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- mdjohnson1, on 10/13/2007, -3/+48"...excited to announce that we plan to rock it" ... Really? "Rock it"? I heard that Opera may announce a plan to "Go Ape-Sh!t on the Mutha".
- akkibaba, on 10/14/2007, -10/+50Firefox Mobile? Yarr, time to solder a 1 GB RAM chip to my cellphone.
- MikeCerm, on 10/19/2007, -0/+32I'm a Firefox fanboy, but this "rock it" business is ridiculous. It will be at least 3 years before Mozilla has anything close to as usable as Opera Mobile is now.
Did you catch their development strategy? Rather than do a complete rewrite, and create a from-the-ground-up mobile browser, their plan is to... wait a few years until mobile devices are fast enough and have enough memory to run Firefox.
Not exactly rockin' it. This announcement was totally pointless. - schoate09, on 10/19/2007, -6/+29How about trying to rock the desktop web first? Like, oh I don't know, a browser under 100MB ram, or a browser that loads pages with a little speed?
- keyo, on 10/19/2007, -3/+20Sorry firefox fanboys, Opera and Webkit lead the way...
- brotherfranciz, on 10/13/2007, -1/+16"b) Opera has copied us"
Wait... what? I think Mozilla are following in the footsteps of Opera here... - fkr3, on 10/13/2007, -0/+11Would that be the add ons that already cripple computers with memory leaks and whatnot?
If you can tear a core 2 duo with a couple of gig of ram a new ass what chance does a nokia have? - Jugalator, on 10/11/2007, -0/+9Hmm, will be interesting to see how they plan to tackle Opera Mobile and Opera Mini, which are both highly present in this market ( http://www.opera.com/company/partners/mobile/ ). In the mobile market, the role of Mozilla vs Opera is reversed.
- DMXell, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10He's referring to the excessively high RAM usage of Firefox, it's been known to spike 1 GB.
- DagMX, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8 I dont think this would take off too well.
For one, firefox isn't the most memory efficient browser and memory is a huge commodity in phones.
Secondly, most smartphones usually have a really good browser preinstalled in the likes of Opera Mobile etc...
Thirdly, if they choose to do it in Java, Opera is a huge competitor to stand against as Opera probably has the best cross-platform structure.
Not to say it will fail, but I think its not really a good idea.
Also while extensions seem like a good idea, again it goes back to the memory limitations of phones. Especially on smartphones where the OS itself is so memory hungry. - Alchemeron, on 10/11/2007, -0/+8Opera copies Mozilla? You can't be serious.
- RidersOfLohan, on 10/13/2007, -0/+7Minimo is dead...
- skyshock1, on 10/19/2007, -0/+6No thanks. I already have Opera. And if the performance of their browser on the desktop is any indicator, this one will likely be a snail also.
- MikeCerm, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6Nothing's happening to MiniMo. It's going to continue to suck, as they're not working on it anymore. Of course, if you like it, you can keep using it.
- keyo, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6Opera and webkit run on Trolltechs QT, hence the speed and cross-platform. I hope Trolltech does well with their Qtopia dev platform. Webkit can hardly handdle digg on the IPod Touch I'd like to see how well mobileFox will do.
As for extensions, on the desktop opera has so many features it hardly needs them, and they do this without bloat.
Just as long as we don't see MSIE on our phones, that would suck. - markhp, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Mozilla = Mobile version of Zilla?
- DarkShroud, on 10/11/2007, -1/+6Thanks but no thanks. Opera moble & Opera Mini are the best in the mobile area. And Opera on the Wii is getting Opera's name out there while showing people they make a great product.
- c0ldfusi0n, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5Now if only mobile data rates could be decent, we'd have a future with this. I'm not paying 0.05$ per Kb.
- synagence, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5This is pretty much a lame duck of an annoucement. I suppose only problem with opera is that don't have that approaching mass-market recognition that firefox is gatherin.
I'm sure apple, opera and ms will not exactly remain stationary in the mobile browser market as they all have a vested interest TODAY in that market - Alchemeron, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Mozilla just doesn't have what it takes to compete with Opera on this platform. Spend your time and money on something you have a shot at.
- GogDog, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4Ready rock the mobile world? I wish they would make the OS X version stable. THAT would rock MY world.
- cyssero, on 04/18/2009, -0/+4I find IE7, Opera 9 and Safari noticeably faster than Firefox on Windows. I still use Firefox 99% of the time though, and I love it, but there's no denying other browsers are quite a bit snappier than Firefox.
