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- ThugEsquire, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6In case anybody wants to actually see some pics of Office 2007:
http://www.microsoft.com/office/preview/uioverview.mspx
I think they went a little heavy on the brushed metal and gradients. The interface doesn't look clean at all, even though it may be organised somewhat more intuitively. Then again, Microsoft's been moving away from "clean and flat" and going towards "shiny and ugly" for awhile now. *****, Office 2007 doesn't even look like it's Web 2.0. - protagonist10, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Ive worked on it for a bit now and it feels odd.
The only drop down menu is the file menu.
The top is tabbed like firefox. I only ever used the write tab and maybe the layout tab before printing. My only hope is that more tabs can be added on after market.
The + in the top right of each box opens the 'dialog' for that box. ie if you need more font options, you click the + in the font box and you get the front window that opens when you normally edit fonts in 03. These menus at the top feel like a waste of space (thats why there are drop down menus anyway, to get more usable room) and i am on a widescreen monitor. They need the option to move the menus (which are locked) to the sides.
No hope of any backward compatibility (standard save is .docx instead of .doc).
The right click menu has a small font/justification box above the normal menu.
Word 2007 feels like an excuse to justify your new comp to your boss. A blank word doc on my comp takes 52,112k of memory. (For comparison, photoshop cs2 takes about 64 and word 2003 takes 10).
Excel 07 has the same layout hang-ups for my monitory size.
A blank excel 07 page took 7,920k memory
It has sheet, insert, page layout, formulas, data, and review tabs
I costed out a restaurant's entire menu (60 sheets of recipes and 3 sheets of inventory all cross references to hell) and i only used the sheet tab. actually, of the boxes on the sheet tab (clipboard, font, alignment, number, quick formatting, cells, and editing) i mainly right clicked and used that menu. its the same as what’s above and i didn’t lose my place on the sheet.
Publisher 07
A blank page took about 12 meg memory.
Haven’t gotten a chance to mess around much but it does use the sides of a widescreen best. My version does not have tabs but instead has a side bar like the xp common tasks bar you find in folders.
My personal verdict is that unless you really need a whole 1/8th of your screen dedicated to buttons don’t drop the cash. But if you really need to have all your font options available at all times and you can write off the cost then go for it. - adizzy615, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3To all the people who claim to have the ability to figure out how a product works just from a screen shot, do your self a favor and watch a video introduction at http://channel9.msdn.com/Showpost.aspx?postid=114720. Yeah, its from September of last year.
No digg. - cmorrell, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Apple has a bunch of really great designers on their team that tend to be ahead of the curve when it comes to user interface design. That doesn't necessarily mean that Microsoft is copying OS X's style so much as they're catching up with Apple in terms of modern (as in current) software look and feel. People tend to respond well to the brushed metal/glossy plastic look right now, and Microsoft is reacting to that trend.
And it'll probably continue this way. Apple prides itself on beautiful, clean design and is in a position to innovate much quicker than Microsoft ever will be able to. When people start leaning towards a new look (nature-based heavy textures, clearly), Apple will be right there with them. When that look takes hold Microsoft will adopt it. - tolkein, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Office 2007 Beta-1 download instructions and product keys have been leaked on VistaUltimate - http://www.vistaultimate.com/office_2007_beta.htm
- MOGua, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Direct link: http://www.microsoft.com/office/preview/Figure1.htm
- spathe, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"In reference to http://www.microsoft.com/office/preview/suites.mspx ... why doesn't the Enterprise include everything? :("
Because they don't need "Business Contact Manager" with the other apps. Don't tell me that Open Office is better, because you don't even know what the second half of the Office suite is about and you probably only know or use a very small percent of the first half. - znutz, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3here's a torrent:
http://www.torrentspy.com/torrent/543709/Microsoft_Office_12_Suite_Enterprise_Edition_prerelease_Serial - anderiv, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@arewhyfour:
Business Contact Manager doesn't work when you're connecting to Exchange...They're assumming that people who purchase the Enterprise version will be using Outlook in conjunction with Exchange and hence, don't include the BCM. - snowboarder, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1why are you people complaining about the gradient colors? you can change that to meet your every desire... i sware someone will always find something wrong with something... open office works for me though...
