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- kingace, on 10/12/2007, -2/+28Looks kinda exactly the same to me...
- behn1220, on 10/12/2007, -5/+30Ahh...but notice the upgraded gradients! Its so "Web 2.0"!! Bleh...
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -5/+17"It has a glossy title bar and soft keys and will feature Vista-esque folder icons etc."
Wow. Microsoft is awesome!
Other than a screen shot and some extremely vague information ("Knook has also commented that Crossbow will have strong links with Office 2007 and Exchange 12"), what merit does this article have? - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9Your going to need to add a 512meg video card to your smart phone for the areo glass feature haha
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9Am I the only one who misses the subnotebooks running CE 3.0? I like the Windows desktop look better then a PDA look.
- andrebsd, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Now prove to me that's not a theme. My Treo 700W also has a glossy look so that shot proves nothing. It can just be WM5 with a theme and the story has very vague info.
- Asbradley21, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Looks like a skin using Wisbar and an Icon theme using Icon XT.
- paulmdx, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6"Pieter Knook, a Microsoft Sr. VP, has commented that Microsoft plan to release an upgrade to their mobile platform yearly which is interesting and could mean a new OS with every yearly upgrade for pay monthly contracts."
That would be nice. Shame my provider can't even be bothered to roll up an AKU upgrade... My suspicion is providers won't have the technical know-how to maintain a lot of phones with frequent upgrades. Oh, and let's not forget they want you to buy a newer phone. :-) - kaplanfx, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5It does look suspiciously like the current version of WM5 with a nicer theme and some new homescreen icons.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5*****. Marked as such.
All this is is the Vista Theme for WM5. It became available months ago, so not only this fake, but the theme is old news. - eilorux, on 10/12/2007, -4/+8The clinical color scheme; sorta glass / sorta septic makes me ill after having spent 4 months with OSX. Instead of Microsoft playing keep-up like they have been with Apple and Google, why not bring on a team, or better yet, buy an organization of designers (even if they are an apple shop) and let them do a makeover. Yes, it looks the same.
- gollo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Yeah I agree. I like the Mastercard look better myself
- zetsurin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Palm sent themselves packing.
- ahawks, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Frankly, until I can put these new fancy Windows Mobile releases on my EXISTING PocketPC hardware, I don't give a rat's ass. I didn't expect to be stuck with WM2003 when I dropped $400 on the POS. Not even *bug fixes* have been released.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Windows Mobile is still light years behind Symbian as a phone OS (used by Nokia as Series 60 and SonyEriccsson as UIQ) - it's not as crash proof, as lightweight, as flexible, as supported, as widely deployed, as well used, or just as plain good as Symbian. Windows Mobile is a bloated piece of junk in comparison. It also has a far, far smaller market share, while Symbian increases every year.
Mobile is one area where the Windows franchise won't succeed, just as mainframe operating systems didn't succeed on the PC. The problem for Microsoft is that phones are the future of computing or as Nokia like to say "It's What Computers Have Become"(TM), which is why MS are on the slide too.
And yes, I do know what I'm talking about, I run a phone software company, and design and program mobile software services. - zetsurin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2"Every one I've talked to that has a WM PDA hates the operating system. !"
Well, to be fair, it generally uses non volatile storage for data now. But the problems I have with it are:
- it's clumsy
- vga support is inconsistent
- it's slow
Never going back to it. I'd go to Symbian sooner. - pinkegobox, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2am sure it won't be long before someone makes a skin available. I don't know about you, but i've found a severe lack of decent skins for WM2005
- t3hX, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Palm OS isn't dead... far from it.
I'm waiting ALP though (next palm os) - it's Linux based!
Now that will be cool. - barnett25, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4"because Windows Mobile is heads and tails above the competition?"
Says who? Every one I've talked to that has a WM PDA hates the operating system.
Who the hell makes a PDA operating system that LOSES DATA when the battery dies?!?! - anphanax, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2It looks like the "real" changes will come after crossbow (Photon), with the integration of the Yamazaki CE 6.0 kernel.
From the mobile article at WikiPedia:
“Crossbow” (Q4 ‘06 Release to manufacturers) - Great mobile messaging - Advanced Business and Enterprise propositions - Strengthened phone experience - Faster, easier application development and distribution - Q1/Q2 ‘07 Marketing Launch
And info on the upcoming CE 6.0:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Embedded_CE_6.0 - zetsurin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2It's still functional enough for most users. I don't see the point in multitasking 10 apps at one... on my phone anyway. The only viable replacement I can find for my Treo 650 seems to be the forthcoming 680 model. My last PDA phone was Windows Mobile and I wouldn't go back ever. To make a phone call and control one or two basic functions you still have to whip out the stylus. Pathetic.
