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- luchid, on 12/19/2007, -1/+126FTA: During the Firefox 3 development cycle, over 300 individual memory leaks have been plugged and many more are eliminated by the new XPCOM cycle collector. In beta 2, more than 30 additional memory leaks have been fixed, and there have been 11 improvements to the Firefox memory footprint.
Awesome! Exactly what people were asking for! We love you, devs! - offput, on 12/19/2007, -2/+76Is it just me or does digg never stop loading with Firefox 3. The loading throbber is never replaced by digg's favicon.
- ujjwal, on 12/19/2007, -1/+71I am glad that Firefox is going in the right direction with version 3. They are concentrating on improving performance, and adding subtle improvements to the interface. The beta 1 made me consider moving away from Opera, and I am hoping that the final release is good enough for that to happen.
- borninda818, on 12/19/2007, -0/+65I blame digg.
- mhanley, on 12/19/2007, -2/+22That's not just with ff3. I see the same behavior with ff2.
- danihell, on 12/19/2007, -0/+19Same thing happens to Opera 9.24 and 9.5.
Could it be related to the ads? - inactive, on 12/19/2007, -0/+16*rolls eyes*
- wvdavis, on 12/19/2007, -7/+18In other news, Bill Gates breaks his toe while kicking his chair over.
- luchid, on 12/19/2007, -1/+12Did you even read TFA? It says resource handling and memory footprint have been tremendously improved.
- ralph123, on 12/19/2007, -0/+11Get the Nightly Tester Tools and make them work:
http://www.oxymoronical.com/web/firefox/nightly - mrplatts, on 12/19/2007, -0/+11Yeah, but most of his stock didn't
- inactive, on 12/19/2007, -4/+14Sheesh, I do not like the superhuge text size on pulldowns in the address bar. Anyone know how to change this?
- Ancestor, on 12/19/2007, -2/+12"What happened to: "those were features, not memory leaks", or "those memory leaks are all in 3rd party plugins"
Nothing happened to them, they are still true. There is just no simple answer, some of the increased memory usage comes from the things you just mentioned, others are caused by leaks.
"This is the first thing I've read where someone from mozilla admits they had even one single memory leak"
Then you must have lived under a rock for at least a year. - adml_shake, on 12/19/2007, -0/+9Looks like it's running in Linux.
- gcauthon, on 12/19/2007, -9/+17What happened to: "those were features, not memory leaks", or "those memory leaks are all in 3rd party plugins" or "you've just got too many tabs open"? This is the first thing I've read where someone from mozilla admits they had even one single memory leak, let alone 330. Wow, disinformation much? I almost started believing that the high memory usage was all my fault.
- SkaheadVa, on 12/19/2007, -0/+8Its a beta, give the writers of the extensions time and they will update them... same thing happened when we went from 1.x --> 2.0.
On another note, just to reiterate... yay for the memory leak plugs and fixes! - ctrlfreak13, on 12/19/2007, -0/+7Think you meant this: http://en-us.www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/3.0b2/w ...
- caseyh, on 12/19/2007, -0/+7Download FF3b2: http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/all-beta.html
- Grjemo, on 12/20/2007, -1/+7I have both. They each have advantages and disadvantages. You don't have to be such a fanboy.
- Fergy, on 12/20/2007, -0/+6What Mozilla was saying is that the 400+MB memory usage is not because of memory leaks. The 300 leaks that were patched were very minor to the amount of a few KB's per week. Mozilla thought it would be because of the caching but that has been ruled out with the extension RAMBack (you can try it in Firefox3 beta). With this extension you can clean out all the caches. Memory drops at most 8MB with 30 tabs.
The really interesting thing is that it is probably because of memory fragmentation. If a lot of 4KB blocks are filled with 1byte files you can quickly use a lot of memory but you can't give it back to the OS because the blocks are in use. They are just not fully in use. A lot of people at Mozilla are working very hard on this and it is very likely that we will see at least part of this work get in Firefox3. - MikeonTV, on 12/19/2007, -6/+11Trade all my extensions for something called Firefox organizer? I don't think so!
- tw3nty3ight, on 12/19/2007, -0/+5Ya I think my comment was taken the wrong way lol, the Beta is SWEET. I just wasnt thinking ahead about my extentions not being supported yet, and was dumb on my part. I just didnt have time so had to switch back to 2.0 :(
- djh816, on 12/19/2007, -0/+5Direct dl link: http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/all-beta.html
- inactive, on 12/19/2007, -4/+9They've just realized that its better to LISTEN to your users than treat them like idiots.
- Raian, on 12/19/2007, -1/+6I am a Mac user (and avid Safari supporter)-- And I have to say I'm fairly impressed with the new theme for OS X that they are currently testing... it's called Proto and you can download it here: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/605 ...
