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Get Opera-like 'Speed Dial' Feature in Firefox
downloadsquad.com — What's Speed Dial? Basically, Opera 9.2 provides you with screenshots for up to 9 websites when you load the browser. It's kind of like having 9 different homepages, which you can quick faster than you can pull up a bookmark toolbar. You can also refresh the screenshots.
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- conedude13, on 10/12/2007, -6/+35I think that article has the wrong link.
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/4810- fkr3, on 10/12/2007, -44/+26For Opera users who want to try the Firefox "experience" you can use these great addons:
http://www.freedownloadscenter.com/Best/slow-down-cpu.html - charliecharlos, on 10/12/2007, -25/+73Yeah, it's called downloading Opera. Kids nowadays....
- gmillerd, on 10/12/2007, -11/+6This is a big hit to the system unlike on Opera that has a architecture that is friendly to MDI interfaces, if you want close but not exact just set your homepage to multiple links: http://digg.com/|http://slashdot.org
But this doesn't like alt-home, it will just create more and more tabs. - Hayaemsay, on 10/12/2007, -29/+96Here's the right link;
http://www.opera.com/ - Kazbaeden, on 10/12/2007, -6/+25Wow, the tiny windows look awful. I looked at the same pages in speed dial, and they look a lot cleaner.
- Fosnez, on 10/12/2007, -29/+44Yes, more people should get the latest firefox addon/upgrade:
www.opera.com - Ngai, on 10/12/2007, -7/+1I have a good question...
How do make the showcase pop up when you open Firefox; with all the tabs of course?.. that'll be awesome! - stephenwq, on 10/12/2007, -7/+1@gmillerd:
Thanks, I honestly didn't know how firefox could set tabbed home pages. I was pretty sure it could, but i never knew how.
@Ngai:
Do you mean set your home page as speed dial? Use this as your homepage url: chrome://speeddial/content
That should do it. - adolfojp, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9@idioticBug (#6591940)
Nah... just a lot of hard core Opera fanboys like me. :-)
(By the way, the threaded digg comments firefox greasemonkey script works really well in Opera) - d17182, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1@conedude13:
No, it's this one:
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1810?id=1810
- fkr3, on 10/12/2007, -44/+26For Opera users who want to try the Firefox "experience" you can use these great addons:
- barktwiggs, on 10/12/2007, -31/+14Is it just me, or are the FireFanBoys more excited about Opera changelogs than the Opera community?
- smartsingh24, on 10/12/2007, -23/+13if it seems like we're not excited, it's because we get used to a certain level of innovation not offered elsewhere.
- Bamborzled, on 10/12/2007, -22/+11Is it just me, or are the OperaFanBoys more excited about trying to convert Firefox users than the Firefox community trying to convert IE users?
We're all trying to rid the world of IE. Let's focus on that, and then we can have some competition between Opera and Firefox.
(For the record, I use Firefox and sometimes Opera. Gotta try out this 'speed dial'!) - zepolen, on 10/12/2007, -7/+19Don't knock it till you try it.
- xevidentx, on 10/12/2007, -18/+13no, you firefanboys are just annoying, and us opera fanboys just like to laugh at you uninformed masses.
- mvent2, on 10/12/2007, -18/+3No xevidentx, people can safely say that Opera fanboys are the most annoying, and there is more than enough evidence on this page alone to prove so. I need not even talk about the Opera trolls who keep spamming the Opera url on every Firefox release article.
I've used Opera and it's OK, but fanboys like you piss me off so much. - ForrestGump, on 10/12/2007, -12/+2@xevidentx (#6592079)
I use IE so i get to laugh at you both while you both laugh at me for still using IE
- ChuckNorrisMan, on 10/12/2007, -49/+1This is such a gimmick. IE 7 is still the best Internet browser out there.
