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- mwales, on 10/12/2007, -0/+24Earlier today at work I was talking to a co-worker about the recent article I read where Microsoft said OpenOffice.org is about 10 years behind them.
Right about then I tried to open a document for review that was created on Word 2001 (i think) with Word 2003, and it could not open it. Didn't tell me it was corrupt (and try to repair it) either. Still opened up fine in 2001 though. I can't believe people still update to the latest version of Office. I can really honestly say that I don't see much difference in what they have done in the past 5-10 years. Sure, they move all the menus around every once in a while, reskin the GUI, remove a thing or two you might have actually used, and replace it with something you surely won't use, and then call it new and improved. But for most part, it's the same interface I've been staring at for years.
Anyone have a link as to what has been improved with each release of Office? Not just the typical useless ***** like it's faster, more reliable, better than last years, etc. What features did they actually add? - undauntedspirit, on 10/12/2007, -3/+20But since you asked, here's a direct link...
http://mirrors.isc.org/pub/openoffice/stable/2.0.2/OOo_2.0.2_Win32Intel_install.exe - ciscosurfing, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10Open Office is an excellent replacement to MSFT's suite of apps. I've used it for 4 years and don't have any trouble opening any document created using Word or Excel, et al. Open source software is a great alternative for anyone wanting to save some dough -- remember, Open Source = free. I have to say the quality for OO is just as good if not better than the aforementioned products. Give it a try, see how you like it. If you're still boggled why so many praise OO's suite of apps, you can always go back.
- davidemm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9Was kind of tricky to find:
http://development.openoffice.org/releases/2.0.2rc4.html - drbroccoli, on 10/12/2007, -8/+16And Microsoft's response "We've pushed ahead in recent days, and we can safely that it is still 10 years behind us, especially in the fields of pointless features we never use and a poor user interface"
- DigeratiPrime, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8you might also like
http://fileforum.betanews.com/
http://www.softpedia.com/
http://www.filepedia.com/ - TomFoolery, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8I went ahead and made a torrent of the file. I checked the md5, so all is well, of course you should do the same. Please seed and turn on DHT. Thanks.
http://box.org/torrents/OOo_2.0.2_Win32Intel_install.exe.torrent - SmeRndmGy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9Nice. Anyone know what if anything the difference between this and the previous version are? Openoffice is great, and i definitely prefer it over MS office.
- phpirate, on 10/12/2007, -8/+15Does this fix the 10 years behind bug?
- undauntedspirit, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7It's working for me. I don't think I like this new mod system.... I mean you ask a question and get modded -2??? Lame people on this site.
- mdshort, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8I believe that in secret that paperclip is somehow plotting against me. It tries to act all innocent, trying to help and telling me at times when to save... but the truth in the matter is that that paperclip is evil. Its to late to do anything about it, hes infected most systems around the world, protect yourselves, they will soon strike.
Don't get bent out of shape. - ramsinks.com, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5I always recommed this to clients that don't need to waste 200 bucks for Word, Excel and Powerpoint. If they need Pub or Outlook - I recommed buying those as a seperate product.
Making shortcuts and educating is always worth money - and they still save big time.
I get any OS or Office suite for free - however I only use OOo. - snapya, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6I absolutly love OOo because it is so much better and cleaner than microshaft word and it is FREE! The only thing missing from OOo is the word art function but i can live without it.
- macewan, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5I've been using OpenOffice.org at work for about two years. Both for word processing and the spreadsheet. Even though it is/was slower on start than abiword & gnumeric it does handle the current spreadsheets that are in use & it saves without problem to Word format for the winders folks in the organization. The exort to .pdf feature is used all the time also.
This article worth the digg. OpenOffice.org 2 is worth the download. - strcmp, on 10/12/2007, -0/+41. OOo has been ported to OS X, but X11 is required.
2. NeoOffice is a port that does not require X11, but it is behind OOo and very slow.
3. NeoOffice will not run on Intel macs (not even through Rosetta) until they catch up to 2.0, which will take quite a while. OpenOffice.org will run on Intel macs. - Azmodan, on 10/12/2007, -6/+10"How about a link for a real OS? Aka Linux."
Because if you use Linux, you apt-get your software or similar and if you compile them, you are smart enough to find the sources. - veruus, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6Spell check is an abomination. Even an online dictionary would be better. Spell check isn't going to be able to teach them the difference between "hear" and "here", or "your" and "you're".
We have a responsibility to be intelligent and I worry that we're going to keep offloading that responsibility with our children as technology makes advances. Yeah, I think we should still be teaching how to use slide rules too. They're a great tool. They take an abstract concept (numbers) and let you visualize it in a more meaningful way. It takes understanding. The only thing you have to understand about using a calculator it what buttons to push. Concepts (to include spelling and grammar) should be learned the hard way. When you're out of school and knee deep in having to do real work, then you should be able to use the tools.
Sorry for the rant. It's not directed at you, so don't be offended.
/me clicks the "Check Spelling" button... ;) - antdude, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Or just go to http://mirrors.isc.org/pub/openoffice/stable/2.0.2/ for the rest of the OS'. I will install them once they are officially in public on Web site.