Firefox is finally starting to feel like a Mac OS App. - praveenmarkandu, on 12/19/2007, -0/+5found the solution yesterday by accident on the firefox IRC channel. you are using adblock plus and might have loaded a subscription like easylist. easylist adds an exception when it comes to filtering ads1.msn.com (or something like that). best thing to do is to delete the easylist subscription. if the probelm persist, best you keep deleting subscriptions until the loading stops
- TPHigginbotham, on 12/19/2007, -0/+4A good portion of the article is talking about the "Linux visual refresh", so it's only fitting that the screen shots show it off.
- Raian, on 12/19/2007, -0/+4I didn't copy the whole url over-- woops https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/605 ... ...
Digg seems to be cutting off the url the addon number is 6050 - sgoogle, on 12/19/2007, -1/+5Over 300 fixed memory leaks, better resource handling, and smaller memory footprint. RTA next time
- LordofChaosIori, on 12/19/2007, -0/+3It looks the same. RTFA.
- norbiu, on 12/19/2007, -0/+3It loads forever and the share button doesn't work. I have to "stop loading the page" first.
Transferring data from y.digg.com... - CondoleezzaRice, on 12/20/2007, -1/+4IE sells windows.
- kahrn, on 12/19/2007, -0/+3I'm a big fan of using slower (slower not always equal to _old_ or _incapable_) systems. While the comment you made is true for firefox 2, hopefully with all these improvements it will not be the case for version 3.
- ctrlfreak13, on 12/19/2007, -1/+4The new URL completion display they put in Beta 2 kinda bothers me; though it is a great addition that it searches throughout the entire URL and the page title now (been enjoying it in ff3b1).
- Ignitedude, on 12/19/2007, -0/+3The Digg system has been 'corrupt' for a while.
- praveenmarkandu, on 12/20/2007, -0/+3dont disable adblock. add an exception to http://ads1.msn.com/library/dap.js
by adding a new filter and typing @@http://ads1.msn.com/*
easylist adds an exception and shows MSN adds(bastards) so you have to remove easylist subscription first - rarson, on 12/19/2007, -1/+4I don't get that with Firefox 2. I'm using Tab Mix Plus, which might have something to do with it.
- SkaheadVa, on 12/19/2007, -0/+2True, but the developer tool bar extensions makes sure most site render perfectly in Firefox first (since most developers i know code in this) ... then tweaked (sometimes hacked.. if its a poor developer) for IE... and finally Opera and other browsers. Thus more sites render correctly on FF then Opera. That said, I use Opera for everything until i run into a site that looks messy, then i use FF...
- Duositex, on 12/19/2007, -0/+2Bookmark keywords don't work the way they used to: if you have a keyword that is more than one word, it will chop off the second word and ignore it. This wasn't the case in Firefox 2 and I reported it already. Another feature that seems not to work correctly is the tags search in the updated autocomplete bar. If I have a thousand bookmarks and hundreds of tags, I want the bookmarks to display that match ALL of the tags I type in the autocomplete bar. Not ANY of the tags. I should at least be able to specify which element is being searched as with google searches. e.g. "tags:tech, news, apple" or perhaps "url:guns, ammo, beer" etc. Right now it seems like a great addition to Firefox that has lots of room for improvement that I look forward to for Firefox 3.1
- bowe, on 12/20/2007, -0/+2there is an option to enable smooth scrolling in the prefs.(In FF2 at least.) It's off by default.
Tools-Options-Advanced-General Tab - Use Smooth Scrolling. - inactive, on 12/19/2007, -0/+2Ya, that is the one thing holding me back from switching up to the beta's. My Extensions are just to important to let go of. Once more of them are implemented, I'm all there.
- Onestone, on 12/19/2007, -0/+2Possible, but unlikely. I tried with AdBlock switched on and off, it doesn't finish loading either way.
- Apoy, on 12/20/2007, -0/+2I can see beta 2 renders like the way opera renders pages. Very cool, makes it faster.
- Onestone, on 12/19/2007, -0/+2That's not the cause. I have AdBlock Plus with Easylist, but Digg doesn't finish loading even with AdBlock switched off.
- thegreatanti, on 12/20/2007, -0/+1Nobody ***** cares about that ***** Opera!
- delfin1, on 02/09/2008, -0/+1maybe, i had the same problem with other sites that also have ads, but then again almost every site has ads.
- djh816, on 12/22/2007, -0/+1I am saying, that smoothscrolling (at least on my macbook pro) has a very slugish feel too it. Nowhere near as good as safari's.
- mvent2, on 12/19/2007, -0/+1Because there is no difference in appearance yet on Mac OS or Windows. Linux is the only one so far that has received a significant refresh in the mainline builds.
- delfin1, on 02/09/2008, -0/+1I am using FireFox3 beta2 and i still get this problem. I think it makes whole firefox slower right?, when you have a page loading.
I still keep Firefox 2 which stops loading quickly. And i have no special addons. - ToastyMallows, on 12/20/2007, -2/+3Buried, Duplicate on the top 10 already.
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