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  • syff, on 06/12/2008, -11/+149Finally! Hopefully this release will help the alternative browser's market share to grow even further.

    I've been an eager beta tester, and I must say Opera 9.5 is a solid release - fast, safe, stable. And the new Quick Find feature is simply outstanding!
    • arkansaw, on 06/12/2008, -2/+20Exactly, Firefox may be good competition, but that's not going to stop Opera from cutting IE down to size!
      • SlechtValk, on 06/12/2008, -7/+21The only thing that Opera lacks is the fact that it is not open source...
        • ruddy, on 06/12/2008, -5/+2I would be all for opera if it was open source...
        • ededdeddy, on 06/13/2008, -0/+4Have you ever downloaded/looked at/used Firefox's source in any way? Will you? If not, how is Opera not being open source a disadvantage to you?

          (btw if you are a FF dev or are working on your own personal xul project or some such, please excuse this post ;)
        • SlechtValk, on 06/13/2008, -3/+1@ededdeddy: no i personally do not look/use much code from Firefox or any other open source software but just the possibility of being able to look under the bonnet is a pro for me... it gives the impression that the Dev's have nothing to hide... (and if they have it gets spotted by someone, somewhere soon...) and the possibility for everyone to find and improve weaknesses.
    • troye, on 06/12/2008, -38/+7Pffftt, they are only doing this as to prevent Firefox 3 coming out before Opera 9.5, or else Opera would go unnoticed as Firefox would take all the hype and the news coverage and Opera would fade away even more. It's sort of like the release of next-gen consoles. Every company wants that strategic release date.

      Opera ain't bad, but Firefox is gonna tap that ass.
      • johnnysaucepn, on 06/12/2008, -3/+27'Fading away' being code for 'doubling the number of users in the past year', yes?
      • madeingermany, on 06/12/2008, -1/+11The beta was out for so long, it turns everything you said into pure BS
      • pivovy, on 06/17/2008, -0/+1yea the only difference is that both Opera and Firefox are free... so even if those two compete I'm only glad they do
    • MrViklund, on 06/12/2008, -36/+3Blablablabla...

      http://firefox.com/
      • zabean, on 06/12/2008, -1/+4heard of it
        whats your point
      • Dhekke, on 06/12/2008, -0/+4You dumbasses criticizing Opera and hailing Firefox don't actually get the bigger picture of why Firefox is a good. Both Opera and firefox shold grow, it's good for the health of web technology development. Leave it in the hands of only one browser (be it IE or FF or Opera or Safari) and things will go all 1998 again.
    • specialK16, on 06/12/2008, -0/+9Trying it at work while we speak! Incredible speed and performance increase. It's awesome. Now I just have to see if the Intranet pages will work (probably won't). I will miss adblock, though.
      • GrantTLC, on 06/12/2008, -6/+4I agree. I love using Opera but the ad-blocking is rudimentary at best. Sure, you configure your hosts file and Opera does have a facility for blocking ads but this requires you to manually select each and every ad you want blocked, by hand, a page at a time.

        Ad-blocking in Firefox is MUCH simpler and is one of the big three or four reasons more people prefer that browser.
        • Dracker, on 06/12/2008, -0/+13http://www.fanboy.co.nz/adblock/opera/

          It's not as robust as Adblock Plus's self-updating list, but it's a massive urlfilter.ini that will block about 95% of the ads right off the bat.

          That said, I will concede that ad blocking is one strength Firefox has over Opera.
        • Ramble, on 06/12/2008, -0/+3Just a warning, in some betas a large adblock list can make the browser buggy.
        • specialK16, on 06/12/2008, -0/+3@Dracker: Will try this ASAP. Also, is there any way to add "live" spell checker, like the one in firefox?
      • DarkFoxDK, on 06/12/2008, -2/+13Ad/content block is built right into Opera.

        Right click on page -> Block Content... -> Click images/elements you want gone -> Press done.
        • mattus, on 06/12/2008, -2/+7And if you've used Adblock Plus, you'll know how woefully inadequate that method is.
        • specialK16, on 06/12/2008, -1/+3Actually that's true. The nice thing about Adblock Plus is that you don't have to block ads manually. You completely forget about advertisement.
        • Edrick, on 06/14/2008, -0/+1Except it's not woefully inadequate, unless you're using it wrong. I'm using Opera and it blocks all the ads AdBlock was blocking in FireFox, the exact same way. No manual blocking...for me at least.
      • Natfly, on 06/12/2008, -0/+4Thank god the increased the speed of flash, it was incredibly slow.
    • vilator, on 06/12/2008, -4/+0I loved opera, but I hated it when I couldnt use fantasy sports yahoo properly. Even firefox sometimes messes up on yahoo. Is it that evil?
    • skyshock1, on 06/12/2008, -12/+2SunSpider Javascript benchmark scores:
      (Mac version)

      --------------------------------------------
      RESULTS (means and 95% confidence intervals)
      --------------------------------------------
      Total: 5838.0ms +/- 4.2%
      --------------------------------------------

