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- vedichymn, on 10/12/2007, -1/+38I would say that most of them died because something better came along.
- jrepin, on 10/12/2007, -1/+34Konqueror from KDE is missing.
- zeldafan, on 10/12/2007, -3/+23http://www.duggmirror.com/software/Internet_Browser_Graveyard._(with_downloads_)/
- cosmotic, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14How can you say every browser? You have to be really careful when you use words like 'every', 'always', 'never', etc. I can tell you beyond a shadow of a doubt that this does not include every browser.
- kimos, on 10/12/2007, -0/+13Webster browser is missing too...
- theblooms, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13I was under the assumption the term was "*****." Or is that too crude?
- xzuakdwn, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9The links may be absolute, not relative, thus linking to the acual site.
- veracon, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10As are Epiphany, Galeon, w3m and probably many more.
- FiveFiftyOne, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11Where's the Safety Browser????
- DarkSorrow, on 10/12/2007, -4/+12@Carv, it was not Firefox that killed them, at the beginning of the first browser, every company out there is at war until the Netscape shined and then the first real First Browser War, Netscape Vs. MSIE. You guessed it, MSIE won, for 10 years or more, MSIE killed every single of them, MSIE hold the largest highest sum of shares until Firefox (Formally Phoniex then Firebird) shined in open source community, how Firefox and the open source community joined forces to entirely kill MSIE for their regime. So Firefox is not killing them, it was MSIE all along, so Firefox is stopping them. and it works, MSIE is losing shares, not much but it still going down slowly. For 5 years, FF is finally shining in the entire world. Right now, any web browser is not scared to face MSIE because they saw what Firefox do. And since this way, MSIE is losing shares slowly but it really hurting them.
- spamzor, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8Hey duggmirror is nice and all, but when I wanted to see all the versions that they had of IE it linked me back to the real site (which of course is under the 'digg effect'). Does duggmirror only copy/cache the one page?
- Protoss, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8Well not buried, that would imply it being removed from the frontpage. 'Dugg' is the appropriate term I think...
- Durrok, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Why the hell would you want it though? (In reference to IE 5.5, not the site)
- ah802, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Site is almost dugg down... It missed a few of the old Amiga browsers.. some of which had potential.
- JamesWilson, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6This helped me out a lot when I was developing an AJAX for all browsers including Netscape 3.0 gold and WebTV.
- brainache, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6http://browsers.evolt.org.nyud.net:8080/ works pretty well as well.
- picneec13, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6where's AOL? ;)
- theblooms, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Or Prodigy? Prodigy was my first ISP. Back when I still had a screaming 486-66 with 20 megs of ram, a 540 meg HD, 2x CD-ROM, 800 meg Travan Tape drive, SoundBlaster, and a 14.4k modem. Man what a "sweet" setup!
- Dark_Ice, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7Oh I dont know, they just might have left it out since it's just a skin for IE (if I remember correctly) and is installed by spyware that will crash your computer to oblivion. But hey thats just my bet.
- mancat, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7IE hardly killed anything but Netscape. Until IE showed up, Netscape was pretty much THE browser to use if you wanted to browse graphical web pages on a PC, Mac, or most Unix platforms. Netscape had already done most of the killing off of other browsers by then.
How quickly we all forget the names of the true villians! - anti-net, on 10/12/2007, -4/+8So it is :( good browser too.
- evilneuro, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Hey, thanks everyone for the diggs, i'm one of the curators of browsers.evolt.org. If you've got suggestions for browsers we've missed (IE skins aside, and extra brownie points if you can provide URLs to downloads of working binaries), please do let us know at http://evolt.org/contact/
- FiveFiftyOne, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7*whoosh*
That's the sound of the joke going over your head. - UltimateFlynn, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6What about for someone who just wanted to read the information on the page?
- theblooms, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Yup. IE 5.5 SP2 is the only browser that will work under Windows 95C with only 40 megs of ram. Sucks ass, too, because that is on my ancient laptop I keep in the van. One day, when I don't have anything else to do, I will put 98/Firefox on there, but, whatever. It works now for what I use it for.