- Sandwiches_Time, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1This is developing into a major problem behind the basic concept of Digg. I'd guess at least half of the links don't work by the time they get to the main page.
- machx, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Doesn't anybody find it ironic that they are essentially mimicing the brushed metal interface that some Mac users really don't like and are moving away from to the Unified look / Dark Unified Look? Geeze MS if your gonna mimic Mac OS X at least mimic the good parts of it!
- Wagnel, on 10/12/2007, -0/+17 versions of vista...7 versions of office
http://www.microsoft.com/office/preview/suites.mspx - mpeters13, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Wow then... I must be the only one looking forward to this version of office. No more hunting for features, added functionality, the ability to preview changes w/o actually making them. This brings the potential for great documents. Oh wait... people hate it b/c it's Microsoft. (gah and this is coming from an apple fanboy)
- SuperGillies, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1To everyone who is accusing Microsoft of ripping off Apple -
Microsoft have completely redesigned the UI. This is not copying - no one has really done this before.
IMHO it makes it far quicker/easier to do stuff. Who really cares if it looks ugly, is that really the point of an office suite? The point is to make it easier to create documents.
And to whoever said they'd have people calling them up to ask how to insert a table - you click insert. then you click table. thats it. - rhyno2000, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Dynamo fool, if you actually read oh... say, one paragraph - anywhere - about the new Office suite, you'd actually understand (maybe) that one of the major changes was context-sensitive menus designed to provide more relevant assistance when creating a document. That sounded like a shill, but I'm merely explaining what's going on.
They could've simply added more useless "features" and buried them under the massive nested menus. I gotta give a few props for at least taking a fresh approach.
You can always download OpenOffice for your book reports. - Happysin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1You've got to be kidding me. This is possibly the first compelling and GOOD interface change Office has had since Office 2000. You all are way to focused on the color scheme. Go to Microsoft's video blogs (the link escapes me, perhaps someone nice will grab it) and look as people using the new interface. You will notice that everyone has different color schemes.
The ribbon and live previews are wonderful. - modian, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0weiran: It looks like "Groove" is the new group collaboration software.
- TargetDigg, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I read somewhere that they have finally greatly increased the maximum size of excel, that will be nice.
So, do I need to swear and hate Microsoft to fit in? - dw2005, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"Let Microshaft keep their things compatible with their own crap and see where it will take them."
Office 2007 will have native PDF support and all of the documents created in it will be in an open xml format - Happysin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0cmorrell has the truth of it, except that Microsoft has a large research lab of usability engineers that do what Apple does, but they look to pure functionality over looks. They have quite a few published papers on the matter at http://research.microsoft.com/ if anyone is interested in usability research.
MS may (will) never win the looks race, but they are always on top of looking for ways to make software more functional. - modifiy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"The day I can download a nearly carbon copy for free is the day I pay for Windows Office.....oh wait I'm in the process of changing my entire school over to open office and saving each department 8k."
So by what you said your now going to be paying for windows office. Open office is great for being free. Would I put it into any business environment? No. It's way to slow and clunky especially with spread sheets. - JayWright, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I just REALLY hope they got rid of that ***** OFFICE ASSISTANT. I cant tell you how many computers I have had to uninstall that bitch off of here at work... besides, it's sooo ***** lame
- TarryTops, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Yikes!
- peregrine, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0The day I can download a nearly carbon copy for free is the day I pay for Windows Office.....oh wait I'm in the process of changing my entire school over to open office and saving each department 8k.
Oops.
~ - Mesach, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Did they bring back the ability to lock the damn taskbars?!