      3d: 578.2ms +/- 3.6%
      cube: 168.2ms +/- 2.9%
      morph: 208.8ms +/- 0.3%
      raytrace: 201.2ms +/- 8.2%

      access: 885.0ms +/- 7.8%
      binary-trees: 65.0ms +/- 6.3%
      fannkuch: 480.4ms +/- 11.6%
      nbody: 220.8ms +/- 8.6%
      nsieve: 118.8ms +/- 2.9%

      bitops: 765.8ms +/- 6.0%
      3bit-bits-in-byte: 94.6ms +/- 11.4%
      bits-in-byte: 126.4ms +/- 4.9%
      bitwise-and: 379.8ms +/- 12.4%
      nsieve-bits: 165.0ms +/- 3.4%

      controlflow: 83.4ms +/- 1.7%
      recursive: 83.4ms +/- 1.7%

      crypto: 364.8ms +/- 3.3%
      aes: 182.2ms +/- 3.5%
      md5: 88.6ms +/- 2.5%
      sha1: 94.0ms +/- 6.8%

      date: 433.0ms +/- 7.2%
      format-tofte: 224.4ms +/- 8.1%
      format-xparb: 208.6ms +/- 6.9%

      math: 507.4ms +/- 5.3%
      cordic: 230.0ms +/- 10.4%
      partial-sums: 161.2ms +/- 8.1%
      spectral-norm: 116.2ms +/- 20.9%

      regexp: 651.0ms +/- 6.1%
      dna: 651.0ms +/- 6.1%

      string: 1569.4ms +/- 10.6%
      base64: 159.0ms +/- 10.7%
      fasta: 316.4ms +/- 18.6%
      tagcloud: 313.6ms +/- 10.1%
      unpack-code: 616.0ms +/- 10.3%
      validate-input: 164.4ms +/- 9.0%
      • Mejogid, on 06/12/2008, -0/+9That's quite possibly the most useless benchmark result I've ever seen - what possible good is that number without results for other browsers on the same hardware?
        • dullnation, on 06/12/2008, -6/+1It doesn't mean anything. Even so, I'm going to post my Firefox 3 RC2 result
          ============================================
          RESULTS (means and 95% confidence intervals)
          --------------------------------------------
          Total: 2543.2ms +/- 1.2%
          --------------------------------------------

          Which also, doesn't mean anything.

          Even though, I feel compelled to say IN YO FACE!!
        • skyshock1, on 06/12/2008, -0/+1Fair enough. This on OS X Leopard:

          FireFox 3 RC1:
          ==================================
          RESULTS (means and 95% confidence intervals)
          --------------------------------------------
          Total: 3129.6ms +/- 3.4%
          --------------------------------------------


          Webkit Nightly (r34503):
          ==================================
          RESULTS (means and 95% confidence intervals)
          --------------------------------------------
          Total: 2018.8ms +/- 1.5%
          --------------------------------------------

          Opera 9.5
          ==================================
          RESULTS (means and 95% confidence intervals)
          --------------------------------------------
          Total: 6028.0ms +/- 2.3%
          --------------------------------------------


          Safari (3.1.1):
          ==================================
          RESULTS (means and 95% confidence intervals)
          --------------------------------------------
          Total: 3206.4ms +/- 1.3%
          --------------------------------------------

          So looks like Webkit Nightly still reigns supreme on OS X. Opera 9.5 being the slowest.
    • fantom88, on 06/12/2008, -1/+7I am also an eager beta tester. Is it bad that I am now disappointed I have no beta to use for a while.
    • CatalystDM, on 06/12/2008, -6/+2"Hopefully this release will help the alternative browser's market share to grow even further."
      ... to 3%.
      • MonkeyFarts, on 06/13/2008, -0/+3If 3% market share is so pathetic, why don't you code your own browser and get to, say, 5%? It's not that easy. 3% worldwide browser market share is a HUGE number, even if it is proportionally small.
    • zabean, on 06/12/2008, -0/+3quickfind.
      is.
      amazing.
    • thegreatanti, on 06/13/2008, -0/+1Jesus, just take a look at the enormous filesize: 8.5 MB. That sure has a lot of bloat in it.
  • arkansaw, on 06/12/2008, -14/+200About time!
    Opera deserves more recognition, spread the word folks!
    • waspinator, on 06/12/2008, -43/+5They should of never charged for their browser. Now they deserve nothing.
      • EJ902, on 06/12/2008, -2/+39Opera is completely free now, so there's no reason to judge them on their past endeavours. That being said I fail to see how them wanting to charge money for a product they've time and effort into producing is such a grave crime.
        • Fergy, on 06/12/2008, -0/+4He means that Opera lost the momentum Firefox got because it was free AND open source.
        • waspinator, on 06/13/2008, -2/+1Exactly.
      • arkansaw, on 06/12/2008, -1/+20And how long have you been living in the caves?
      • dudeguy1234, on 06/12/2008, -1/+8Should have, moron, not "should of". That doesn't even ***** make sense.
        • precision256, on 06/12/2008, -2/+1Like, OMG!
        • waspinator, on 06/13/2008, -1/+2I'm sorry your mind can't cope with a grammatical error.
    • ch33sehead, on 06/12/2008, -0/+1Didn't they JUST release a release candidate yesterday?
      • DarkDx, on 06/12/2008, -0/+2It had a small changelog so I guess it was ready for launch :)
    • MonkeyFarts, on 06/13/2008, -0/+2I've always been a Firefox guy (well, a Safari guy on OS X, but I'm referring to when I'm on my Windows box). I've never been much into Opera because I hated its interface, and it just didn't "click" with me. Well, I decided to give 9.5 a try for kicks, and I have to admit that it's really nice. It does everything I need it to do, the extra junk I don't need (mail, IRC, etc) doesn't seem to be using any resources if I don't use them and don't seem to contribute to longer browser startup times, and the memory footprint is decent. And the default theme looks great to boot. It just might replace FF for me. But, Safari is still king on OS X I say. =)
  • Jammerdelray, on 06/12/2008, -8/+93Finally a new theme, malware protection brings it inline with Firefox 3, speed inline with Firefox 3 and more. 2 solid browsers so hard to choose so I'm running both.
    • hypogenic, on 06/12/2008, -15/+4Does Opera support smart cards yet? If not, then not useful for me :(
      • ortucis, on 06/12/2008, -4/+16WTF has a smart card to do with a desktop browser? Go away.
        • DarkFoxDK, on 06/12/2008, -5/+3Could be for authentication for an internal company site or web banking?
        • ortucis, on 06/12/2008, -3/+6It is? Well, I just thought it had something to do with Smart Card like service on Windows, which like 99% of the users will never use..