- wichgod, on 10/12/2007, -19/+9@chucknorrisman
Ya, IE7 support all the web standards better them FireFox, it's more secure, more stable and have
the best extensions. We all known that. - xTRUMANx, on 10/12/2007, -17/+2Chant: IE7, IE7, IE7
IE7 is the best of the best and to whoever diggs down wichgod and chucknorrisman above me have no sense of humour. Come on guys, wouldn't it be funny to have comments supporting IE7 have a couple of hundred diggs on a frontpage digg story. :-P
- wichgod, on 10/12/2007, -19/+9@chucknorrisman
- donveto, on 10/12/2007, -12/+78Why I use Opera:
1) It loads real fast
2) It has tabs
3) I avoid all the malware that loves to hook on to IE
4) It has mouse movements
and now it has speed dial.- coheedcollapse, on 10/12/2007, -18/+19I love Opera, but for some reason I've always found it to take longer to load web pages than firefox (even with page draw set to instant) and every once and a while processor usage will jump up to 99% for no reason. That coupled with the fact that getting an ad blocker equivalent to adblock is a pain in the ass and requires an outside program sort of made up my mind.
I'll admit that the built in features are really great though. - Mithrander, on 10/12/2007, -6/+27It also has that 'mouse motions' thing which is awesome...and I like how it saves my session everytime I close the browser. It also has a built in bit-torrent client...
Why not just use Opera? - kahlessreborn, on 10/12/2007, -38/+55Why I use Firefox:
1) It loads real fast
2) It has tabs
3) I avoid all the malware that loves to hook on to IE
4) It hasExtensions
5)Customizable Themes
6)IE Tab for those poorly designed Websites
7)The Extension no Script
and now it has speed dial. - sayanranu, on 10/12/2007, -22/+18I kinda disagree here...it's better not too have built in features. With Firefox I have the option to chose which features I want in the form of extensions..it's much more customizable than Opera.
- dgr814vr, on 10/12/2007, -10/+52@coheedcollapse
It doesnt seem like you have used Opera
It draws pages faster that IE or FF.
It has the fastest cache around.
It has had tabbed browsing since whenever (version 3 I think)
It has been one of the smallest Browsers on the market with its rendering engine
It has themes
It supports every website out there (even if the websites dont)
Secunia reports it as one of the most secure browsers
Works with digg
In built search with ability to add any search by right clicking on a search box
ad blocking works just by editing a text file (should appeal to the linux enthusiasts)
Its free
It has sessions.
In built Mail client that supports, folders, tags and threads
In built irc chat, Rss reader, Widgets.
Accessability
Javascript blocking
IT passed ACID2 before either of the other two did
With regards to customisation
Almost everything lies dormant (and fast asleep dormant) unless you want it when it becomes usefull.
Try it you might like it - cozinator, on 10/12/2007, -30/+4I'll continue to support Firefox on principle because it is free and open source. Opera is proprietary software.
- Kazbaeden, on 10/12/2007, -4/+27I tried to switch from Opera to Firefox when I found the extension "Grab and Drag" because it's really great for a tablet PC. After trying to add all the features I love in Opera to firefox by the way of extensions I had over 25. At that point I thought "not worth it."
Instead I wrote my own version of Grab and Drag for Opera using userjs. - zepolen, on 10/12/2007, -4/+46Opera DOES have adblock, builtin in fact, just right click a page and click 'Block Content', its on a page by page basis so you can allow ads for pages you want to support (like Digg).
I loved Firefox, and one week with Opera made me change. Everything is compiled into it so it is /much/ faster than Firefox and extensions, memory usage is lower and grease monkey - builtin with userjs (plus it's /real/ js, not a bastardized version of GS javascript).
The mail/rss/news client is awesome fast.
It is one of the few pieces of software I'd pay for, and this coming from a Linux user (tight git).
Give it a go, seriously, use it exclusively for a week, learn to use mouse gestures, control-alt-z, the mail client, rss feeds - I don't run anything else now, it has all my internet needs in one nice fast program. - metamorfoza, on 10/12/2007, -12/+510) I HATE comments where people (kids?) are compairing the length of their "what i likes" list as if their are comparing their dicks..
Both browsers are great (at least I love them both) I love Operas built in mail client, and Firefox firebug extension (debuggin in Opera is pain in arse). I wish one day they merge. - coheedcollapse, on 10/12/2007, -12/+3Dgr, I did use it. Why would I lie about something as stupid as that? I used it once a while ago and for a 6 month or so period when 9.0 beta was going on. I really enjoyed it, but I always ended up coming back to Firefox.