- JudgeDredd, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Awesome. I love this program that is a decade behind according to MS. On a side note, MS is going to send me a legit copy of Office for watching some propoganda and reviewing it. Oh, they are also sending me a USB drive for some reason or other. Can't remember why and don't really care. Oh, then there is the Vista versions I get...
OO - Petronski, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3My experience is different. I've used Open Office to spell check an entire novel and aside from the French words, Open Office did a great job. Nothing missed.
- antdude, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Not that I know of. I never saw one before. :(
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Is there anyway to get an update instead of redownloading the whole thing?
- Petronski, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5I'd too would like to know what has changed since 2.0.0 but I can't find it anywhere.
- Rounin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Because Softpedia posts software that contains malware.
http://www.siteadvisor.com/sites/softpedia.com?safe - xtracto, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2You do not have to download this revision updates, personally I just download updates when they make mayor changes (version number changes from X.Y to X.Y+1) other updates are just bugfixes.
- Vortech89, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I'd rather not upgrade until it's released on their website.
If you try accessing http://download.openoffice.org/2.0.2/ it says it's still being prepared. - Chris_F, on 10/12/2007, -9/+11Gotta love the paper clip.
- Inphormatika, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I love OO, but until they make it quite a bit faster, I don't see it becoming mainstream. Unfortunate, because it really is a good suite of tools.
- Niteryder, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3well, until I see it officially released, I am not touching it.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Isn't this the version where they are supposed to add support for compiling in x86_64?
- computerdan000, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1It's on the website now: http://download.openoffice.org/2.0.2/index.html
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4does it support MS Office 12's .docx format?
- sn0wflake, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Get a better Internet connection or stop downloading every single release candidate. Heck, my connection speed is 2 MB and I didn't download a single release candidate because I didn't have to.
- bfkennedy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1One of the mirrors had the OOo202 installation iso posted in May:
http://mirrors.isc.org/pub/openoffice/contrib/iso/en/ooo_202_allplatforms_20060504_install.iso - aliguana, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2dammit, I only downloaded rc4 yesterday. All these OOo updates are killing my bandwidth! They realllly need to sort out some kind of Firefox "only update the bits that need updating" scheme
- Petronski, on 10/12/2007, -4/+5I can't figure out how to turn on the paperclip in Open Office. Does anyone know how? I can't write a letter without help from Clippy and, frankly, I miss him.
end(sarcasm) - DeMarko, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4How much should we trust a hippo as a source? What are his (or her) credentials? Is he (or she) an authority on the open source community? I much rather trust a penguin
- eklitzke, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1AFAIK, a native port of OpenOffice.org to OS X doesn't exist. NeoOffice is an unofficial port to OS X, but it is probably a few versions behind mainstream.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1No, you can just overwrite it. I just did, and it retains almost all my settings (except the "how much memory per object" thingy and things like that).
I must say, the new themes are awesome! And OOo feels quite a bit faster too. However, I don't have that Java crap installed, so maybe that's why. But it boots up in < 3 seconds on a fairly modest PC (P4 2.6 GHz, 512MB RAM). Before it used to take 5~6 seconds. I love OOo. :-) - SoundFriend, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Try this guide to Charting using Calc:
http://searchopensource.techtarget.com/tip/1,289483,sid39_gci1171394,00.html
SF - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Is there a real update system for this, or do you have to uninstall and reinstall each time?
- jgclark123, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1http://www.softpedia.com is marked as yellow by SiteAdvisor. I'm not sure why; I get files from them all the time. I love the design, and the 100% Spyware Free button-thingy is quite helpful.
- housemaister, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0austinbond probably meant the X11 version. NeoOffice/J is built upon oo version 1.1.5
I haven't seen any 2.0.2 build for OS X X11 yet. :-( - orangeRam, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1No its not. The homepage dl link is for 2.0.1, not yet 2.0.2
- geeke, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Yea, wish they start doing like FF and only updating bits that need updating. 90 mbs each time new version is alot to download if you have a slow slow modem or your FAP a month is very small. Lets see 2.0.2 R1-R4 and even the final update say you downloaded them all in a month that's 450 mbs. Well 19 hours to go until 2.0.2 is done UGH.
- w0mbat, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0You're right, it's a classic case of companies having to upgrade just to get the latest file format. Surely there's no business case for upgrading MSOrifice for the new features? If someone could make an automatic converter to and from the latest file format that might help.
I understand that MS are having to put a supposedly "Open" document format into MSO 11 as council and government organisations in some countries are bringing in legislation to insist on open formats - presumably so they don't get trapped into upgrade cycles, but also so that files stand a chance of being reaadable in 10, 20 or 100 years time.
The file format issue as well as the bundling with new PCs is what keeps MS their stranglehold position. - betona, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2No offense taken, veruus. Trust me - we pound in spelling and *especially* math without a calculator.
- sublimethinker, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I installed and used it last night. The only thing I noticed is that the Bibliography Database feature now appears to be working -- previously you couldn't insert records, but that feature works now. I assume there are also minor bug fixes as well.
- betona, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2The spell check seems to be weak in Open Office. My kids bang out their school reports in it on their machines and run spell check. Then they e-mail it to my machine and re-run a spell check in MS Word and we always find some very obvious mistakes that you'd think any basic spell checker would find.
- bfkennedy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0Anyone know if there is an active link for the iso images? OOo 2.0.1 isos are all I could find.....
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