          Oh well, too bad I dugg hypo down. There's no going back now.
        • insertAliasHere, on 06/12/2008, -8/+4"There's no going back now."

          Yeah there is. Click the thumbs up and it will cancel your bury. Click again to digg.
        • ChappyChaps11, on 06/12/2008, -1/+1When you work for a corporation you might understand. All my internal sites require data from my SmartCard, yes though the browser
        • MonkeyFarts, on 06/13/2008, -0/+1"There's no going back now."

          "Yeah there is. Click the thumbs up and it will cancel your bury. Click again to digg."

          NO! It's too late!!! AUGH!!!
    • Fergy, on 06/12/2008, -19/+6I'm sorry but the speed is not inline with Firefox 3. Try netvibes with Firefox 3 and Opera 9.5. In Opera it is slow and not fun to use. Also Digg is slower(not much but still).
      • DarkFoxDK, on 06/12/2008, -6/+13There is a big difference in the rendering method, making Opera >seem< slower to people who normally uses Fx, but it is in fact faster.

        It has something to do with what is loaded first, etc.
        • SlechtValk, on 06/12/2008, -4/+8I would like to digg you up, but without any (link to) test-results (proof of your statement) i won't.
        • DarkFoxDK, on 06/12/2008, -1/+3From http://operawiki.info/WhyOpera
          "Opera Provides textual content before ANY other browser[2], and noticeably faster than IE for total page loading time (IE doesn’t seem to pipeline HTTP/1.1 connections making it often slower than Opera or Firefox, see HttpProtocol for more info). Presto, the Opera 7 rendering engine puts the emphasis on getting the content of a page (the text) to the user earlier than Firefox, and Opera’s cache (especially the back/forward performance ) is simply faster than any other browser. Since v7.2, Opera’s DOM performance has improved greatly[4]. The biggest overall difference is for modem users, and for those on older computers, where browsers like Firefox bog down (tested with a P166, 128Mb memory). Opera excels here where the efficient page loading technology is most evident."

          Also: http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/browserSpeed.html#win ...
        • specialK16, on 06/12/2008, -0/+4Actually, I find it to be faster than Firefox 3.
        • Fergy, on 06/12/2008, -0/+1Did you try the websites I mentioned? I think not because those sites load once and the speed of the website is down to mostly javascript.
      • HigherLogic, on 06/12/2008, -0/+2Tools -> Preferences -> Advanced -> Browsing

        Change the Loading preference to something other than "Redraw Instantly". Opera is _much_ faster at rendering pages than Firefox.
    • Ramble, on 06/12/2008, -2/+34The speed isn't inline with Firefox 3, it's faster.
    • Jeran42, on 06/12/2008, -5/+2I run both firefox and opera simultaneously too.
      and occasionally I run IE as well, but I will soon close it due to the massive fail.
      • scimitar91, on 06/12/2008, -1/+3why would you run IE?
        • TheSmiddy, on 06/19/2008, -0/+2most online banking sites are fair *****.

          mine for exampled wont let me change my account because it refused to think that 2008 - 1986 is greater than 12 unless I'm using IE.
    • phinn, on 06/12/2008, -4/+6It's the best alternative to Firefox 3.0 out there. But I'll stick with Firefox 3.0, it's open source and I've grown to love it over the years.
      • Reikon, on 06/13/2008, -0/+2Open source doesn't make Firefox any better than Opera.
      • SlechtValk, on 09/01/2008, -0/+1Being open source doesn't make it better but i think it is preferable, (when two program's have equal quality and one is open source and the other is not i would choose the open source one...) still i prefer Opera in this case.
  • dan1el, on 06/12/2008, -9/+88The new theme is sleek!
    • struds, on 06/12/2008, -1/+12I think this is the first time since around opera 8 that I've left the default skin on, it's purdy.

      Only thing i dislike about the skin is that you can't seem to remove the open new tab button from the right hand side of the tab bar, making it a tiny bit less customisable.

      • Tamils, on 06/12/2008, -1/+22You can remove new tab button.

