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- GrooveXP, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7So what would you call them now, Amacrodobia?
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Macrodobe.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3From www.adobe.com's FAQ on the merger:
"Q:How long will it take to integrate Flash Player and Adobe Reader?
A:It will be a multiyear effort. Ultimately, our goal is to combine both in a single client. Combining PDF and Adobe Reader with Flash and the Flash Player will allow us to deliver a truly ubiquitous platform that sits on virtually every device. We will build on that to create compelling customer solutions."
So get ready for "Download Adobe FlashPDF - 7.6 MB on T1" buttons to pop up everywhere. - chillypepper, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2for a company that sells the best design software out there, it's site does look... subpar.
- sfgeek, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I can't wait for PDF rendering to appear in flash. I am sure that they will do it at some point and I have some insane ideas for the technology. I tried writing a PDF renderer in ActionScript once, it's damn near impossible. The PDF file format document is 1200 pages long.
- honkaform, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2i like how the picture with the guy and his cellphone has the guy holding the cell phone the wrong way. he looks delighted about it too
- cv8950, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I hope that they keep Dreamweaver. Don't like Go Live too much.
- d3designs, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2If you want you can post something on the macromedia.com site forum.
http://www.macromedia.com/cfusion/webforums/forum/index.cfm?forumid=39 - BananaWind, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I love it...
- RANDARR, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1As matter of fact, Adobe only thought they were buying Freehand when they bought Aldus. To their dismay, they found out that Aldus didn't have full claim to Freehand. The other party was able to use ownership of Freehand to build Macromedia.
- d3designs, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1It's a sad day for the industry.
Two of the biggest competitors are now one.... and knowing Adobe's very high priced, low changes upgrades... this will not be a good thing. Macromedia has always had a more "modern, cutting-edge" interface than Adobe. Macromedia's also load faster and use less resources. I own Photoshop and the Studio MX2004 suit. I use Photoshop and Fireworks.... they both have strong points. I just hate to see some great programs go down the tubes because "Adobe" doesn't need them. On onto the website... Adobe's site is your ordinary boring corporate site, where the "old" Macromedia site was in my opinion one of the best looking and most functional sites out there. It supported Firefox from the start.... just recently did Adobe fix their site so the images would load properly on Firefox.
Adobe makes good products.
Macromedia makes good products.
But they don't mix.
The interface looks different, and it SHOULD.
I don't want Adobe to trash the beautiful Macromedia interfaces to replace them with the "classic" Adobe look. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Macromedia is now Adobe, no weird name merging.
- smhill, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"Please combine FH and AI so we can have multi-page storyboards and let us choose an option of which controls we want."
I second that. Both lack certain key things, putting them both together would be great.
What is funny though is that many moons back when Adobe bought Aldus, they had to sell off Freehand because they already had illustrator and it would have been basically buying out the whole market. Here we are several years later and it is back again.
I only have two concerns, Fireworks (nothing comes close to it), and the bastardization of Flash. I wish they would keep pdf/swf/svg separate. - BlackPhantom, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1*cries*
- Braddeharder, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Freehand is the only app that is going to go away for sure. And to be honest, I do not like freehand. It has not been updated in a while. I am worried about. Adobe bought Macromedia for Flash and dreamweaver so they are going to stay.
Now the only thing left for them to gobble up is Quark. - rastorize, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Yeah Freehand will die an undiggnified death. As long as they don't touch Flash though...
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Adobacromedia
- Double-Z, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Looks ok to me.
Hello Macrodobe. - motionblur, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I hope they kill Dreamweaver and launch Adobe Homesite 6.0.
/ hates WYSIWYG with a passion - capajc, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I like Adobe. Dugg.
- tomaburque, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Flash is wonderful technology but 99.9% of it is used for animated advertising - boxs of blinking and moving crap that make it difficult to concentrate on the text that I am trying to read. Of course I have Flashblock but damn Macromedia to the seventh circle of hell for not giving the sheeple Internet users a button to turn that garbage off.
- Prez, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"i loved macromedia, i think a little part of myself died today"
I hear ya, I hear ya, :( - dramatools, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Predictions:
Livin' Large:
Flash, Acrobat, Photoshop, Illustrator, InDesign, Version Cue, Dreamweaver, Breeze, Flex, Flash Paper, Contribute, AfterEffects, Premiere, Encore DVD, Audition
On the Selling Block:
JRun, RoboHelp, RoboInfo, ColdFusion
Take a Dirt Nap:
GoLive, Authorware, PageMaker, Fireworks, Freehand, HomeSite
Answer Hazy, Try Again:
Director, FrameMaker - tacojohn, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1urg- the design bundle includes GoLive and not Dreamweaver!!! NOOOOOO!
- FriedGeek, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I thought they were going to combine FreeHand MX and Illustrator CS2.... It was going to be called Frustrator SX ??? Are they not going to do that anymore??
You got your Adobe in my Macromedia!
No, you got your Macromedia in my Adobe!
Two great tastes that taste great together. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Looks good. What's all the fuss about? This news is over a year old already.