I'm not bashing Opera. The mail client, bittorrent, wand, and all of that built in stuff enthralled me, there were just a few extensions that I really missed back on Firefox that made me change back. - Kazbaeden, on 10/12/2007, -4/+16One of my favorite things about Opera is the community.
http://my.opera.com/community/
While not as vocal or large as the firefox community, I feel the Opera community surpases Firefox's in terms of enthusiasm. - hazydavy, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11"I love Opera, but for some reason I've always found it to take longer to load web pages than firefox (even with page draw set to instant) and every once and a while processor usage will jump up to 99% for no reason. That coupled with the fact that getting an ad blocker equivalent to adblock is a pain in the ass and requires an outside program sort of made up my mind."
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http://www.fanboy.co.nz/adblock/
Just replace urlfilter.ini from this page with your old one and you're good to go. - checkmate987, on 10/12/2007, -5/+2i dunno. i use em both for different things. for everyday web browsing, i use firefox, because it is slicker and easier to use for me. but i find opera is good for when i am playing in-browser games or running an in-browser VNC client, because it is much more stable. they serve different purposes, but they're both better than IE, which is what counts.
- ForrestGump, on 10/12/2007, -12/+3@donveto (#6591311)
Why I don't use Opera:
1) Its not firefox
Nuff said - ksponge, on 10/12/2007, -10/+2@dgr814vr (#6591479)
Why would I want all that extra crap when I can have the EXACT same features in firefox, but only the features I want? Sorry you lose man. And just fyi, I first tried opera like 6-7 years ago. I know exactly what it is and what it does. - SteveMax, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8The libraries that add those extra features aren't loaded unless you use them (meaning: it's exactly as if they didn't exist if you don't need them). I see no reason why you should have to install 10+ extensions to have your browser with the level of functionality you want it to have.
- tackle, on 10/12/2007, -4/+7[quote]I first tried opera like 6-7 years ago. I know exactly what it is and what it does.[/quote]
You tried opera 6-7 years ago? The time when firefox didnt even exist? So, you do realize that Opera did all those things 6-7 years ago when firefox was not even there. You can only imagine what it does now. - guinunez, on 10/12/2007, -4/+7"I first tried opera like 6-7 years ago. I know exactly what it is and what it does."
Wow, you have really updated info! please let me be your friend. If not, please let me build an altar just to worship you. - OaklandNative, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2The major problem I have with opera is that when you close a tab, it will only focus on the previously opened tap. On sites like digg, i like to open a bunch of tabs and then read each one. but using opera, every time i close a tab i'm forced to look at the digg homepage rather than the next tab in the line of stories. until they give me better tab options, it's FF for me.
- dyzlexiK, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1Im not sure what you mean. When you rightclick you have 2 options: Open tab, and Open Background Tab. If you want it to show you the tab you opened right away, click open tab. If you want to open a bunch, click open background tab?
EDIT: Oh I see what you mean. Nevermind. Digg me down, Up, or Sideways.
- coheedcollapse, on 10/12/2007, -18/+19I love Opera, but for some reason I've always found it to take longer to load web pages than firefox (even with page draw set to instant) and every once and a while processor usage will jump up to 99% for no reason. That coupled with the fact that getting an ad blocker equivalent to adblock is a pain in the ass and requires an outside program sort of made up my mind.
- moogle516, on 10/12/2007, -17/+11"Get Opera-like 'Speed Dial' Feature "
ye its called download and install Opera - Alchemeron, on 10/26/2007, -10/+45For the record, every extension that adds Opera-like features to Firefox, however good, is always slower and inferior to Opera's native implementations.
- salmonmoose, on 10/12/2007, -11/+5Also, for the record, every extension that adds abilities that Opera can't do, is the reason we use Firefox. (FireBug is beyond useful)
Well, the huge slowdown when rendering transparent items, flash not correctly supporting z-depth, and the complete system freeze Opera suffers from when it polls every ***** rss feed you're subscribed to at once might have something to do with it too :) - TenebrousX, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5There is an Opera extension that surpasses Firebug:
http://operawiki.info/WebDevToolbar
also
http://dev.opera.com/tools/ - TenebrousX, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1argh, double post
- kelson, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3TenebrousX, thanks for that link. That's much better than the tools I'd been using with Opera before. I'm definitely going to be using that on several machines!
However, I think it's more comparable to the Web Developer Toolbar extension for Firefox than it is to Firebug.