        Right click on new tab button and click "Remove from toolbar".
      • exclipy, on 06/12/2008, -1/+14Right-click the New Tab button and press Remove From Toolbar?
      • piesforyou, on 06/12/2008, -3/+10You can right-click on the button and select remove from toolbar.
      • Zounas, on 06/12/2008, -3/+29Right-click and... nevermind...
    • ataylor32, on 06/12/2008, -2/+14Agreed, although the Google favicon looks awful (not Opera's fault though):

      http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x121/lamintak/o ...
    • mKdiR, on 06/12/2008, -1/+5Damnit, i dont like this new theme and I want the old one back :@
      • vainbrian, on 06/13/2008, -0/+2click tools>appearance>opra_9_classic
        if it isnt in there yet, click find more skins and download.
        its that easy
    • greedz, on 06/12/2008, -3/+3i hate it :(
    • dineth, on 06/12/2008, -0/+1opera clearly has the best themes for a browser. check out the mirage n other skins. orgasmic! i use FF more, but i always wonder why no one makes such beautiful stuff for firefox. is that an opensource thing to nt clean up the interfaces (except for SUSE :)??!
  • ADuda, on 06/12/2008, -11/+52Yes! Go Opera!
  • iSeeU, on 06/12/2008, -5/+103I've got to be hallucinating, it's damn fast!
  • Einar1975, on 06/12/2008, -7/+66Super fast, and this new skin is badass!
  • jestho, on 06/12/2008, -25/+20Not as "beautiful" as I hoped. The native skins look rather unfinished.
    • hirolau, on 06/12/2008, -3/+4That's what I thought too! But after only a few minutes I changed my mind, and now I love it!
    • mrynit, on 06/12/2008, -2/+3Too dark in my oppinion. I like the old color scheme. I first thought it looked like vista color scheme.
    • ortucis, on 06/12/2008, -1/+7I love the fact that the new skin is dark and you can concentrate on the page content instead (since most sites have light backgrounds.. WEB 2.0). The only problem with this skin is that it wastes too much damn space. So I ended up changing the skin to custom user made 'Like Maxthon' skin available from Opera site (Tools > Appearance > Find More Skins: Select that skin and press download, it's installed :) ).

      Other than that, this is the best and fastest browser out there so YAY!
    • TheHayze, on 06/12/2008, -0/+5Psst, Opera is 100% able to be skinned. Right now, though, it seems MyOpera is down. But it's there.
  • tismondo, on 06/12/2008, -5/+54Love the new skin - love the new engine - love the new everything. Massive improvements, even over beta 2!

  • Canute, on 06/12/2008, -5/+45Am I the only one who, when surfing digg.com, needs to click the previous button 3 times before it actually goes back?
    • Goblin, on 06/12/2008, -1/+36This should help. add http://ads1.msn.com/* to your blocked contents and it should fix it.

      http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id= ...
      http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id= ...
      • daxz, on 06/12/2008, -1/+9thank you. it solved the problem, at least for me.
      • V1xIII, on 06/12/2008, -0/+6fantastic, that problem had been bugging me for a long time.
      • gdehms, on 06/12/2008, -0/+3This was the reason I stopped using Opera and why I'm running Firefox 3. I felt like I would click the button several times before the browser would actually respond. Although I'm perfectly content with Firefox 3 RC3 right now.. maybe I'll give Opera a try again.
      • specialK16, on 06/12/2008, -0/+1It used to happen to me in with previous versions. Right now it doesn't happen anymore.
    • rugabug, on 06/12/2008, -0/+1The same thing happens to me in IE and Mobile Safari sometimes.
    • Bean888, on 06/12/2008, -0/+1When Opera was crashing on Digg's comment system redesign a few weeks ago a Digg developer also mentioned that the issue about the Back Button is a known issue.
    • Roadhog32901, on 06/19/2008, -0/+1Nope..me too.(last version of Opera also did this)..if you hold the back button...a drop down menu will appear...then select the digg home page...that is the only work around I know of...this only happens on digg...so go figure...

      I use Firefox3 for digg now...both are just excellent browsers and I use both...no reason for me not to use both..
  • buckchoris, on 06/12/2008, -65/+5I still love me Internet Explorer and Opera sucks bigtime with video hosting sites like youtube.

    • mossblaser, on 06/12/2008, -1/+23Internet explorer users like you are a cretin and a hindrance to web designers.
    • GrantTLC, on 06/12/2008, -0/+2As a devoted YouPorn masturbator, I find Opera more than meets my daily needs. And I still don't feel as dirty as someone who professes to "love" IE.
    • ch33sehead, on 06/12/2008, -0/+1Youtube has always worked great with Opera. That's because youtube is a well-coded site. Did you ***** up your settings one time and get mad at opera or something?
    • DarkShroud, on 06/14/2008, -0/+1I have to use IE for a number of sites I goto. It's because of users like you that the rest of us are treated like retarnds. That being said, please check out www.ie7pro.com
  • adiman7, on 06/12/2008, -22/+20[Special announcement]
    The marketing staff and developer team at Opera Software ASA is asked to stop commenting on the story of their own software...

    Just joking, I like Opera too. Downloading right now.
  • Ciryon, on 06/12/2008, -4/+56Omg it's fast. Try it on a old machine and you will really feel the difference.
    • Terr01, on 06/12/2008, -0/+9True story.

      Old HP Vectra computer.
      Running Slackware.
      Running either FVWM or Blackbox window managers.

      Ran Opera. Browsed web. Opened multiple tabs.

      'Course, more than five tabs would be nasty, but compare that to the system requirements of any other browser besides lynx/links...

