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- deathguppie, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4"I think I'm the only person on the planet that hates tabbed browsing."
Ya, that's interesting. You don't actually have to even use it. But you hate it. Like, I hate the little plastic spoon that comes with my lunch crackers. I hate it. It just sits there being plastic.. Looking at me. Like a stupid little plastic spoon. Laughing at me while I use the metal knife I brought from home.. I don't want it there, but there it is. Taunting me with it's "I came prepackaged, but you wont use me will you. You'd rather bring your own knife, and then take it home and wash it".
I don't care what the stupid spoon thinks.. it's just a stupid spoon.. why won't it go away.. AAAAAAAAH!!!! - dawgma, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2^^^scratch that about cotnacting Mozilla^^^
"The one and only memory usage thread & FAQ" at the Firefox Web forum
http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?t=354828&sid=3481d24d34d93340a8ca7f01b2e5e688
They've probably heard enough already. - merdeisel, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4"Real men put enough memory in their machine so that they do not have to worry about stupid things like resources"
is that something your wife said? - raccettura, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I'm curious how many people here are participating in memory leak testing as David Baron notes on his blog:
http://dbaron.org/log/2006-01
Lots of people complain about it being so obvious to detect, yet not many actually report bugs with specific data to help fix them. Rather ironic ;-). - dbpigeon, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2I was hoping to see more features like less resource hogging and some original feature.
- SaintStryfe, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1guys, if it's a memory leak: Close the freak'n program every few hours. That's all. It happens. They'll fix it in the next version. Don't act like it's a world-shaker. Close the progam. THe Go menu has the last place you went to. Not Hard!
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1blech, blog. hahah j/k. I don't think firefox 2.0 is in need of a whole lot of new features, that's what extensions are for. They should just keep working on making it faster, more stable, and memory efficient, also keeping gecko up to date. If they were to add more functionality they should maybe just integrate basic extensions like adblock (plus), tabmix, noscript, permit cookies, etc...
- Tweekster, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1good god, stop bitching about memory usage...
maybe you should upgrade beyong 64 megs of ram and you wont have that problem..
or you will bitch no matter what aka "WHAT, it takes .500 milliseconds more to start than IE, MY GOD THATS SOOO SLOW"
I run two windows, with 10 tabs a piece and sure it uses more memory than it should, BUT OHWELLL, i got the hell over it. - haelios, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Use Opera. It has all and more than Firefox neat and has many of the features of the most common extensions too.
- pupa, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1JPEG2000 support? PLEASE
- haelios, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"THATS WHAT I HAVE THE RAM FOR!"
Do the same stuff in Opera (bar some obscure extensions) and use even less memory. Efficiency: that's what you have a brain for. - dawgma, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1A quick search of this thread shows over 30 instances of the word "memory."
I hope Mozilla is listening. Real hard.
Trim the Fat. - Icecream, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1To the Few People at the Top of the Comments on this Story!
Why are you Bitching about RAM of a Open Source Program, Fix it yourself and everyone will love you for it im sure. Or buy another Stick of Ram, i have never had Probs with Fire Fox in realtation to Ram - skabyss, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2"I think I'm the only person on the planet that hates tabbed browsing."
There is no logical reason to hate it, a feeling of indifference shure, but hating it is just ignorant. - FullMetalMonkey, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2I hope Firefox 2.0 doesn't use as much memory as 1.5!
- liquidedge, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Cool! An all new version to break my extensions!
- gsmithEIDW, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I can't understand why the spell checker will be provided embedded in 2.0 rather than as an optional extension. Surely that was part of the beauty of Firefox, that the extensions provides the features that are important to each individual.
I can understand that novice users may not be immediately aware of the power of using extensions, perhaps on first run (post install) they could be prompted whether they would like some of the more basic suggested/popular extensions. - sakibomb, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0someone posted that the word "memory" had showed up 30 times in comments and that he hoped the developers were listening. i hope they are too...
memory memory memory memory memory memory memory memory memory memory memory memory memory memory memory memory memory memory memory memory memory memory memory memory memory memory memory memory memory memory memory memory memory! - HPSauce, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0It's using up 380MB of memory for me; but considering I have 180(!) tabs open, that's not too bad at all. Since early Firefox I'vehad problems with random crashes, stalling - and the problem? Adblock! I only just heard about this, and since I 've used from the start I alwasys though it was 100% reliable. The difference is no more browser frustation - Firefox is working exactly as intended! (until the next crash)
- veracon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I'd rather do without these features, but hey, I guess that's the cycle of a web browser.
- anorris, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Doesn't hog memory for me. I run 1.5 and presently have 17 tabs open. I'm using 82,000K of memory for firefox.exe
- HPSauce, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Also, I recommend the latest version of Tab Mix Plus; not only does it extend tab usuability, but it comes with the best Session Manager for FF - it saves automatically if FF crashes, and remembers your last tabs, unlike SessionSaver, which doesn't always save your tabs after crashes, and not in the order you set them.
