much bigger price drop for Windows than if people stopped pirating it.
I think MS has zero incentive to lower prices. Why would they if they already control 90% of the market and have RAISED prices anyway? - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13I just did it and it worked like a charm. Vista Ultimate x64 # $400 out of my pocket!
- johnny23, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12@escamillo
...because I can count the games worth playing and hardware worth using on linux on one hand. Why do people keep asking this question?
Yes, yes, we all know Linux is free and will someday cure cancer and bring peace and harmony to the universe. However, until I can hook up a camera or other peripheral and have it work in Linux in under 5 minutes (hell, 5 hours!), play any games worth playing (and don't give me any crap about cedega or wine please), or support any new hardware the moment it hits the streets, then I will continue using windows.
As a desktop consumer OS, LINUX SUCKS! Get over it. If I need to set up a cheap web server or compute engine, Linux will be fine, but otherwise... - billydisaster, on 10/12/2007, -9/+18gcnaddict I'm digging you down. If it wasn't for the hackers cracking security then Windows would be much more expensive for the people who really do have a hard time paying the retail price for it. Microsoft will charge the maximum the market will bear for their product. If they had to spend less time developing it the price would still be the same.
On the other hand, it might be better if more of us used open source options so we didn't have to put up with lame ass wankers like Microsoft in the first place. - gcnaddict, on 10/12/2007, -8/+17"You still have to activate it repeatedly if there's any minor change to your hardware"
*****. That's only if you change both your motherboard AND your primary hard drive. - ArthurSucks, on 10/12/2007, -3/+12This ain't about stealing. This guide should be used by people who DO BUY it. Activation is a way of controlling the consumer. This gives the consumer the upper hand again. It's easy to over simplify this as theft, but in reality it's much more complicated.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8"it's not great tho. it's stable but it's ugly and hard to use"
Dude what decade are you living in? - EtherGnat, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8"hum, pretty like chess..."
Except it's a game that Microsoft (RIAA, or whoever) can never truly win--there are only degrees of losing. - johnny23, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7johnny is part of a team that cares for several hundred linux systems running on Sun, AMD, and Intel hardware, as well as virtual machines. Johnny knows his linux, thanks.
- pejeno, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Gamers eventually will have to use it. Directx 10 will only be available for vista. Microsoft has subtle ways of forcing users to upgrade.
- rossinio, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8you know what "dogging" is right :) was made funnier by the choice of letter replacement!
- geofffox, on 10/12/2007, -6/+13I'm still not sure I understand why everyone is rushing into this OS. This paper is a sobering reminder that new is not necessarily improved: http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.txt
- WaterDragon, on 10/12/2007, -7/+14Thanks Jamesmorris...but someone modded you waaaaay down
so...here it is again.
Let's all play mod-down racer!
And...for that zip file needed in step 12, (with disabled mirror sites) there are already at least three torrents posted.
This one is being seeded now. (Mod THAT down, idiots!)
http://www.mininova.org/tor/526429
And now, with no further ado, here's Jamesmorris's illustrious comment again.
Microsoft are getting OWNED, there's tons of various cracks for Vista now :D
Here's the method for the lazy people, or incase the site gets the digg 'effect':
1. Install Windows Vista Ultimate edition (or other edition) without product key.
2. Windows Vista needs to be applied with 2099-ReArm trick, so that the counter of minutes to no activation required period will not return to normal after reboot. Click on Start Orb button.
3. Select “All Programs”, then “Accessories”.
4. Right click on “Command Prompt, then select “Run as Administrator (A)”.
5. If User Account Control (UAC) prompt a warning message, click on “Continue”.
6. In the command prompt, type date and press Enter. You will see the following:
Microsoft Windows [Version 6.0.6000]
Copyright (c) 2006 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
C:Windowssystem32>date
Current date: 12/19/2006 Thursday
Enter new date:
7. Enter 12/31/2099 (December 31, 2099).
8. Next, type cscript slmgr.vbs -rearm. You will see something like the following:
C:Windowssystem32>cscript slmgr.vbs -rearm
Microsoft (R) Windows Script Host Version 5.7
Copyright (C) Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
The command completed successfully.
To make the change effectively, please restart the system.
9. Then reset the date of the system to current date again by typing date again. You will see the following:
Microsoft Windows [Version 6.0.6000]
Copyright (c) 2006 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
C:Windowssystem32>date
Current date: 12/31/2099 Thursday
Enter new date:
10. Type in current date, i.e. 12/19/2006.
11. Exit from command prompt, but do not restart the computer.
12. Download StopTimer.zip, StopTimer.zip or StopTimer.zip.
13. Extract the downloaded archive file into a folder. It should contains “Vista test crack.exe” and “timerstop.sys”.
14. Execute or run the “Vista test crack.exe” by right click on “Vista test crack.exe”, and select “Run as Administrator (A)”.
15. Optional: Press in Test button, and it will pop up a message says 4 timers are stopped. At this time, the counter should be freezed, Check with slmgr.vbs -dlv command, with the minutes left should be the same after a few minutes interval. If it’s the case, continue with the following steps to run the crack every startup.
16. In the Vista test crack window, click on “Install” button. You will be prompted with “Service installed” message if everything is done properly and correctly. The crack will copy the patched stoptimer.sys to system folder and install a new service named “timerstop” to stop kernel-mode timers in spsys.sys system file.