      ... on a 233mhz processor (Pentium II) with with 32mb of RAM (PC100)
  • apophis2k, on 06/12/2008, -3/+27Dragonfly is in there, dockable, much better than before. Loving it!
  • ZeroDreams, on 06/12/2008, -2/+20oh man i literally was checking the opera page ever day for an update. i really like how fast this thing is. and the cached browsing is really good for sites like digg...
  • Felonious, on 06/12/2008, -5/+7What happened to left click + right click = wand form completion? Im going to be a little upset if that was removed. It was probably my most used shortcut.
    • kyleabaker, on 06/12/2008, -1/+11Go to:
      Preferences->Advanced->Shortcuts->Enable mouse gestures: Check this option.

      This feature has now been included into the mouse gestures.
      • Felonious, on 06/12/2008, -7/+3Well thanks for telling me, but no thanks to team Opera since I don't want Mouse Gestures on.
    • ZeMeisterstuck, on 06/12/2008, -0/+12Ctrl + ENTER
      • Terr01, on 06/12/2008, -0/+5Yep. I didn't even know there was a gesture for it.
    • Hakonan, on 06/12/2008, -0/+6Right click + move mouse to the right
      • modafokaxx, on 06/13/2008, -0/+1yeah, forward gesture makes even more sense.. been using it for years, never even knew there was a left click + right click option for wand completion!
  • NihilFist, on 06/12/2008, -3/+63I haven't used Opera for quite some time, and I must say that this new skin is awesome. I also love the "Paste and Go" feature that Opera has. I just might switch to this from Firefox...

    Good job, Opera people.
    • Felonious, on 06/12/2008, -1/+34Paste and go and has been around for awhile now.
      • NihilFist, on 06/12/2008, -1/+11Sorry, bad phrasing on my part.

        I know that, I used opera for quite awhile before discovering Firefox. Never touched IE on my personal computer.
        • Felonious, on 06/12/2008, -1/+9Yea I realised after I replied to you, that you didn't say the NEW paste and go. My appologies.
        • FLarsen, on 06/12/2008, -0/+9No, it's my fault. I'm so sorry! :(
        • ch33sehead, on 06/12/2008, -0/+8Someone call for a professional scapegoat?
        • Felonious, on 06/13/2008, -0/+1No man it's totally my fault not yours.
    • Fergy, on 06/12/2008, -21/+1If you want past and go you could just install the extension you know?
      • DarkFoxDK, on 06/12/2008, -1/+9if you want [insert feature built into by default Opera] in Firefox you could just install the extension you know?
      • HigherLogic, on 06/12/2008, -0/+5Ah, the classic Firefox catchphrase.
    • HigherLogic, on 06/12/2008, -0/+3Paste and Go is nice, so is the right-click menu when you highlight a URL and click on "Go to web address". That and all the other keyboard/mouse shortcuts make me never want to use another browser (specifically Z and X).
  • WCL23, on 06/12/2008, -19/+41Opera is a good browser, but Firefox's extensibility will always give it the edge IMHO.

    Well done to the Opera team on a great release :)
    • hirolau, on 06/12/2008, -3/+23The only thing I miss in Opera is the AmIonMySpace extension. Everything else I need is build in.



      • Zounas, on 06/12/2008, -2/+10Wouldn't be too hard to write a few lines of UserJS to do that...
    • mrynit, on 06/12/2008, -4/+18Very true, however Opera comes with features that should be built into FireFox by now. some examples: fast forward/rewind buttons, thumbnail preview, ad blocking and short cut editing.

      FireFox is better because it is open source and extendable with add ons. I enjoy the out-of-the-box usage of Opera and have hardly any need to use addons, thus why I use it. Of course there is always room for improvement for both browsers.

      • SlechtValk, on 06/12/2008, -2/+12You forget mouse gestures... i know you could get a plug-in for Firefox to add them, but i like them being installed in Opera out of the box.

        Than you make one mistake, IMHO... just being open source does not make software better... i agree that it would be desirable that Opera gets open source but it does not instantly make it better...
      • javaroast, on 06/12/2008, -1/+4I wish Opera's adblock was as comprehensive and easy to use as Adblock Plus, it's probably the biggest drawback for me to using Opera on a regular basis. On the other hand Firefox really needs a PageZoom that is as good as Opera's. It really helps in certain situations when you want to see a full page.
      • ed54, on 06/12/2008, -1/+1I don't know about the fast forward and rewind buttons. never really used them. i usually just remove them right after a install. if anyone else uses it, they get confused when it takes them back more than one page.