- salmonmoose, on 10/12/2007, -11/+5Also, for the record, every extension that adds abilities that Opera can't do, is the reason we use Firefox. (FireBug is beyond useful)
- drjenk, on 10/12/2007, -11/+0Why not just set a group of tabs to open on startup, and use the "Firefox Showcase" extension to see a snapshot of all of them? Seems like it would provide the same functionality.
- dyzlexiK, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Because I dont want all 9 websites in my speed dial to start on startup? I want to pick which one?
- Baku, on 10/12/2007, -2/+20This extension (Firefox Showcase).... is NOT a speed-dial feature.... its an extension that will show you the current tabs you have open in thumbnail form. :(
- RADicalSatDude, on 10/12/2007, -7/+7Opera's gonna Knock IE Out!
...Dont call it a comeback
I been here for years...
Bring it on! - L33tMasta, on 10/12/2007, -11/+26Here we see again that Firefox is trying to copy Opera. We all know that Firefox is nothing but a clone of Opera. Opera had all the features before firefox.
- mvent2, on 10/12/2007, -12/+7No, its called the extension system. Mozilla didn't write this (nor want this, the Ctrl+number hotkeys are already taken by the tabs), it was someone who had time on his hands and thought he was doing something good for FF users.
- starsky51, on 10/12/2007, -10/+6Didn't Opera rip off the Greasemonkey Firefox extension in it's latest browser? Think of it as a bit of give and take.
- johnnysaucepn, on 10/12/2007, -2/+16Opera's UserJS implementation was conceived and developed before and independently of Greasemonkey. UserJS was released with Opera 8, not the current Opera 9.
- soccerboi00, on 10/12/2007, -5/+2What about spellcheck? Opera still doesn't have that.
- barktwiggs, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3I like to think that is because Firefox users make so many spelling errors.
- BAMAToNE, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5@soccerboi00: OSpell UserJS: http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=182282
Spell check for Opera. - potifar, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5"What about spellcheck? Opera still doesn't have that."
Believe it or not, Opera supports GNU Aspell on all desktop versions.
- leahculver, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11Finally I can use the internet while drunk! My "Drunk Dial" will include Hot or Not, I can has cheezburger, kittenwar, ratemypoo ...
- FyberOptic, on 10/12/2007, -1/+25Until the Firefox developers ever get around to some image scaling that's worth a *****, they'll never have a comparable Speed Dial function. I mean seriously, images resized in Firefox look absolutely horrible, as evidenced by the page thumbs for this extension. Where as in Opera, pages and images and everything scale beautifully crisp. This is why you see Opera on mobile devices, because they actually know how to handle graphics.
- kelson, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1The Firefox 3 alphas have switched to a new graphics system called Cairo. Among other things, it should vastly improve image scaling.
- Hugeman, on 10/12/2007, -13/+6Direct Link to the speed dial plugin..
http://snipurl.com/1jwec- mvent2, on 10/12/2007, -9/+2Or.... we could look at the very first comment???
- internetworld7, on 10/12/2007, -7/+2That's a real cute trick, hiding the URL to Opera.
- BaconXBits, on 10/12/2007, -10/+4So it's pretty much Firefox Bookmarks Toolbar with pictures?
- cyberoidx, on 10/12/2007, -7/+6No, its a reason to start using opera instead;.
http://digg.com/tech_news/Research_finds_Opera_users_are_most_satisfied
- cyberoidx, on 10/12/2007, -7/+6No, its a reason to start using opera instead;.
- tomi, on 10/12/2007, -10/+3This is an actual standard feature? Ehh, I'd keep it as an addon. It reeks of bloat.
- TheG2, on 10/12/2007, -4/+21If anything, Firefox has broken its original goals, a small, light, compact browser, but with every release, it's download size grows and it becomes slower and sucks up more memory.
Opera uses on average 40MB of memory with a skin loaded and my widgets running, and I don't have to go hunting for extensions, yes, even the half-baked ones. - jlobato, on 10/12/2007, -8/+3You're right. Opera feels bloated and weird - very norwegian - and thats why i allways return to firefox.
- TheG2, on 10/12/2007, -4/+21If anything, Firefox has broken its original goals, a small, light, compact browser, but with every release, it's download size grows and it becomes slower and sucks up more memory.