17. Exit from the crack, and restart the computer.
18. The hacking is basically done. Next few steps to to verify that the activation grace period built-in countdown timer is actually stopped and disable the timers from working properly, and make sure that the crack is installed properly. After restart, log on to Windows Vista. Run for a few minutes.
19. Press on Windows + R keys.
20. Type slmgr.vbs -dlv to check the time left to activate Windows Vista. If the time left is 43200 minutes that’s mean the crack is successful.
With the crack, you will have the following in the registry:
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINESYSTEMControlSet001ServicesTimerStop]
“Type”=dword:00000001
“Start”=dword:00000002
“ErrorControl”=dword:00000000
“ImagePath”=hex(2):5c,00,3f,00,3f,00,5c,00,45,00,3a,00,5c,00,57,00,69,00,6e,00,
64,00,6f,00,77,00,73,00,5c,00,73,00,79,00,73,00,74,00,65,00,6d,00,33,00,32,
00,5c,00,54,00,69,00,6d,00,65,00,72,00,53,00,74,00,6f,00,70,00,2e,00,73,00,
79,00,73,00,00,00
“DisplayName”=”TimerStop”
Further information:
* The TimerStop vista test crack works on all 32-bit x86 Windows Vista edition such as Vista Ultimate and Vista Home Premium. Success rate in 64-bit (x64) environment is likely to be low.
* The crack will make the time left to activate Vista to become always 43200 minutes (30 days), and will not countdown or reduce.
* It’s possible to access Windows Update if you install Windows Vista with default product key (no product key entered when installation).
* During the first 3 days of activation grace period after installing Windows Vista, Microsoft has designed it in such a way that Vista will allow greatest flexibility for users to install required drivers and application during this period, so Vista won’t prompt any reminder message for activation. After crack, Vista OS will always run with 30 days left for activation, thus there will not be any watermark or reminder to activate.
* It’s possible to pass Windows Vista Genuine Advantage (WVGA) validation, so users able to download Microsoft value-added software for genuine customers.
* As mentioned above, as Vista will also remain in first 3 days of activation grace period, in theory, Microsoft will not be able to differentiate who is the newly installed system, or who is the ‘patched’ system, unless of course, they check for the specific file or system (privacy anyone?).
* Users can only view that there is 30 more days for system to be activated in the system properties, but it won’t affect system usage or installation method. - Stonekeeper, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6@dragonworks2050
That's the manufacturer's fault. Nothing to do with linux. But you probably already know that. - kodek, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6I just tried it. It works on my Ultimate 32-bit installation. Awesome.
- IntruderII, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7You mean besides DirectX 10, and the completely redesigned networking, audio, print, and display sub-systems?
How did you feel when you upgraded from Windows 95 to 98? That had a hell of a lot less new features than XP to Vista. - gcnaddict, on 10/12/2007, -5/+11"I think MS has zero incentive to lower prices. Why would they if they already control 90% of the market and have RAISED prices anyway?"
Considering inflation, Business edition costs less than XP Pro did when it was released.
I love how I got modded down by everyone after originally having +8. Does anyone have any idea what 50 dollars an hour for five years on a full time scheduele equals? It's over five hundred thousand dollars PER DEVELOPER. There are lots of devs working on Vista. In addition, there are other people doing other jobs who are working similar schedueles. You then need to consider such things as bulk printing costs (not too much), shipping costs (fuel, etc.) marketing costs, electricity costs (those server farms which are used for 6 hours a day to compile 1, no 2, no 3, no 5, no 10 builds per day... that's 60 hours over several server farms. That's a LOT),.. assuming that most of the people buying the software get it from OEMs, it's no wonder that costs are where they are as it is. I'm not surprised that people don't realize that; it's not something that goes into consideration. - klawz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Hey may have a tech net or MSDN subscription - or have they not passed out THOSE keys yet?
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7If Microsoft sucks so bad, why is everyone trying to get a free copy? Just explain that?
- WizzleFish, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Yeah. I heard about this, but I won't bother trying it now that MS is going to find a way to fix it.
ScuttleEnough: You can make Linux pretty, and after a while it's very easy to use. I hated myself for a while after switching back to Windows because of proprietary software inconveniences... - LilRabbitFooFoo, on 08/11/2008, -1/+6um, everyone else in the world can get their webcam working in 1 minute or so by just plugging it in...ahem.
20 minutes of recompiling after 5 months of OS experience?! You aren't helping the Linux cause here, mate. ;) - garugaga, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6http://thepiratebay.org/tor/3583526/Windows_Vista_Crack
This torrent is seeded by me and I will seed it for a while. - saska, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8WaterDragon, if you want money for dealing with Microsoft software, maybe you should get a job.
You paid for anti-virus and anti-spyware software? You're a fool. - grendel, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6stopped reading after "evaluation mode forever"
just hope Dell releases another OEM like xpsp2.
installed on well over 100 dell machines, no serial no activation. - MidnightSon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Gotta keep that GAME Platform going..........
- mugenkeiji, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6OEMs have been handing out Vista upgrades since mid-October. True I haven't got the disc, but then that's why we have BT.
- ogre2112, on 10/12/2007, -4/+8Just buy it. It's not worth the PITA to run around in circles trying to crack, and recrack after every MS patch that circumvents the crack.
- drjekelmrhyde, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5LAME you'll have to activate sooner or later if you want service packs and updates
- aurrea, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4After we patch the patch, I think they will come right back and patch the patch of the patch.
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