        Go Opera.
    • ortucis, on 06/12/2008, -5/+12It gives FF so much edge that I still use Opera now matter how many features FF rips off..
    • skyshock1, on 06/12/2008, -6/+7Yup. People will even put up with the sluggish POS Gecko rendering engine just because of all the bells and whistles they can pile on their browser
    • Zelgadis, on 06/12/2008, -1/+2It's true that firefox is more customizable, but having that compromises the speed...
      Opera is not as customizable but has many function built-in and is incredibly fast! :)
      • HigherLogic, on 06/12/2008, -0/+6Um, Opera is much more customizable than Firefox. You can literally enable/disable any toolbar, move everything wherever the hell you want it, edit any menu (dropdown, right-click) or keyboard/mouse shortcut, etc. Firefox is extremely lacking in this aspect.
  • sensor, on 06/12/2008, -4/+52Firefox fan here. I have to say that the new interface is pretty good.
    • SlechtValk, on 06/12/2008, -1/+16I like your honesty about Opera although you may prefer Firefox...
  • kenvsryu, on 06/12/2008, -5/+40miniopera for the iphone please!!! safari sucks balls.
    • ilgaz, on 06/12/2008, -1/+12How can they do it? SDK disallows anything "interpreting" which means no Javascript. Not to forget they have to open source to Apple to get certified. Also Trolltech will need a long time to make Qt 4 (the Opera's framework) if they ever do considering the horrible closed nature of device.
      Opera Mini? Totally impossible since the phone doesn't have Java.
      If there is half of the reason I am really disappointed about iPhone is the insanely closed manner of it. Opera 9.5 mobile will really rock on my Symbian device considering 8.65, 2 years old works damn fine even including Digg.
  • bungle8, on 06/12/2008, -1/+42+1 for standards compliant and modern browser. Although I use FF myself, I am more than happy to see a competition between GOOD web browsers! If only we could kill IE....(web developers' wet dream)
    • VerdantLuke, on 06/12/2008, -4/+5or get Microsoft to update it.... oh wait, they are.... I don't like the IE experience, but with 7 and 8 coming, it is just another browser that follows most standards, i am all for competition, so no, i don't think it should die!
      • specialK16, on 06/12/2008, -0/+1I bet you missed the screenshot of the ACID3 test someone here made with IE7. It was, to put nicely, disastrous.
        • DarkShroud, on 06/14/2008, -0/+1IE8 isn't so bad. IE7 is was a major jump for IE, that was 4 years late.
    • SlechtValk, on 06/12/2008, -0/+7If IE gets standards compliant it would not have to be killed IMHO... but i don't expect it to be that good in the near future...
  • bonjourmr, on 06/12/2008, -5/+72Opera is a standout browser, even if statistics say otherwise.
  • Monty7, on 06/12/2008, -12/+19Lets hope this steals the sloggy firefox markertshare=)
    • Zounas, on 06/12/2008, -1/+9First IE, then maybe the rest of the world.
      • SlechtValk, on 06/12/2008, -7/+3No first Firefox... that would be a greater honor...
    • mvent2, on 06/12/2008, -2/+13Or... how about IE? Then maybe Opera can achieve some actual growth...
    • lilmoder, on 06/12/2008, -0/+1What IE?
  • jydesign, on 06/12/2008, -3/+19Nice new UI look, 'Opera Link' is an interesting new aspect. Opera is the best option on Mac for a true "Full Screen" mode browser as well.
  • RevoltPT, on 06/12/2008, -2/+8Yey! Finally I can edit my own blog posts with Opera since the problems with TinyMCE seem to be fixed :)
  • bonjourmr, on 06/12/2008, -2/+40The scrolling is the best I've seen!
    • bjorna, on 06/12/2008, -2/+2no it's not, in fact it's the only thing keeping me from using opera on my macbook. Scrolling on a mac with two fingerscrolling isn't as smooth as say safari. unless they fix that I'll keep using safari.

      If they DO fix it, I'll switch right away, love everything else about the new browser :D
      • johnnysaucepn, on 06/12/2008, -1/+1Tools | Preferences | Advanced | Browsing | Smooth Scrolling off. At least, that's the Windows menu version, I'm sure you can find the Mac equivalent!
      • SupaFurry, on 06/24/2008, -0/+1No, bjorna is right - there is no option to turn on smooth scrolling in OS X Opera 9.5.

        I suspect it defaults to whatever is set in OSX's System Preferences > Appearence. With smooth scrolling turned on there, however, it still scrolls jerkily with the two-fingererd scroll on the trackpad.

        I'd like a fix - but since I love Opera to death it's not enough to stop me using it.
    • HigherLogic, on 06/12/2008, -0/+1The scrolling is wonderful in Opera, what takes me 3 scrolls in Opera takes me 6 in Firefox.
      • Rowanw, on 06/13/2008, -1/+1That's probably because Firefox obeys the OS settings for number of lines to scroll with the wheel.
        • TheSmiddy, on 06/19/2008, -0/+1or because opera detects when you rapidly scroll you want more lines, if i rapidly scroll 3 times i dont want it to go exactly 52 lines down the page, i want it to go 100 lines.
    • itsmikey, on 06/12/2008, -0/+1I can't browse the internets on my Macbook with anything other than Safari because the scrolling is so smoooooth.
  • RyomaNagare, on 06/12/2008, -4/+25Huge Opera fan here, good to know they finally released, the latest beta, and release candidate were really stable In my opinion.
    Wish they wouldn't have rushed it though, the testing builds have been stuck at 83% on acid3 forever now.
    About extensibility, Opera's got quite a bit of extensibility, you can download widget create custom searches, add custom webpanels, and also there are a fair bit of custom JS addons.
    finally but not least, feature wise opera is light years ahead of firefox, everything is integrated and well thought. unlike having to fetch 5 different extensions, that might or might not work on firefox.
    • johnnysaucepn, on 06/12/2008, -1/+14The Acid3 pass code wasn't ever going to make it into 9.5 - the changes needed to pass Acid3 just break too many real-world sites right now. They need to do a LOT of regression testing before including that. Wait for the snapshot releases of v10, Peregrine.
      • struds, on 06/12/2008, -1/+10Mmm peregrine is going to be so hot! 9.5 was only meant as an interim release as far as i remember.
        They had the acid 3 test at 100% in some internal builds, so you could well be right.