- sicclife, on 10/12/2007, -5/+14ive used opera since it first came out. Always the best browser.
- TheG2, on 10/12/2007, -10/+34Once again, Opera innovates, Firefox/IE copies.
You open-source zealots need to read up on your facts. Opera is the fastest on the ACID test, has the most features with the smallest memory footprint, and is fully CSS, SVG, JS compliant. (SVG in Firefox is a joke natively by the way). Saying "i won't use it because its not open source" is like saying, sure I'd love the free Porsch, but I'm gonna be a jackass and take the beatup Volkswagon van. Seriously...
If Opera had the marketbase that Firefox had, the internet would be a much better place, both from a users and a developers point of view.- cyberoidx, on 10/12/2007, -5/+4http://digg.com/software/Which_browser_is_the_fastest_An_unbiased_test
Read people Read... stop writing your viewpoints and state facts instead... - FyberOptic, on 10/12/2007, -10/+7Ah, but you forget, Mozilla Corp. has a lovely FUD marketing team. They tell everyone Firefox is the fastest and safest browser, and everyone believes it without question!
Firefox has had how many extremely serious security vulnerabilities now..? Which browser comes in last in speed tests (even against IE)..? Oh that's right, Firefox. *****, even Mozilla beats Firefox in speed, and Mozilla is what Firefox used to be, just minus extension support and the catchy name.
It's amazing what a marketing team can do with the same'ol product that nobody liked before.
@ cyberoidx
Firefox fanboys see that and claim it's either a.) written by Opera fanboys, or b.) pull out the "but it's open source and has extensions" card instead, completely ignoring the speed issue when confronted with it. Same goes with security, or features, etc etc. Blind loyalty can't be changed with any amount of facts. - cyberoidx, on 10/12/2007, -6/+4@fyberoptic
should actually ask those "open source" supporters if they actuall, ever HAVE used the source, lol
So much for the "cool' quotient - stephenwq, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2This is being copied in the form of an extension. I pretty much use firefox for the extensions, otherwise i'd be using opera. Opera is probably the best browser from a fresh install, though i like the firefox extension system.
Open source is only useful to me in the fact that it allows PortableApps to modify it so i can take it anywhere. - manageMyRights, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1@cyberoidx
Those are interesting tests but they were also run on a Pentium III 800Mhz with 256Mb of ram. Maybe some of the results are CPU, memory, chipset, or even HDD bound.
I'd like to see the tests repeated with a modern setup with mulitple cores, ddr2, etc - palta38, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4@ stephenwq
you can use opera usb http://opera-usb.com/operausben.htm
- cyberoidx, on 10/12/2007, -5/+4http://digg.com/software/Which_browser_is_the_fastest_An_unbiased_test
- effinboy, on 10/12/2007, -5/+3Meh, I just use the Bookmarks Toolbar to goto my most used websites.
Move mouse and click VS. ctrl+variable - folex, on 02/19/2008, -4/+0That's a pretty nice extension. There's a similar(-ish) extenstion for FireFox called 'Morning Coffee', which I use. It opens a predefined set of tabs, depending on the day (e.g. I have it set to open Penny Arcade only on Mondays, Wednesdays & Fridays since the site is only updated then).
Not quite as fancy and drag 'n' droppable as this Screenshot / Speed Dial approach, but having control over what pages open on what day is pretty handy: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/2677 - diggPhile82, on 10/12/2007, -2/+15Why do I fail to see the point of this argument?
a.) They're both free
b.) they're both good
so what's the point? - benitojuarez, on 10/12/2007, -5/+1isnt the the same thing as IE7s quicktabs?
http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/8716/quicktabsec4.jpg- benitojuarez, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2At least provide an explaination instead of omg IE digg down.
- kelson, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2No, QuickTabs shows you the pages you currently have open, like MacOS's Expose. Speed Dial is essentially a set of bookmarks shown as thumbnails instead of a menu. It also has keyboard shortcuts so that, for instance, you just hit Ctrl+1 and it goes straight to your first Speed Dial page.
- benitojuarez, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1thank you.
- jamesblunt, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1@ idioticBug. Have you not heard of skins noob.
- iamdegenatron, on 10/12/2007, -5/+9Do I smell.... Opera envy?
- neau, on 10/12/2007, -6/+2Envy for what!? A feature that we already have?