- FunkyChicken, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1----------------
trogdor:
"to me the site seems only similar in color scheme but other than that completely new AND it looks better I hated the clutter of the old Macromedia site."
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Dude! When as the last time you even visted the Macromedia site before today? Clutter? What Clutter? You don't know what you're talking about. And it's NOT completely new. - moondoggie, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1it is what it is. move on.
- damonic, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1its a sad day...
- squigit, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0FreeHand already disappeared into oblivion. Notice that it hasn't been updated since MX? They haven't even had the Freehand team on staff for months.
- pdajunkee, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I'm having a tough time following the various name changes of my favourite program... Bought eHelp's RoboDemo, sold to Macromedia and renamed to Captivate, and next I'll have Macrodobe ????. As long as they don't break it I'll be happy.
Goodbye Freehand, you won't be missed.
Goodbye GoLive (hopefully)
Don't you dare touch Fireworks! Or try to incorporate it into PhotoShop.
The site looks fine, it's a transition to the Adobe white background. - Metal_Guru, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0The site kinda does look ugly now... I suppose they merged the white from Adobe with the grey that was Macromedia, is that what they wanted to show? Pretty wierd that the leaders in creative programs choose greys for a site design.
Well, we all knew it was going to happen sooner or later, but just seeing it happen brings a tear to my eyes (I see FunkyChiken felt the same). Adobe replacing the Macromedia logo... its just to much. I love them both, but its.. its just not the same anymore.
I suppose that since all signs point to Freehand getting the boot, they will be releasing it as a Free for All? Or is that hoping too much? ;) What would you do with a program that you don't develop anymore... seems a waste to just let it fade. - FunkyChicken, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Ohh no. This is so sad.
I knew it would eventually happen after the buy-out was announced but seeing the transition begin just makes me want to cry. I loved Macromedia... - gamerzworld, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I makes my forum layout look good!
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Well good bye Macromedia! :( - neovive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I definitely agree that the key to the acquisition was the "Flash Platform" and its installed base. I wouldn't worry too much about Dreamweaver (since it has such a strong developer community). But the thought of a combined PDF-SWF player is a little scary and would require some amazing engineering to make it run as smoothly as FlashPaper.
My primary concern is Fireworks. I've been using it since version 3 and I couldn't imagine going back to Photoshop for web design. While Photoshop is unmatched in its image editing and compositing ability, it is much more difficult to use for templating websites and creating simple web graphics. Hopefully, Adobe drops the "ImageReady Experiment" and incorporates Fireworks into its design bundle. - Tyler, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I allways liked fireworks for my basic graphics, indesign for my layouts, and dreamweaver for web design. I wonder if they will ditch any of them or all of the MM products... Screw Adobe, you wont get a penny of my money if any of those MM programs go away.
- boardo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I dont see how it looks bad, yes it is a simple design obviously laid out in photoshop but it works. so who cares?
- mIIwaukee, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I'm not to sad. Perhaps Adobe's quality approach to products will rub off on the Macromedia team. There hasn't been a stable version of Dreamweaver or Fireworks since version 3.
- Dujoducom, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I would be extremely disappointed if they axed Fireworks. I think they should embrace the web design angle and focus Fireworks on that, leaving photoshop for the heavey image editing that it excels at.
- tpv2066, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0i loved macromedia, i think a little part of myself died today
- curiouslyvague, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Grey backgrounds on rounded boxes, repeating tiled backgrounds on scrolling pages, lots of js errors. yikes. What a rash hackjob from the leaders in design tools just to stamp some corporate authority on MM on day one. Oh, and I worry about Fireworks, Illustrator in it's current form is just too print based for me...
- crapiolio, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I'll be sticking with my own bundle of Flash 8, Dreamweaver 8, Photoshop CS2, Illstartor CS2. When they get something new out, I won't be rushing out to welcome it. I'll wait a year and see how thier integration goes. They either do a good job or a bad one.
- dignan2681, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I hate GoLive. Are they going to keep Dreamweaver?
- gregcotten, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0One more thing - for all the people who want to act like they know what they are talking about and say "That site lucks ugly" or things to that effect - leave those comments to people who care. Design of a website does not reflect their product effiency/output.
- Elxx, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Reminds me of Windows 98 for some reason. Just the uninspired gray, I guess...
- sldSquirrel, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0:(
I'm more of a newb, and everything Adobe makes is seriously too cluttered and complicated for me. Fireworks always had a very simple interface, but I'm guessing that's gonna be the first to go. Then Flash, it took me so long to learn it, and if they change it, I'll be screwed. Not to mention everything Adobe makes seems to take 5 years to open. - gregcotten, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Excellent! Adobe makes great products that help people (like me) make money... why shouldn't I like them? By the way (referring to the summary), what makes the site ugly?
- pridebowl, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Today is a sad day!
- Sparticuz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0[quote]anything that says adobe is un-userfriendly, slow and bloated.[/quote]
- squigit, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Hey, at least most of Adobe's products work properly on the Mac. Dreamweaver from MX through 8 is buggy as hell.
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