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- Kinjiru, on 11/06/2007, -45/+283IE..aka Internet exploder
your time has come.. to DIE :)
http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/8053/mozillabadgely0.png - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -25/+145I just wish the bugs in firefox would be working out at the same rates it is growing.
- fkr3, on 10/11/2007, -20/+139W3Counter has a small and very skewed userbase picked up from sitepoint and other webmaster forums, and have no relation to the W3. Come back when a major player like StatCounter, who track stats on a massive and diverse range of websites, releases numbers.
- epyon180, on 10/11/2007, -5/+121I love how internet explorer 6.0 usage went up and 7.0 went down compared to 10 days ago.
- demonotaku, on 10/11/2007, -16/+106It gave me a good laugh to see that Windows 98 is higher than Linux.
*prepares to be dugg down* - AKBryant54, on 10/11/2007, -14/+94My entire high school just uninstalled IE and switched to firefox. Interesting because whenever I would install it, they would uninstall it and make me use IE.
- Mast3rDigg3r, on 10/11/2007, -2/+639 AOL 6.0 0.58%
STILL? - Aupajo, on 10/11/2007, -7/+67I'm running Firefox on OS X in New Zealand. I've got to be one of the smallest groups of statistics available. Go minorities!
- patkirkrick, on 10/11/2007, -5/+57I hate to point out the elephant in the living room, but Latvia beating Canada?
- SimonGray, on 10/11/2007, -6/+51Of course it is. Tell me, why does Latvia a relatively poor Eastern European country with a population of just over 2 million people do 4% of the total visits, while France, a rich Western European country with over 60 million inhabitants only do 3%? How you can you call this accurate? The US numbers are also very inflated.
- pauleric, on 10/11/2007, -7/+45@thamoose: "...Opera has no known bugs, never has memory leaks..."
Oh Ya,sure. Opera is a nice browser and all, but all non-trivial software has bugs. Even most trivial software has them. If the bugs aren't "known" it's only because nobody's looking for them, and they should be. Now if you said: when security bugs are reported, they fix them more promptly than the other major browsers, then you'd be on safer ground. - djg38, on 10/11/2007, -9/+46I wore mine to get a haircut and the hair dresser was like "oh you're locked down?" and I'm like "whattt???" and she' like "Firefox! It's secure!".
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -2/+36They can track not just your screen resolution but your IP address, OS version, how many colors your screen is currently showing, time of day you visited, page views, path through website, how long you visited each page.... even where your mouse clicks.
Check out Google Analytics (formerly Urchin)... it is perhaps the best tracking system available. - EndersGame, on 10/11/2007, -10/+40"Don't try to blindly defend firefox. Even us firefox users know that the memory leak is a common problem with firefox."
Blindly defend? I don't like it taking up as much memory as it does either, all I was saying was I find it hard to believe he got his firefox to reach 600 megs. And since you seem confused I will let my fellow diggers explain it to you:
"Besides as mentioned above it is a design issue rather than a mistake. It is supposed to absorb large amounts of memory when that memory is sitting ideal (though I've seriously have no issues with it). It certainly isn't a memory leak issue." -GMorgan
"And don't even get me started saying it's a "memory leak"; 98% of people saying that aren't developers, 1% are developers and are submitting patches, and the other 1% are developers who just want to rain on Mozilla's popularity parade. Here's the deal: Firefox isn't hemorraging memory, period. If it was, we could see it, we've developed tools that allow us to track allocations, reallocations and deallocations of memory. It's not leaking memory, just using a lot of memory to make your browsing a comfortable, fast experience." -geminitojanus
Rather than just making ***** up off the top of your head or repeating the last ten people before you, why don't you explain to me how you know its a memory leak. I don't think I should hold my breath for this one. - oMeSSiaHo, on 10/11/2007, -3/+33I think whats most shocking is 800x600 is the third most common resolution. Is it 15" monitors or do people really like blocky desktops?
- themoose, on 10/11/2007, -26/+53I'm going to get dugg down for this one but Opera has no known bugs, never has memory leaks, has more features than Firefox and still manages to not be bloated.
http://www.opera.com/products/desktop/
As a web developer the 25% is great news, not specifically because it's firefox but because IE is going down. - Toupee, on 10/11/2007, -9/+35You know, I wore my Firefox shirt on the town yesterday and two people totally out of the blue commented!
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -3/+29Yeah that's what I noticed as well. There's no way Latvia has the fourth highest net presence. Makes the whole survey a bit specious.
- aussieNickuss, on 10/11/2007, -10/+35@ strangewill & fkr3
It said at the bottom of the page that its based on 31 million requests on 4358 websites. That numbers nothing compared to the overall internet buts a pretty good indication.
What makes those numbers sound better is by saying that Firefox has 8% greater share than IE7 and is only 50% of IE6' share. - j0keR, on 10/11/2007, -5/+28It's probably safe to say that Windows Genuine has a lot to do with this number, with needing either a legit copy of Windows or a crack in order to get IE7.
- anagoge, on 10/11/2007, -5/+28RUN! THERE'S AN ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM!