BTW, I think this new version of the OS looks quite lame and won't offer much. That's what happens when MS doesn't have anyone to copy ideas from anymore, and what 'reward' people get for fueling a monopoly. - jabbar, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2get wisbar advance and there are a lot of very nice themes to choose from
- kasted, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2huge visual improvement, can i get it on my Motorola q?
- pinkegobox, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1am sure you're right, but i can't find a link to it unfortuantely.
- tapo, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4Why did you die, PalmOS? :-(
- onwardknave, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Did anyone else read the title as "New Windows Mobile OS 'Crossbow' shoots itself in the face?"
- bdogg64, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Nice... I hope someone will make this will work on my t-mobile mda
- nofxjunkee, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Crossbow: "It's not just WM5 with a new Vista-like skin, we promise!"
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Look up 'WM5 Vista theme' (google). This is nothing more than a theme, not a knew WM version. I'll try to dig up a link to prove it...
- schestowitz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1More zombies, I guess.
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http://msmobiles.com/news.php/5474.html - msafi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1HP Jornada 720 is the best thing. Some very good people are keeping the Handheld PC form factor alive, though. You can check them out at www.hpcfactor.com
I swear I'm not a spammer, I just want to support the beautiful platform. - jarinudom, on 03/31/2008, -0/+1"Maybe if we make it look like Aqua people will like us again!"
- Ballmer - zetsurin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Not when it's locked up as it often is.
- zetsurin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I like Symbian a lot. I'm just waiting for a phone running it that I like.
- sinembarg0, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1The only reason they would want you to buy a new phone is to sign another contract, buying a phone off ebay or direct from the manufacturer has little or no benfeit for them.
- OriginalLucid1, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1HaxorJoe,
I have a Jornada 820 and would love to be able to upgrade the processor and the browser. It would be the perfect mobile internet device. Why someone doesn't make it, I dunno. - tmcc, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Believe me, Microsoft is DEFINATELY going to be telling you to install Vista instead of patching soon.
- Dogmatix, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0The CE based operating systems are capable of vastly more than any Symbian offering. Symbian uses a slick design that was necessary for reliable processing inside the constrained environment contained within a telephone. It was not designed to be a general purpose embedded operating system and in smart phones Symbian is starting to show it’s age. Symbian uses some pretty ingenious techniques and was a great telephonic operating system as it was designed to be. However, amongst its aged features are and application threading model that is relegated to using a cooperative threading model (as recommended for series 60 devices, the most deployed) as it’s true preemptive threading support is too expensive to support in general programming. On the other hand, Window CE based operating systems such as Mobile 5.0 are operating systems for computers that also happen to be telephones. The API is generally one for one with the equivalent SDK. It is rich and it is vast. Mobile 5.0 is rapidly accreting market share and Nokia is looking to embedded Linux and so Symbian is ultimately toast.
- ericmoritz, on 10/12/2007, -4/+4man, that's ugly
- Phocion55, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Are you all retarded?
Microsoft issues PATCHES to fix WinXP-related problems....not an entirely NEW OS.
That's like saying "We gotta fix a small problem with Windows XP. Instead of a 500kb patch, we'll just have people install Windows Vista."
Doesn't make sense, does it?....... - dcharti, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Uh, that screenshot doesn't display much more than a new color theme which seems arbitrarily chosen. What the hell does green have to do with the new Vista color scheme, or the previous blue scheme? For the sake of all things holy - are they actually hiring designers, or are they still having apes throw darts to make choices like this?
If this post had anything more about real changes to the OS it might be worth a digg. *Of course* it's going to have to get upgraded to work with Office 12 - one of those aforementioned apes could've told you that. For now, this just seems like WinMo spooge without any substance. - Phocion55, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1wrong thread
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -6/+6Gee, I wonder how they had the money left to develop this...
http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=2006100801442692
after funding SCO to attack Linux all these years? - fenixconnektion, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3..um
what if the new version of windows mobile fixes the problems of the old one? isn't that the whole point of introducing updated iterations of something...to fix old problems and incorporate new functionality?
think about it. - LaughingMan11, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Crossbow's visual changes amounts to little more than a skin on top of Windows Mobile 5.0.
There will be some smaller changes under the hood, but to those in the know, Crossbow is little more than Windows Mobile 5.0 AKU 4. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2LOL, another micro$oft crap, does anybody succed with using activesync via infraport with winCE or WM2003? :D Because this ***** theoretically supports, although it never work for me :///
- joe90210, on 10/12/2007, -5/+4because Windows Mobile is heads and tails above the competition?
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1Another arrow to the heart of Palm , er Palm Source ? Rosy Palm ? Pocket PC sent Palm packing. Never count out MSFT.
- ahawks, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2@FierceDietyLink
I noticed that as well. -
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