- ForrestGump, on 10/12/2007, -9/+4@neau (#6593201)
when was the last time opera supported extensions?
Nuff said... go home - cyberoidx, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2@forrestgump
Why would we wanna extend something if it is already "long" enough ?
- johnbobshaun, on 10/12/2007, -10/+2I used Opera for about a year after it dropped the ads before returning to Firefox. Personal preference: I just think that the Opera UI takes up too much space and its really easy to customize Firefox's navigation tools into a single thin strip.
Sure, Opera has always innovated, but, speed dial aside, recently it feels like they've been firing blanks. The desktop gadgets and torrent client are completely unnecessary additions.- Nogger, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8Come again? Custimizing Opera's looks is as easy as it gets, and has been since version 7 at least. Firefox has gained, but has not reached Opera's level yet.. There is no problem whatsoever to make the UI slim. In fact, I have just a tiny bar with an address field and some buttons I use regulary and the tab bar, just like you prefer it.
I too do not care about the gadgets ( I use the Mac Dashboard) and I also prefer a separate torrent client. - dyzlexiK, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Torrents take up 40% of the internet. Why would adding a client be a bad decision?
- Nogger, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8Come again? Custimizing Opera's looks is as easy as it gets, and has been since version 7 at least. Firefox has gained, but has not reached Opera's level yet.. There is no problem whatsoever to make the UI slim. In fact, I have just a tiny bar with an address field and some buttons I use regulary and the tab bar, just like you prefer it.
- joseprio, on 10/12/2007, -4/+9I'm the author of this extension. Well, I didn't want to provoke yet another browser flame wars with my work... Isn't it true that imitation is the sincerest form of flattery? I thought that new Opera feature was interesting, and decided to offer an extension that offers similar functionality for Firefox Users. I decided not to change the name as a homage to the original.
Kudos to Opera, Firefox and IE teams for pushing the envelope and offer innovative features in their products, and also for adding useful things found in other products.- Shakermaker, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1I'm not sure how to work this....once it comes up with the numbered tiles, I don't know how to "add" pages to it.
- joseprio, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1There are several ways to assign an website to speed dial:
- Right click on a tab and choose "Set as Speed Dial"
- On the bookmarks menu "Set as Speed Dial"
- Right click anywhere in a website and choose "Set as Speed Dial"
- Add the new "Set as Speed Dial" button to your toolbar.
Note that a website has to be opened before adding it, and that's the fundamental difference with the original one. I had to implement it this way for technical reasons, and, hopefully, I'll be able to solve it in a future release. - Phennim, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Nice plugin, but it is unusable with the "mouse gestures 1.5.2" plugin.
When you make a gesture the speed dial links won't work anymore, and needs a restart of firefox. - joseprio, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Thanks, I'll check that and solve it in a future release.
- nicko68, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0It's pretty good. The only feature I really miss from the Opera version is being able to move entries around. In Opera you can do it via drag and drop on the speed dial page. If there is a way to do it with this extension, please let me know.
- iwantmyusername, on 10/12/2007, -4/+6typical, another great idea from the Opera people and everyone has to running after trying to catch up. just like Opera had tabs from day 1.
- soccerboi00, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Too bad Opera wasn't the first to have tabbed browsing, they apparently "stole" it from another company trying to catch up.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tabbed_browsing#Tabbed_browsing - cyberoidx, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3and where did tabbed browsing come from?
MDI : multi document interface... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opera_browser#MDI_and_Tabs
and then you cant turn opera into some word like you can turn firefox into fire****
Opera 2 : Firefox 0
Lol, so much for Fanboy-ism - soccerboi00, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1"in the field of publicly available web browsers"
In other words not the first. - cyberoidx, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1when was the last time you used a NON publicly available browser?
- jabberwockgee, on 05/23/2008, -0/+0Think of all the other things one could do with their time.
P.S. When opera can load gmail reliably, I'll think about using it. - jabberwockgee, on 05/23/2008, -0/+0Another reply: http://www.webdevout.net/firefox-myths
Notice, Opera was not the first browser to use tabs. Stop arguing about things you don't know about.
- jabberwockgee, on 05/23/2008, -0/+0Think of all the other things one could do with their time.