- winmywii, on 10/13/2007, -1/+5I don't know why he is getting dugg down. Doesn't Firefox still have memory problems? The longer you leave it open the more it eats.
- chazuk, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Lets see what they can do for Series60. Opera's small screen rendering is the best at the moment on my N95.
- tnoy, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4All they have to do use utilize that awesome SDK that Apple... oh wait.
- Trax91, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3I wonder if they can create one for iPhone. It'd be great if you can do gestures with touch.
- skyshock1, on 10/11/2007, -2/+5I don't know why you're being dugg down. It hurts to say this, but if it weren't for Opera, I'd sooner use IE7 than Firefox now. *shudder*
- ilgaz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3It is a tablet in fact.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Mozilla gets A LOT of complaints about the Firefox performance and still they don't improve it. I will tell it once and for all: Mozilla you suck!
- colouredCoder, on 10/11/2007, -4/+6This is awesome news! I cant wait to see some of the Add-ons the Mozilla Community can create/port.
- ThreeDee912, on 10/11/2007, -2/+4So... What's going to happen to MiniMo?
- DarkShroud, on 10/11/2007, -2/+4You've never used Opera.
- mingistech, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2wow... i never seen so many anti-firefox posts on digg before.
- Red_Eye, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3How about finishing cleaning out the bugs from 3+ years ago in bugzilla first....
- ilgaz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Wanna bet that new Mobile Mozilla will find a reason to send your current URL to Google? For Safety!!!
- ilgaz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Opera Mini, J2ME 2.0 Application, 96 KB, yes kilobytes. Why should someone upgrade their working device/phone to cover their anarchic development scheme with zero respect to performance and memory issues?
- Metal_Hurlant, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Wasn't there a Joel on Software post on how it has historically paid off to focus on building cool apps and let the hardware catch up to your reqs, rather than invest a lot of time optimizing your footprints at the expense of your feature set?
They're probably not planning to release a mobile browser for at least a year, and by then the mobile landscape may be ready for them. - ilgaz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1On Symbian, memory leaking is unacceptable, the OS will kill your .app in a second saying KERN EXEC 3 or some low memory error. That is how they happen to sell their devices to critical markets. It won't cover their mistakes, Symbian or Trolltech Qtopia coding is hard because of that. Same goes for Java too.
- ilgaz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Symbian smartphone OS share for Q2 2007 is 72%, according to Canalys
http://www.symbian.com/about/fastfacts/fastfacts.h ...
Any word about Symbian on that page? No. As far as I know, Nokia N800 users are perfectly happy with their free Opera browser too. - Ratteler, on 10/11/2007, -2/+2/me tosses dead terrorist out window onto top of Mozilla's police car, and shoots hell out of engine hood.
"Welcome to the party!" - troydoogle7, on 10/12/2007, -11/+10Yes, lets promise loads...... and by the time that we bring it out...
a) Microsoft have copied us
b) Opera has copied us
c) People are underwhelmed because memory leak on mobile = DEATH
d) People are upset because we over promised some features and underdelivered
e) People are sad because we spin off the mobile browser into its own company (so we can forget about it) - RidersOfLohan, on 10/19/2007, -14/+13Great, now we can have memory leaks on our phones too. The guy that Mozilla hired to oversee this initiative is the guy that is basically responisible for running Openwave into the ground. I'll be sticking with Opera.
- chris9902, on 10/12/2007, -11/+9I don't won't this memory hog on my phone.
- loginname, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2Thats funny, because I'm already running a portable version of Mozilla on my Nokia N800.
http://browser.garage.maemo.org/ - DagMX, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0Is the n800 a mobile phone? No, its a PDA
- GeckoSlayer, on 10/12/2007, -6/+1Wasn't a dupe of this in the news in the last, I dunno, 2 HOURS?!
- kenvsryu, on 10/11/2007, -6/+1It took them long enough.
- DMXell, on 10/11/2007, -10/+5A little faster? Try a lot faster, it's slower than IE at the moment. Mozilla needs to drop the Gecko rendering engine and make their own.
- graealex, on 10/12/2007, -8/+2Is It Can It Be Download Tiem Now Pleez?
- Invalice, on 10/11/2007, -8/+1the mobile will limit what mozilla can do right? I'm interested to see what they will do to make it great =]
I only like using mozilla because its more intuitive than other browsers. -
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