- zanjabeel, on 10/11/2007, -3/+24actually this proves that wider market share doesn't indicate better product.
- MrViklund, on 10/11/2007, -3/+23Strange that Sweden isn't even in top 10. What have we done wrong? :/
- gvetterick, on 10/11/2007, -3/+23@Aupajo
I'm running Firefox on Linux in Australia, my minority may be smaller - whiterajah, on 10/11/2007, -1/+20Here's an interesting one:
Mac OS X 3.87%
Safari 2.0 1.94%
therefore: half of all mac visitors were not using the browser that comes as standard on OS X - fullphaser, on 10/11/2007, -4/+22People are just blind, old people can't see
- brownspank, on 10/11/2007, -6/+23@cowboy77061: No, browser fanboys suck.
- brownzilla, on 10/11/2007, -0/+15Its better than IE but I agree, it seems to have gotten a bit bloated. May I suggest Opera at the risk of getting dugg down.
- Disease, on 10/11/2007, -0/+14@Chewie67
I wanna meet the 12 people using Netscape 1.x - rick1matthews, on 10/11/2007, -0/+14I run the web site for my Baptist church in central North Carolina, USA, and we have 21% Firefox + 2% Mozilla. This is not exactly a tech-heavy demographic.
- strangewill, on 10/11/2007, -4/+17@aussieNickuss:
Aye I understand, and the growth is nice, just it's easy for these numbers to be skewed, due to who reads my site, we got like a 80% Firefox usage. ;) I'm just saying we're NOT 25% of the market yet, it would be nice, but is not a reality yet. - paulmdx, on 10/11/2007, -7/+20Opera aren't doing themselves any favours by having point releases listed separately. They would be better off with "Opera 9" instead of 9.0 and 9.1. Look at IE - you don't see "IE 6.0 SP1", etc.
- djg38, on 10/11/2007, -3/+16metalica77: JavaScript makes your screen resolution available via screen.width and screen.height. Same as every web tracker gets it. How W3Counter gathers its data is at the bottom of the report.
- Branden, on 10/11/2007, -3/+15I heard you the first time.
- brownspank, on 10/11/2007, -1/+13Don't wreck your calculator. There's this thing called ROUNDING UP.
- fkr3, on 10/11/2007, -5/+17My 71 year old friend uses 1440x900. With binoculars.
- kitkatsavvy, on 10/11/2007, -4/+15p.s. i use IE when some sites don't work with Opera (ie panda, trendmicro antivirus, maybe windows update too)...
its a good backup browser to have ... then again, you haven't really got a choice when its inbuilt into the OS. - djg38, on 10/11/2007, -1/+122+2=5 for very large values of 2
- SimonGray, on 10/11/2007, -2/+13No, because the results don't represent anything worldwide. Latvia is at 4% ffs. Latvia, 2 million people in Eastern Europe have made 4% of all visits...? Explain that one to me.
- dyn06, on 10/11/2007, -12/+22It's not a skewed number, really, because:
"This report was generated 05/20/2007 based on the last 31,612,302 unique visits to 4,356 websites." ... not on visits to this single site. - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -1/+11They're blocked from the list.
- ander1dw, on 10/11/2007, -5/+14Mouse Gestures extension for the "mouse functions," IE Tab or IE View extensions for "compatibility."
- ErinIsADrunk, on 10/11/2007, -4/+13its amazing to see how much Firefox is penetrating into the mainstream market now. People who I wouldn't consider to be tech savy including my parents use Firefox and tell me how much better it is then that "old one" they used to use.
- stimpack, on 10/11/2007, -0/+9Don't digg him down, Konqueror is frighteningly good. I use Firefox because I run multiple platforms and want a common browser with a mass of plugins, but Konq is superb.
- RamboJesus, on 10/11/2007, -2/+11Only 25%... man we need to get our act together.
There is no reason why our family and friends should be using IE.
Do we hate them or something? - ambushxx, on 10/11/2007, -2/+11Strange..China isnt even in the list but latvia has 4%
china has 136 million internet users according to this
http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9588_22-6152408.html
Go figure - skyfire1, on 10/11/2007, -3/+11MEOW!!!!
http://www.roflcat.com/images/cats/firefoxcat.jpg - PueSi, on 10/11/2007, -1/+8I'm using 800x600, my 15" SyncMaster 450b is not going anywhere until it dies.
- fugazied, on 10/11/2007, -0/+7I've been a Firefox user from early days but the last version seemed a bit slower (used to be blazing fast in early days) and occaisionally crashes from what I assume are memory leaks. I'm still using it 90% of the time, but mainly for the incredible web dev tools - web developer bar and firebug. Incredibly useful. Firefox CSS support just puts Microsoft to shame, and web developer worth their salt knows how bad IE still is in terms of standards so Firefox is far ahead there.
But as far as browser speed (this will get me dugg down) Opera really has seemed to pass Firefox lately. - kris33, on 10/11/2007, -3/+10I think it is the older versions of Apple OS, OS1 to OS9.
The reason why 1600x1200 isn't on the list is probably because it's 4:3 and almost all new high end screens are widescreen now. -
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