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- aldenhg, on 10/12/2007, -24/+492Ha! I put in my IP (127.0.0.1) and it didn't even register! Advanced technology my ass.
- Roger, on 10/12/2007, -12/+329@aldenhg
Haha I hacked your computer once and deleted all your *****.
I totally pwned you. - Bamborzled, on 10/12/2007, -10/+112@SamsLembas
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/sarcasm
http://www.answers.com/main/ntquery?s=sarcasm&gwp=13
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/joke
http://www.answers.com/main/ntquery?s=joke&gwp=13
Please read these links. - Scatropolis, on 10/12/2007, -5/+82No, it's because the joke doesn't need to be questioned
- SeBBBe, on 10/12/2007, -35/+81Because it was obvious it was a joke.
- falcon1, on 10/12/2007, -1/+44Because aldenhg is just joking, and most digg users are smart enough to get the joke.
- Qumahlin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+41This article shouldn't have been dugg last year as much as it was, and it shouldn't have been submitted again. First off repeat after me "EVERY IP TRACER USES THE SAME EXACT INFO" That means that thier claims of being the "most accurate" are 100% BS
All these sites/programs do is query the IP address and return the location information that the ISP has provided. ISP's, especially large ones do not register actual addresses of the person who has the IP address, they merely put in the address of the closest NOC usually. Some ISP's don't even provide that much info, alot merely put in the location of the ISP's headquarters
The only way this thing would be accurate is if you actually bought a static IP address from your ISP, and then managed to convince them to have the record changed to your address, which the majority of ISP's will not do whatsoever!
For them to claim this "tracer" is more accurate would mean they would have to have people submit their IP addresses and their locations and for them to ignore the information the ISP provided. Not only would that be a horrible idea, but with the majority of users having dynamic IP addresses the info would eventually be incorrect as large ISPs move IP blocks on the fly and just because IP address x.x.x.x happens to belong to a user in minnesota today it could easily belong to a user in Alaska tomorrow.
I fully encourage everyone to bury this story as all it does is confuse the technically un-saavy into thinking you can actually use this to reliably locate people...which you cannot - jiminoc, on 10/12/2007, -1/+28too bad you can get around this little show with a proxy address. You think a spammer uses their real ISP? geez newbs.
The only people this will scare are chicks that turn you down on instant messenger. bleh - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -17/+30dugg... it got within a few miles of my house ..not perfect but better then most
- jakeblat, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12I've noticed one problem,
it thinks I live in the middle of a river, miles from my house - edilclyde, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10my results are a bit creepy
http://clydeonline.net/ipaddress.JPG - tdyer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10let me guess....aol?
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11I doubt it'll bring up anyone's address individually, not unless they've actually registered their own static IP, or they're an ISP in their own right (some universities for example.) There's lots of tools out there that do this and they're all doing the same thing, sure some may display it on pretty maps but one isn't really any more accurate than the other.
- Whoblah, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10"latest news: we are disappointed! We have more than 20.000 visitors the day and noone wants to digg the story? We think we have to close the service. Thats no fair! We pay the maxmind professional database and the heavy traffic to give you the most accurate free ip location service. But now? No help. Sorry, thats no fair! If you like our site and you are digg.com member digg it and if you you are no member register and digg it. If you dont like our site, you can do what you want. But our friends are welcome to help us!"
I'm sorry... but all I have to say after reading that is 'what?!' - MikeMacMan, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10It just gives you the registered ISP of an IP address.... nothing special here
- nreynolds, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9For me it says I'm in a cemetery. Now as much as i'd LIKE to live in a graveyard, it just doesn't happen.
- Sharky, on 10/12/2007, -4/+12It's because it was a joke. I hear stupid people don't get jokes, confirm / deny?
- xXShadowstormXx, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8Thanks for your input.
- mt4055, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8@Rosco
When I traced my IP from home is was within about a mile. Closer than I thought.
But when I tried this from my work computer which is in the Seattle area it said my IP was in Atlanta. Can't get much farther away than that. :)
Doesn't matter. It's still fun. I like to trace port probes that my firewall notifies me about. More often than not they come from a college or university.
I've been using it for a few months now.
Dugg: Nice tool. - Roger, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10I wonder if spammers like eating SPAM?
- TNHitokiri, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7hmm.. interesting.. I thought I lived in Texas, but according to this site, apparently I live in Kansas..
- nreynolds, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10Wait, someone give me your ip address, i'll "check" how accurate it is.
- yabos, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6It doesn't work worth a damn anyways, it shows mine about 50KM away from where I really am.
- buckynekkid, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7The user-created content idea, that makes Digg so popular, means that if a story is new/interesting to enough people it will make it to the home page (even if said story has already been elevated to the homepage before). The fact that the number of new Digg users is growing everyday also makes such an occurrence much more likely, as what is new to them isn't necessarily new to you or me. Everyone who read this the first or second time around knows it is old (without you stating the obvious). Everyone who has never read this doesn't care that it is old. I don't know if you guys or the "dupe" nazis are worse.
- Rosco, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Sort of inaccurate, if I made a post from work and it was traced, it would look like I was posting from a completely different state than the one I am in.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6What is a "satallite"?
- Terc, on 10/12/2007, -6/+11We don't need to explain tech related jokes to anyone on Digg. If you feel lost, leave.
- jayhawk, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4i think it just shows the middle of the zip code where the IP is located. folks who live close to the middle will think this service is more powerful than it is. :b
- kimish, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Funny, my house is in the middle of cemetery....
- shlinton, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6Anyone get it too not just bring up their ISP?