- JamesWilson, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6Yea, I invented a new way to do it.. requires only simple javascript, images, and cookie support.
- MasteRR, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5There are quite a few missing, in fact. Including Telnet for the hard core people who emulate browsers :-P.
- MikeDawg, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5I've used it many times. . . Its actually really hard to find IE 5.5 (pre-SP1) downloads. The only other place to get IE 5.5 (pre-SP1) is from Windows ME and I don't know any administrators around with that POS OS.
- dhenderson, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3This brought back some memories...
Galahad actually started as an off line message reader for BIX (Byte Magazine's Byte Information Exchange) back in the day. The dial-up services such as BIX and CompuServ were beginning to loose their luster. BIX still had a strong if somewhat small community of users who made extensive use of their services.
The services weren't much by today's standards I suppose but they included a terminal based talker, an extensive bulletin board system, messaging between users, and some hesitant steps into the brave new world of the Internet - gopher services! In the end you could also read usenet via BIX. I think my first e-mail address may have actually been a gateway between their messaging system and the Internet.
BIX had a pretty eclectic membership. Their message boards (think old style BBS functionality) was the meat of the place. Got to interact with folks ranging from NASA engineers to authors. Rick Cook (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0671721984/104-4225404-1800730?v=glance&n=283155) was a great guy. After seeing Jerry Pournelle, who had a column in BIX at the time, in action on the message boards I could never bring myself to read another of his books. There was a small role playing community there for some time who made use of the BIX chat software.
Back to where I started... the bbs system on BIX was kind of painful and keeping up via dialup wasn't pleasant. Jean's program logged into BIX, pulled the new messages to all the groups you were subscribed too, downloaded them, and threaded them up for reading off line. As the program grew it accumulated new functionality to handle off line browsing and email if I recall. The browsing portion would essentially snarf up the pages you requested via BIX's Internet link and allow you to download them to your pc where you could read them - can't remember if it did images or not.
I had the pleasure of working with a small group who beta tested the software for Jean. I have a pc that hasn't been turned on in six or seven years that still has it installed.
One of the saddest days I can recall was learning that he had been accidentally electrocuted while working at his home. He was an affable and talented man. - aptget, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Only thing that's cool is Opera has an official repository for Ubuntu which is pretty sweet. The tabs not able to go below the address textbox and the confusing preferences dialog are my two biggest annoyances. Those, and the default theme it uses, blah.
- schleufer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Wow, I haven't seen Lynx for a while.
Text-based browsing ruled back in the day, but now most sites simply fall apart and navigation is impossible without a full GUI. I used to use Lynx regularly up until about 2000, and I kind of miss its simplicity. - WyllyWylly, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2This site has been around for a long time - nice to see it get the recognition it deserves. Dugg.
- linuxrebel, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Perhaps this shoudl be "Old browsers that run on windows." in the explination. Granted there are some browsers listed that are cross plantform but so many of the ones I've used/use are missing just because I've never run windows (Ok I had a 3.1 box at work once.) None of the non graphical browsers I know of are there at all it seems.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -12/+14The only thing Firefox has killed is previous versions and trunks of itself.
- lsandberg, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2lynx is still an incredibly useful tool and its good to see that it is still around. Recently installed ubuntu on a new laptop and on booting i ran into some serious driver problems with my video card and widescreen lcd. but thanks to lynx i didn't have to haul myself over to a library to trouble shoot the problem on another computer. while it wasn't easy it is useful when you're in a bind.
- aptget, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Don't even bother with 98. Get an extremely lightweight system like Xubuntu or Damn Small Linux.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:2_IiKXREyawJ:browsers.evolt.org/+&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=1&ie=UTF-8
- darkclarity, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Didn't expect them to have all the Amiga ones too, like aweb, ibrowse and voyager.
- wyrdness, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Back in what day? I was using Mosaic back in late 93/early 94 when the web was still pretty new.