- Amplix, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0down already
- exlaval, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Where's the beef
the WHOLE beta 12 has been out there for a while now
IT SUCKS - Now that half the planet has gotten used to the old WORD - they "invented" the RIBBON
thing - what a crock - NO ONE will pay money for this - drtyfrnk, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Do we have a mirror yet on this?
- ThugEsquire, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0and lol @ myself for pluralising "question" above
- xerox, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0i dont like it.
- dougr33d, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I can't be the only person that thinks that looks disgusting.
- strictnein, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Here you go Singee15: M!cr0$0ft
- Petronski, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0All of this context sensitive stuff is very bad for productivity, because power users know where features are and have memorized how to get to them. If it keeps moving around or disappearing, it just disrupts the flow of work.
They'd better leave a way to turn that crap off. - weiran, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Whats Groove?
- diargasm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I already downloaded that months ago. Very simple menu navigation and editing features.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0In reference to http://www.microsoft.com/office/preview/suites.mspx ... why doesn't the Enterprise include everything? :(
- kybrown17, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"Can you say OS X? They don't even hide their plagiarism anymore..."
Copying is the highest form of flattery, right? It just goes to show that the brushed metal and aqua concepts are cool little things that people like. - esellerauction, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0digg, dugg, dead
- LoungeActx, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0wow...i'm a mac guy...but i gotta hand it to microsoft. the office screen shots look really nice. much better than IE7...i could ***** on a computer monitor and it would look nicer than the IE7 beta preview....
- orangeRam, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0context sensitive menus...great, I can't wait until my firm upgrades and I have to field hundreds of emails from n00bs crying how they can't figure out how to insert a table
- gregmontalbano, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0@weiran-OneNote, sharing projects with people "far away", multiuser colaboration, etc....
- Petronski, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0QettoE said:
"Winblows Vista will ship with choice of $haft (original theme), K$E and $nome."
Shouldn't that be Winblow$ Vi$ta? - babyseal, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0We as a society are creatures of habit. Just because something is different, doesn't make it worse. Its just not what you're used to.
- babbling, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Can everyone please stop pointing out the flaws in this? The more the flaws are pointed out, the more likely it is they will be fixed before it is released.
If they release this as-is, OpenOffice will replace it almost everywhere. Microsoft are in the most vulnerable position they've been in for over a decade at the moment, and they're making lots of mistakes. It's exciting to watch the giant falling. - hadem, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Looks like Mac.
- MindTrigger, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0@babyseal
No, it actually sucks in my opinion. I know it probably pains you to think that maybe not all open source software is good, but it's true. I think it's a great start, and I support the program, but that doesn't make the software better than office. If "free" is your only criteria for an office suite, then go for it. - mr.hostility, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1How is it retro? You're a ***** idiot.
Interface is actually quite good, but yeah it does look a little mac'ish. Nothing wrong with that, imo. - QettoE, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"I think it's a great start, and I support the program, but that doesn't make the software better than office. If "free" is your only criteria for an office suite, then go for it."
I agree. However (talking about myself) since I can't afford to spend a forutne on Office Pro and I'm also quite tired of pirating, I switched to open source and use Linux and Open Office. I don't think anyone can dispute the power of M$ Office but Open Office is not awefully behind IMHO. - MindTrigger, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Yeah, for some weird reason I just don't have an issue with paying for good software. I'm kinda weird like that.
Yes, clunky is a good word for OpenOffice. I'm down with OSS apps, but I have no problem calling ***** when an OSS app sucks. Rather than install Office 2003 at home during my last gaming machine rebuild, I decided to give OpenOffice and honest try. We didn't install MS Office so we would be forced to experience OpenOffice.
Honestly, it just sucks. Slow, confounded, bloated, clunky, you name it. My kid tried to use it for 3 major school reports this year, and the layout tools were garbage.
I'll keep an eye on it because I would like to see it succeed. It has a way to go before it will compete head to head with MS Office though. -
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