        Ohh you've got me excited about peregrine now, and 9.5 has only been out a day!
        • johnnysaucepn, on 06/12/2008, -0/+9I only wish other browsers could catch up with features that Opera have put into 9.5, like SVG background images on elements. Many, many possibilities...
  • springlake04, on 06/12/2008, -12/+52What each web browser runs like! ---

    I.E. - A Ford Pinto "like crap"
    FireFox - good! but simply a large Tank "a 110 pounds every plug-in added'
    Safari - Kia - Sepia "crank windows and not enough features
    Opera - A Lexus "a smooth ride with plenty of features in it's stock model!!!!
    • skidzilla, on 06/12/2008, -1/+13I always thought IE was more like a rusty old three-wheeled car with all the doors falling off, and a bad driver at the wheel. It still gets you where you want to go, but you hate sitting in the passenger seat. :P
      • KyleGoetz, on 06/12/2008, -0/+11You forgot:
        With a warped windshield so that everything you look at through it is not what you ought to be seeing.
    • Fergy, on 06/12/2008, -4/+10What each web browser runs like in a traffic jam:
      - IE heavy car (sorry you are stuck)
      - Firefox any kind of motorbike (jeeh for extensions)
      - Safari fast scooter(it's fast but that's the only thing it is good for)
      - Opera special prototype motorbike
    • coheedcollapse, on 06/12/2008, -6/+6You decide how firefox runs. I have only four extensions (adblock, del.icio.us, forecastfox, and youtube comment snob) and it runs just as fast as Opera does for me (if not faster). Firefox can literally be that speedy motorbike with no extra frills all the way up to a tank ready to handle literally anything that the web can throw at it. That's why I like firefox. Opera has some really interesting stuff going for it, but every time I try to switch over (and I've done it many times...), I end up coming back to firefox.
      • Dongvid, on 06/12/2008, -2/+3The speed difference between Firefox without extensions and Opera 9.5 is enormous. It's a blow out. There's no comparison.

        The only reason I ever boot up Firefox is for the occasional website that doesn't render properly (and they usually do, despite warnings) and to use DownThemAll and get everything I need for my courses ahead of time.
      • iMyst, on 06/12/2008, -1/+3Except Opera's UI is so much more intuitive and even the parts that aren't you can change easily. FF it took 8 extensions to get it to how I like to browse which Opera can do out of the box.

        (and half the extensions out there are poorly coded)
    • vawksel, on 06/12/2008, -0/+3Opera - A Lexus operating only on Premium gas. The problem is, the web is not running premium and thus doesn't render broken HTML/JS as well as Firefox/IE/Safari does.

      My _main_ site that I use for work has major broken functionality under Opera 9.5 (37 Signals' Campfire Now).
    • jwoulf, on 06/12/2008, -0/+2I love my old tank.....


      *drives a big diesel IRL.
    • tama00, on 06/13/2008, -0/+3actually i remember when firefox was known as the light alternative to the mozilla browser.

      Whatever happened to those days...
  • Inorix, on 06/12/2008, -4/+17Love quick find, god bless Opera! ;]
    • specialK16, on 06/12/2008, -0/+1I love quickfind as well. Only problem is that since Firefox 3 has a similar feature, and I've been using FF3 for the last 3 months at work, all the bookmarks and websites that I've used for work (and they are, believe me, a lot) aren't here. I'll start over I guess :p
      • johnnysaucepn, on 06/12/2008, -0/+1The Opera one is more advanced, in that it indexes the content of the pages as well as the titles and URLs. Surely you can import your bookmarks from FF? Been a while since I tried it though...
  • dan1el, on 06/12/2008, -4/+11Well, I don't think they have rushed it. It's been two years since 9.0, and one year since the very first 9.5 alpha.

    However, there are still things to fix out there, but that goes for all browsers....
    • mrynit, on 06/12/2008, -1/+5there were many in between official releases in between 9.0 and 9.5; 9.1x and 9.2x.
  • sonusandhu, on 06/12/2008, -5/+22FANTASTIC.....
  • qbthemc, on 06/12/2008, -39/+6FireFox 3-FTW
  • fegul, on 06/12/2008, -1/+10Wow, this is a little annoying just because I thought 9.5 final was never going to be released and I got impatient last night and installed the beta and changed a bunch of settings and all that. Time to do another clean install (At least Opera link helps with the bookmarks)
    • Zounas, on 06/12/2008, -1/+10Um, it keeps all the settings. I installed over my 9.5 Beta and continued browsing all the dozen of tabs I had open, kept everything.
      • johnnysaucepn, on 06/12/2008, -0/+3It's not recommended to install finals over betas - I think that's what he was referring to. If the tweaks made in the snapshot aren't 100% compatible with final, you can get problems.

      • fegul, on 06/12/2008, -0/+4Usually I prefer to do clean installs when going from a beta to a final version (habit I guess)
    • HigherLogic, on 06/12/2008, -0/+1Yeah, everything will remain in place. You're actually supposed to uninstall any betas you have. Once you remove all instances of Opera from your computer, then install the final 9.5 version, all of your settings will still be there since Opera doesn't delete some files after an uninstall.
  • elbekko, on 06/12/2008, -16/+10Not bad, but I can't say it's faster than FF3. Seems to be a bit slower on Gmail, even.
    • ortucis, on 06/12/2008, -4/+10Works faster than FF3 on Gmail for me.
  • Narishma, on 06/12/2008, -3/+13Is there something like adblock for opera?
  • mrynit, on 06/12/2008, -2/+6to get the latest build stapshots and follow the opera desktop team go here http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/
    I use the RSS feed to get the newest builds when they come out.
  • aladrin, on 06/12/2008, -3/+9I've been using 9.5 beta on Linux for a while, and it's been nice. Much improved over 9.0. Glad to see this is released.