- minitechnik, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0AdBlock was a problem for me twice. First it blocked my gmail, second it hogged the memory. now everything is very fine.
i have alway about 20 to 30 tabs open, plus i have like 40 extensions. while firefox started as a separation of the browser from mozilla it made plugins possible.
ok, it is indeed using 3xx MB of my 512 available, but i have to admit - its one of the programs where i clearly say - THATS WHAT I HAVE THE RAM FOR! i want the best internet experience - and the only programm that does all the things for me is firefox.
my pageloads get lower, if i restart from time to time, plus if i just use less tabs (oh and digg takes a lot)
btw, dont wonder if you all are happy about ajax and all the stuff - THEY take a lot of your memory, not the firefox.
go ahead to some plain html website open them 30 times and take a look at your memory usage.
best of it - take the usb version without installation, start it from usb (just firefox, no extensions, no themes - nothing!) , open up 10 tabs of a plain html website - and then lets discuss the thing again.
i really wonder how people always bitch around with the fox. ok its good if we have less memory usage, but never forget - you don't pay anything for it directly, and you can't always have EVERYTHING FUNCTIONAL, in BEST QUALITY, with FULL IMMEDIATE SUPPORT, while its still THE FASTEST (lets just say it should have no pageload-time)
really all you guys suck as long as you dont provide the others with a better way. i feel like bitching around with this is the wrong way. and i tried a lot of browsers from safari, camino to mozilla suite, opera, netscape and the explorer. i never had such a great developed browser working that much out for me.
no, its not about having less bugs, or pageload - its really the overall webexperience. if your favourite website is not made to be loaded in less time, then the fox is not the only thing to aim at. i can have a 400x400 gif picture at 2kb, but i can also make a pdf from it, or a jpeg with 20kb.
the fox has to work with a ton of plugins and themes right now... and they are all made by humans. its the result of many hands that not even spoke to each other. - dawgma, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Come to think of it, how can you contact the Mozilla developers? I can't find an e-mail address on their site, and I'd like to point them towards this thread, along with a few other links.
Just to be sure. - Ghostgum, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"So does anyone know of any new Myths in 2.0?"
Mastertech, do you have any clue how desperate you sound?
Here's just some of the replies to those so called Firefox myths...
http://robert.accettura.com/archives/2005/12/19/firefox-myths/
http://nanobox.chipx86.com/blog/2005/12/re-firefox-myths.php
http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?t=356670
Your so called "myths" are merely FUD you've made up in a desperate bid for attention and pageviews.
Stop spamming digg with your crappy site. No one cares what you think of some freakin' browser anyway. - multifaceted, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I have never had memory problems.
- mateo60, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Will they keep the features of hogging memory and daily crashes??
- yavis, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Hmm.. not sure if I really need all those new features. I like to keep my browsers lite and fast. I just hope they can reduce the memory usage in 2.0.
- NippleNutz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0CSS 3? Please?
- fujikofujio, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0make it more stable please, no more crashes especially when I'm in the middle of an online transaction! don't care much about fancy stuff (visual look etc) just give me back the old stable firefox!
- Smokezz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0You don't like tabbed browsing? DON'T USE IT. Its not hard...
- Dabellah, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"Survey for uninstalling"
... I HATE THIS CRAP!!! I am uninstalling something to get away from it as quickly as possible or to fix some bugs that might be occuring. Why in the hell would I want to take even more time to tell them their program is bugged when I already have to take time to uninstall/reinstall or do away with because of their bugs in the first place? I can understand some people filling this out to "help" development, but damnit thsi should be an optional thing. I hate being bugged! - Jammerdelray, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0uninstalled adblock, installed adblock plus as reccomended, updated java to latest, did not touch anything in about:config,no firefox preloader since it loads pretty fast anyways....fasterfox set to no prefetch. Memory Leak solved atleast for me....56k being used! more tabs open = more memory. Also make sure you install 1.5 from a clean install reinstalling everything from scratch. Hope it helps.
- Mutifus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0*sigh*
We don't need lots of features - just a good solid fast browser that isn't the a software-equivalent of a swiss army knife! - xtracto, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0It is curious how a lot of people is complaining about "memory hogs" or "memory leak". I remember when Firefox was just starting, they said it was going to be the lite standalone browser, and that they where making a browser separated from the Mozilla suite because it was a big resource eater.
Now I have installed Mozilla suite and its size is 67MB vs 142MB of Firefox, both have the same 2 tabs opened (Gmail and Digg). I do not use adblock as I use privoxy for ad blocking (and I would recommend it as it works for every browser you have.