- soccerboi00, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Too bad Opera wasn't the first to have tabbed browsing, they apparently "stole" it from another company trying to catch up.
- Waredgo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Bottom line is: If you are using Firefox, here's a good extension. If you'd consider changing to a browser that already has many of these "new" extensions that are appearing for Firefox, just go to Opera.If you're already using Opera as your main browser, well, you know where your loyalties are and can grin and laugh at those who haven't yet really tried Opera out.
- codmate, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8Some people care *way* too much about what browser they use!
- iumentum, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5Personally, I like Opera because one night when I was drunk, I emailed their support/feedback and told them I was drunk. In their reply (the morning after) they were still really courteous and never once pointed out what an ass I was. I might add, they even pointed out a few features beneficial to those who are intoxicated or otherwise challenged.
I'd use Fire-fox, but they're just not as supportive of my drinking habits. - neau, on 10/12/2007, -4/+31. http://www.webdevout.net/firefox-myths
2. http://mywebpages.comcast.net/SupportCD/FirefoxMyths.html
The truth hurts. Sorry. - aquanutz, on 10/12/2007, -5/+10opera is like sex.
ff is like sex too.... with a fat chick.- ForrestGump, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3@aquanutz (#6593548)
and I would imagine IE bieng the HIV? - aquanutz, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2IE would be like having full blown AIDS, TB, CP and a cold.
- ForrestGump, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3@aquanutz (#6593548)
- jrcarscadden, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2When it comes to features, Opera is the best out of the box, but Firefox has the greatest potential via extensions.
Me, I usually go into phases where I'll use Opera for a while, then FF. I was experimenting with Opera's bit torrent and speed dial, and I found they work pretty good. So I'm using Opera now for the moment. - lobbster, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1you can do that in FF, just open tabs. and go to options and hit use current page. then there all your homepage
- qwerty1263, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1Oprah is cool but I prefer Rosie on the view she can download faster.
- aquanutz, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Oh I get it.. You were making a joke. I like jokes.
- soccerboi00, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2What's with all the Firefox hate? Firefox is great, it was the browser that in this day and time, stopped many non-techy people from using Internet Explorer. Now how is that a bad thing? Firefox is a great browser, it does everything I want it too. They are also slimming it up for the next release, they realized that they have strayed from the original goals and are working to improve that for Firefox 3. I've tried switching to Opera, but it just doesn't work for me. The menus are cluttered with all of these features that I don't use. Web browsing is a simple thing for me, I don't need much out of it. If I want a feature, I'll just add it myself.
Now watch all of the Opera fanboys that have overthrown this thread digg me down.- soccerboi00, on 10/12/2007, -4/+4After posting this comment, I went and downloaded the latest Firefox Alpha 3, and I've noticed a few things
1. It is MUCH faster
2. It passes the Acid2 Test perfectly
3. The digg up and down buttons don't lag any more
4. No matter how many tabs I have open, it keeps it under 50mb of memory.
It's an improvement, still not perfect, but it's nice to see that they are moving in the right direction.
- soccerboi00, on 10/12/2007, -4/+4After posting this comment, I went and downloaded the latest Firefox Alpha 3, and I've noticed a few things
- wiihuck, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2so far with opera (i downloaded it because you guys said so):
gmail won't load in speed dial.
google calendar isn't supported in opera. (it seems to work, but getting the "this won't work" dialog everytime is pretty annoying.)
it's missing my most used extension from firefox (superdragandgo to drag a link to open in a new tab in the background.)
i guess i don't understand the point of speed dial. i'm pretty dependent on my bookmark toolbar. i don't have nine sites that i want "open" access to all the time. i just have a bunch that i want access to. more than half of my toolbar is made up of folders. speed dial can't give me that. i started a "personal toolbar" but it's not quite what i'm looking for. i can't find a spacer that actually works. the dynamic spacer didn't do anything, and the fixed spacer is too big... i just want a "line separator" like my toolbar in firefox.
i don't know. i'll keep it on my computer for a while and give it a shot, but i just use superdrag and go so much, i hope that when i google around i can find something like it.- BAMAToNE, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Google's failure to test their code in Opera or their decision to actively block Opera is not Opera's fault.