    (For the record I also use FF3 as well, though.)
    • mcmlxxii, on 06/12/2008, -0/+2Opera have a Linux 64 bit version available for download direct from the site too. Nice.
  • tuxzsh, on 06/12/2008, -31/+6Firefox 3 RC 3 FTW!!!!
  • Sokkratez, on 06/12/2008, -3/+33I love Opera. Syncing and Speed Dial is awesome :)
  • RyomaNagare, on 06/12/2008, -3/+10Oh i'm waiting trust me, As a former pc users, now switched to mac, one of the best things about kestrel, is how similar the experience has become in mac and pc, back in 9.2, mac version was awful took about a minute to boot, was slow, and full of bugs, still as the fanboy that I am, I sticked with it, how can I change to anything else now that instead of sucking its pure crystalized awesome.

    Peregrin should include hardware accelerated rendering right?
  • kyleabaker, on 06/12/2008, -2/+9Been following Opera 9.5 all through the snapshots and it's great! The new skin is great, but if like bright skins a little more than dark ones then you can still use the new skin with brighter tabs:
    http://kyleabaker.com/goodies/opera/skins/#my-oper ...

    Go Opera!
    • venir, on 06/12/2008, -0/+2Thanks for posting this. I really like the light skin.
  • nephilimx, on 06/12/2008, -2/+8Status bar inside address bar looks really great, showing the ip code of whats loading picture/flash wise and speed. Clever feature then just having that room down the bottom wasted.
  • eNiX, on 06/12/2008, -13/+5just tried it out and it just seems slower still then FF3 and for some reason it also feels more cluttered.
  • arkansaw, on 06/12/2008, -3/+7Btw, I know some pple don't like the new skin, fair enough. Maybe the developers would do well to learn not to scrap default skins that have been around for some time and are used by many existing users. =|

    courtesy of Tamil:
    those who want the old Windows Classic skin check this out http://my.opera.com/Tamil/blog/opera-faq#80
    • unruled, on 06/12/2008, -0/+2you can install the old skin using the built in skin downloader :)
      I recommend checking the top rated ones
  • commentbot, on 06/12/2008, -2/+26Perfect timing! Right before Firefox new release next week :)
    Opera for the win! :)
    • veggen, on 06/13/2008, -1/+1Ummm... they rushed its release because of Firefox and now we have a browser with more bugs than the latest beta had... Great move.
  • ma9o0, on 06/12/2008, -18/+1POP3 mail accounts is removed from Opera Free. This is one of the best features not found in FF. Can we have it back?
    • lachlanhunt, on 06/12/2008, -3/+10ma9o0, what? I don't understand what you mean. Opera didn't drop support for POP3. And what do you mean by "Opera Free"
    • arkansaw, on 06/12/2008, -2/+7Looks like many people do live in caves after all. *sighs*
    • struds, on 06/12/2008, -2/+10um, opera stopped charging for it's desktop browser umm jeese version 7 i think it was maybe 8, can't remember. But even then it was fully featured, just had an add bar at the top.

      Are you maybe refering to opera mobile maybe?

      /confused
  • itskrishnan, on 06/12/2008, -4/+18Download friends you will love it, and spread the word.
    • rockefeller2, on 06/12/2008, -0/+2I hate Friends. Who's that guy who looks like a horse? Joey?
  • chichiMi5, on 06/12/2008, -10/+4I havent even had it for a whole 10mins and its crashed already.
    Nice theme though.
    • Terr01, on 06/12/2008, -0/+3Crashed already?

      Somebody get this man a memtest86+ boot disk.
      • ComplexBlue, on 06/12/2008, -0/+1Actually, mine crashed too. And within the first ten minutes too. It's been grand since then though. I really like this version. I had just gone back to FF but probably will end up using Opera again!
      • Fergy, on 06/12/2008, -0/+1Sure, his corrupt memory only affects Opera.
  • MrViklund, on 06/12/2008, -30/+7Good for them. But no one is using Opera.

    Get Firefox instead.
    http://firefox.com/
    • novemberdobby, on 06/12/2008, -7/+9***** you.
    • ComplexBlue, on 06/12/2008, -2/+13So if no one uses something, it means it shouldn't be used? Your logic hurts me :(
    • SlechtValk, on 06/12/2008, -0/+4I did not know i was called "no one" and that a lot of my friends are "no ones" to...
    • palta38, on 06/12/2008, -1/+8"Good for them. But no one is using Opera."

      then we should use IE cause is what most people use *sighs*
    • OSuX, on 06/12/2008, -1/+3Just for that I downloaded Opera from 3 locations.
      • Fergy, on 06/12/2008, -0/+3With the goal of... increasing costs for Opera?
    • wannarto, on 06/13/2008, -0/+0No one uses Opera because most people are morons. So we need to educate them.
      Use Opera!
  • RADicalSatDude, on 06/12/2008, -2/+3Need Opera Portable / USB for work. Sadly we have to wait for that.
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