- JamesWilson, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2yea that RSLite looks similar to what I did, mine is slightly cleaner using the onload event of the image.
Thanks for the links. - Mujklob, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Very nice, would be useful to test out your site in older browser versions, or perhaps for Firefox extensions.
- crazybob, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Ha ha. I did that back in 2002 (http://web.archive.org/web/20021114050653/http://crazybob.org/downloads.htm) only to find Brent Ashley had already done it (http://web.archive.org/web/20021201233726/ashleyit.com/rs/rslite/) albeit not as cleanly.
- jpesicka2, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1http://www.duggmirror.com/software/Internet_Browser_Graveyard._(with_downloads_)/
one more cache link - Amigaice, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1They have Neoplanet!
- Mac2492, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1They threw all the floppies away. Either that, or they listened to "Don't copy that floppy!".
- samboy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I've known about this for a while; it's a resource for web designers so they can make sure their site is cross-browser compatible. Some of these browsers will not work at all; for example, the Netcruiser software, which includes a browser, only works if you dial up to a Netcom Netcruiser account, which does not exist anymore.
Probably the most useful resource here is the standalone versions of Internet Explorer 3,4, 5.0, 5.5, and 6, which allows a web designer to test their site on multiple versions of IE on the same computer. Another use for this archive is to get a browser for that old 486 laptop sitting in a closet.
In terms of Linux browsers, there are plenty of places to get Dillo, elinks, and what not. The purpose of this site is to make available older browsers that people may still be using that web designers would not otherwise have access to.
In terms of cross-browser testing, having IE5.0, 5.5, 6 and 7 compatibility is important. Firefox 1.5 compatibility is also important, as is Opera 8/9 compatibility. It's nice to have Netscape 4 compatibility, but this may not be feasible with sites that use a lot of javascript. Thankfully, there's a simple /*/*/ css to hide from Netscape 4 /* */ hack that makes it easy to make a site with a lot of CSS Netscape 4 compatible (if not pretty). - theblooms, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Amiga was the shizzle. Many TV stations still use the Video Toaster.
- Amigaice, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Amiga Rocks, too bad they never had a free TC/IP Client. Had a demo I use 30min at I time. Miami I think it I think it was called. Still have my 1200 with SCALA. Did TV with it for 3 years.
- DarkSorrow, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@solidcube, it was not Mozilla Team's intention to kill any browser. Their goal is one and simple, to stop MS's monopoly.
I know i know, there is a trails about MS, but there is tons of countries that claiming MS is monopoling their markets, and that what is MS intention all along. Since the beginning of MS, it their true intention, not every one see that. They paid a guy to perform a test on Linux and Window and compare it. so the so-call researcher claim that Window is better than Linux, until few months later, it was found out it not true at all because MS paid a guy to tell the world a big fat greatest lie of all. And that not good because it showing people what their real intention. MS want to stop the open source community because they are so greedy. MS is like a RIAA, RIAA is famous for creating a tons of lawsuit that they where doing so wrong all along.
And Mozilla Team want the entire open source community to rise. And it is happening. Linux is rising better, OpenOffice.org is rising better, right now, there is a tons of open source programs and it pulling them away from MS, even MS owns about 95% market shares. I switched to OpenOffice.org last year and it amazing, there is many basic feature you use everyday. even a built-in free PDF creator. Sure OO.o is imperfect, all programs is imperfect. but it show it's worthy. There is one state that want to us ODF (Open Document Format, it based on OASIS format) in offices, in government owned building in that state. ODF is better than MS format because if you saved it 5 years ago in .ODF format, it will show the the same thing as it is now, even the word processor is upgraded. MS Word cant, they have to use a filtering to get the data out of '95 and '97 format but the data is probe to problematic because MS keep changing their code which affects the MS older format. Even MS claimed their newly designed XML format is .ODF format but there is a few people proved that MS's XML format is incorrect, it not based on .ODF format, it still entirely based on MS format. - ZMerlin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1*sob* I submitted this one almost a year ago. I guess I need to work on my titles a bit more.
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