In the meantime:
http://operawatch.com/news/2007/04/update-how-to-make-google-services-opera-friendly.html
You're right about the Gmail preview not loading in Speed Dial. But the link itself works fine. Just click it and it goes. (You can also use the Ctrl+number shortcut.)
I didn't really see the point of Speed Dial myself until I started using mouse gestures. Now with the flick of the wrist I can open a new tab, then click on a Speed Dial site is much less time than it takes to hit ctrl+t or click "New tab." It's pretty amazing. - dgr814vr, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2I suggest you try this. Right click on the page that doesnt work.
choose "Edit Site Preferences" and then under Network choose "Mask as Internet Explorer" or "Mask as Firefox"
In my experience this has always worked which also just proves to me that while Opera can handle the Page Code and Language it is the Sites that refuse to support the browser and rather than transmit the proper HTML they send the "We suggest you use Blah Blah Blah Browser"
Sorry that is not the way the Web is supposed to work - wiihuck, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2first of all, i wasn't passing blame on opera. i couldn't care less who's at fault. i'm just trying to get the best browsing experience. if the calendar that i use doesn't work in opera, i'm not going to use opera.
that being said, i'll give the suggestions a shot.
i've had mouse gestures with firefox for years. i've got one-click access to my "top nine" sites in my bookmark toolbar at all times, instead of having to open a new tab, then click. i just click.
- BAMAToNE, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Google's failure to test their code in Opera or their decision to actively block Opera is not Opera's fault.
- perydell, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1Opera did not invent this anyway. You can go back to the year 2000 to find a company (now defunct) that designed a browser that did this. It was called websplit.
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_zdpcm/is_200010/ai_ziff6904 - docjeff, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1When Opera provides SOCKS support, I will reconsider it but not until then.
And you can set your homepage in Firefox to be a group of tabs (sites) so it already has a sort of speeddial built-in.- tienm23, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2I've been waiting for Socks support forever as well. I love Opera, just can't use it work.
- dgr814vr, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2You can set your Home Session in Opera to Open with Multiple Tabs as well.
And Speed dial is not the same thing as multiple home pages/tabs.
Please Try it on either platform you might enjoy it. I mean Bandwith issues cannot be an reason to not download them these days.
- slapout, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3Opera: Providing Firefox with feature ideas for the last four years!
- theillest1, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2I fell in love with Opera a few years ago, but then it got slow and cumbersome after a few major updates so I tried other browsers such as Avant and Firefox. Eventually I decided to hop in bed with Mozilla and have remained there since I made the transition. I even downloaded it on my PC at work (shhhhh!) However after reading these comments I just might give Opera another shot.
- BlameCanada, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1Features are meaningless. What it all comes down to is superficial stuff like name and logo. Firefox sounds bad ass. Opera? What are you a bunch of singing nancy boys? Also too easily confused with Oprah, but that's understandable considering the user base.
"Scooter! What did he just say? Is he berating our beloved Internet browser?"
"Don't worry Todd, it will be ok. Come here, I'll give you a hug and comfort you." - nferrara1987, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2I find it so funny that there is all this back and forth about which is better, Opera vs Firefox (because we all can admit is that IE in all its forms is the devil). Each side has its advantages and disadvantages. In the end its a matter of preferance. I used FireFox before I switched to Opera, and I find that Opera suits my needs better.
Why is it that everyone is trying to convince everyone else that their way is better.
Try them both for yourself and choose the one that you like more. (But I'm still willing to bet that you will pick opera =P) - aznwild0, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0Firefox is poor copy of Opera. Tabbed browsing, automatic session saving, page zooming and pop-up blocking were already offered years ago(1994, 1996, 1996, 2000 respectively). And Opera is and will always remain years ahead.
Firefox fanboys are those who hopped onto the internet a generation behind those who make a living in the IT industry and actually know what they're talking about. Sorry. Opera was the champion first. - UltravioletMars, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Speed dial? I shut it off. Don't need the gimmicks. My Mom however, LOVES it.
(there, that should kill it)- cyberoidx, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Your mom LOVES YOU.
- coheedcollapse, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1For a group of people who whack off at the very notion of "open source" you guys sure want to get in a gangbang with Opera. It's good, but it's not the second coming.
- iimvxk, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0my pc had 1.3 Ghz processor and 128Mb of ram,,, and only i can say ::
Opera runs faster than Firefox...
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