So yes, I hope the firefox guys are really thinking on decreasing the memory leaks for firefox 2.0, I have not tried Internet Explorer 7 but I have seen some screenshots and it seems really nice. If IE7 is as good as Firefox then it has won because the resources IE7 will use are the ones used by default for Windows (unless you are on Linux) and installing Firefox would be doubling the resource usage. - Xophmeister, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Also - why did it just feel the need to post my comment twice!?
- wetelectric, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"http://mywebpages.comcast.net/SupportCD/FirefoxMyths.html" wow FUD. a masterclass
- starwed, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0It's interesting that digg comments have such an anti-firefox slant. It's also stupid stupid stupid to keep bitching about the memory issue. If it's so obvious, why have I never experianced it, and why can nobobdy provide steps to consistantly reproduce it?
If you really care about the memory leaks, read dbarons post about how to report them. - inkswamp, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"And of course, if this was Microsoft, EVETYONE would be complainig (no, bitching like a little girl) about how they keep adding all these bells and whistles without addressing the real problem...."
Of course, if this was Microsoft, we would be talking about one of the biggest corporations on the planet, with cash and resources at their disposal beyond anything you and I could imagine, that keeps dishing out flawed and half-assed software to **paying customers**. However, it isn't Microsoft. It's a group of software developers working on an open source project the result of which is freely available to others. I'm not sure why complaints about a free product created by people in their spare time should be expected to reach the same pitch as complaints about paid software from a powerful and wealthy company. - walt100, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0A survey on uninstall? I don't plan on uninstalling Firefox 2.0, but I HATE when companies do that!
- Xophmeister, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I keep trying to figure this out... WHY would a web-browser need a spell checker?
Also, I've been reading a lot of comments on Firefox being a pig and even crashing a lot. I run it on my machine at home (it's six years old: I recently managed to upgrade it to the giddy-heights of 1.2GHz; still running only 384Mb RAM, for now) and it works like a charm... However, I've put it on my machine at work (512Mb RAM, 4.something GHz P4, etc.) and not only is it no faster, it often crashes... The only major difference I can see is I run Win2K, whist they have XP here. - LaCamiseta, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I have 1.5 gb of ram in my iBook, it's not uncommon that I get firefox to fill up more than 500mb of space (sometimes >700mb). That's why I've pretty much switched over to Safari. It uses a hell of a lot less ram than firefox for sure.
- noamsml, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Wait a second... They're calling it 2.0 and *not* upgrading the Gecko engine? Shouldn't they call it 1.6 or something?
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"We'd like to know why people leave Firefox. A survey on uninstall would help us find ways to make the software better in future versions."
Are we turning Firefox into spam now?
"Inline Spell Check
The rise of applications like web mail, blogging etc highlight the weaknesses of HTML's textarea widget. We should at the very least offer people the ability to spell check their submissions. "
Talk about bloated software. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"I use to love Firefox. Now its a memory hogging POS"
Try restarting firefox.exe, moron. - TRUEPATRIOT, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0less memory is all i want firefox 2 to be =)
- mistshadow2k4, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"If it's so obvious, why have I never experianced it, and why can nobobdy provide steps to consistantly reproduce it?"
Um, just look at how much memory it using when you're running it? If you're on Windows 2k or XP, ctrl+alt+del should bring up your task manager, click the Applications tab. Now look down the lsit for firefox.exe. Mine says it's using 54, 744 K right now; it was a bit over 61, 000 K a couple of minutes ago. Thats'w ith just 3 tabs open. Fortunately, my amchine has 512 mb RAM.
Don't get me wrong, I love firefox. I think ti's best browser ever, but the memory usage is it's main flaw, and it often gets to be a big one. I'd be very happy to see this fixed. Until then, if a client of mine has 256 mb RAm or less, I recommend Opera.
Oh, and it's jumped to 61, 632 K with this paragraph, still just 3 tabs open. - Zerocool82, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I'm going to use one of the nightly builds. It's at 1.6a. I hope it's not totally crap.
- mistshadow2k4, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Forgive the typos in first post. It's tough to type around a cat. Didn't notice the following until I loaded the page after my reply:
"And of course, if this was Microsoft, EVETYONE would be complainig (no, bitching like a little girl) about how they keep adding all these bells and whistles without addressing the real problem"
Sadly enough, I must agree. Adding features without fixing problems like this is something MS has been widely criticized for (including myself in there too) - not saying they're wrong to criticize MS for that, but just because a group of developers are open source doesn't make it any better when they do the same thing. - ThinkFr33ly, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Can you imagine if Microsoft released a new version of IE that broke almost every existing extension (or BHO / Toolbar, in IE's case)?
There would be absolute hell to pay.
But it's just kind of accepted that the next Firefox release will fry existing extensions. Bah... -
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