- xigxag, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6It seems to me that the opposite usually happens in digg comments. Someone makes a joke then everyone proceeds to digg him down, missing the obvious sarcasm. Then someone else makes a comment making fun of the ignorance of the joker, and gets dugg up. So, I think it's refreshing. Ahhh......
- ericnmu, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3It guessed my location incorrectly, and all I'm using is basic residential cable.
- hydrokayak, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Has anyone noticed that the URL has incorrect spelling. I typed in ip-address.com, as I thought it read, and I dodn't get what I was looking for. Plus, it only tracks to my ISP... which is located 250 miles away...
- myownbiggestfan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3It doesn't seem to deal with Tokyo addresses well either. It says I live in the Emperor's house.
- vertigoblue, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3When i did it it came up in the middle of Washington DC, but i live on the west coast...
im unplugging my computer, and putting on my tinfoil hat now...
lookout for "them" - Roger, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3You mean about the same distance between your ISP's office and your home?
Shocking. - japface, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3i live in canada. according ti it, i live in the ocean off the coast of africa as well.
- Hitchhiker90, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Duplicate from 47 days ago. Buried as such. And given the URL you entered Digg probably told you its already been submitted before.
http://www.digg.com/tech_news/Most_accurate_ip_tracing_amazing - christopherw, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Any of these "IP tracing" programs usually suck ass for countries outside the US. In countries like the UK, where ISPs tend to trunk most of their communications to one main POP for an entire region, the results can be wildly inaccurate.
For example: on my house's Zen DSL connection, it shows my location as:
state: Norfolk
city: Welwyn Garden City
latitude: 51.799999
longitude: -0.200000
However, I'm in Steeple Claydon, which is in the north of Buckinghamshire, and it's 55 miles away from Welwyn! http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=d&hl=en&saddr=54b+west+street,+steeple+claydon,+buckinghamshire&daddr=welwyn+garden+city&sll=51.883185,-0.595565&sspn=0.379763,1.2854&ie=UTF8&z=10&ll=51.812011,-0.617981&spn=0.380365,1.2854&om=1
Cable ISPs like Blueyonder tend to have one POP for a large town, and more for cities (and with Blueyonder they suffix their own abbreviation of the town name onto your IP address, so you can kiiinda tell where someone's living) but many DSL providers in the UK suck for stuff like this.
The only way to get a very accurate reading of where someone is in the UK is to use a dedicated (and expensive) geolocation service, a provider which builds up a live database of IPs based on netblock information provided by ISPs themselves and latency measurements, ping times, hops to reach IPs, stuff like that...
That said, my DSL connection at my student house in Birmingham is (somewhat) accurately reported as "Birmingham, Birmingham" on that IP Trace site, so it's getting there. It can't give me a street name or area though, it just goes for the centre of the city (according to Google). Brum is a fairly big city though ;) I think the moral of this story is take all these kinda tools with a biiig pinch of salt if you live outside the US :D - disasterix, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2More likely than not, that site uses the services from http://www.ip2location.com/ . Ip2location seems to have most of that market by its balls. Does anyone know of any free and complete IP location databases?
- bg2500, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2It might get your ISP wrong if they have a PoP in various cities. http://www.stallion.com.au/html/support/glossary.html#P
Their official corporate headquarters might be in a location other than the PoP that you are accessing. - ahill7, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Its been mentioned that this site just scrapes data from the MaxMind database. Checked that out and looks plausible.
http://www.maxmind.com/app/locate_my_ip - Qumahlin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2This article shouldn't have been dugg last year as much as it was, and it shouldn't have been submitted again. First off repeat after me "EVERY IP TRACER USES THE SAME EXACT INFO" That means that thier claims of being the "most accurate" are 100% BS
All these sites/programs do is query the IP address and return the location information that the ISP has provided. ISP's, especially large ones do not register actual addresses of the person who has the IP address, they merely put in the address of the closest NOC usually. Some ISP's don't even provide that much info, alot merely put in the location of the ISP's headquarters
The only way this thing would be accurate is if you actually bought a static IP address from your ISP, and then managed to convince them to have the record changed to your address, which the majority of ISP's will not do whatsoever!
For them to claim this "tracer" is more accurate would mean they would have to have people submit their IP addresses and their locations and for them to ignore the information the ISP provided. Not only would that be a horrible idea, but with the majority of users having dynamic IP addresses the info would eventually be incorrect as large ISPs move IP blocks on the fly and just because IP address x.x.x.x happens to belong to a user in minnesota today it could easily belong to a user in Alaska tomorrow.
I fully encourage everyone to bury this story as all it does is confuse the technically un-saavy into thinking you can actually use this to reliably locate people...which you cannot - hydrokayak, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I'm going to get Dugg-Down for sure. I spelled something wrong, and I was ranting about the URL having poor spelling... whoops...
- pmeeks, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3These guys do the same thing http://www.iplocationfinder.com and they (did) have a free location API that I played around with, I don't see it on thier site anymore. It was http request XML response great for ajax location mashups.
- fu11y104d3d, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2This thing is not accurate at all. It might just be my case. But it says my IP is like 20 miles away (where my internet provider location is) from my actual location.
- draebor, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2yeah, not even close. Nice try, advanced technology.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3why does some dude who submits this url on digg, blatantly seeing that it has been submitted at least 5 times..., gets his article on the front page? I go to digg for NEW news... not the same news... blah.
I mean, I donno... I would like to be on the front page, so why don't I just submit the most popular article from the past year?? - jvicinanza, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2but i already know where I am. why do I need this to tell me?
- Blackmane, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Other side of the country from my ISP, kinda glad I can't be traced that well from a simple map.
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