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- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -8/+49why would you have firefox launch at boot?
- HalBSure, on 10/12/2007, -2/+32More correctly, it shows what software slows down the booting process. I was really hoping for more involved testing.
- paroxsitic, on 10/12/2007, -9/+37
Norton Internet Security 2006
Mean Boot Time: 118.33
System Delay (s) : 43.33
System Delay (%) : 57.78
1000 Fonts
Mean Boot Time: 105.00
System Delay (s) : 30.00
System Delay (%) : 40.00
Kaspersky Internet Security 6.0.0.303
Mean Boot Time: 85.67
System Delay (s) : 10.67
System Delay (%) : 14.22
Yahoo Instant Messenger 8.0
Mean Boot Time: 85.67
System Delay (s) : 10.67
System Delay (%) : 14.22
AOL Instant Messenger 1.5 Preview
Mean Boot Time: 85.33
System Delay (s) : 10.33
System Delay (%) : 13.78
McAfee SecurityCentre
Mean Boot Time: 83.67
System Delay (s) : 8.67
System Delay (%) : 11.56
Kazaa 3 (+included crapware)
Mean Boot Time: 83.67
System Delay (s) : 8.67
System Delay (%) : 11.56
Trillian 3.1 Basic
Mean Boot Time: 83.33
System Delay (s) : 8.33
System Delay (%) : 11.11
VMWare Workstation5.5.1-19
Mean Boot Time: 83.33
System Delay (s) : 8.33
System Delay (%) : 11.11
Microsoft Visual Studio2005 Pro.
Mean Boot Time: 82.67
System Delay (s) : 7.67
System Delay (%) : 10.22
.NET Framework Runtime2.0
Mean Boot Time: 81.67
System Delay (s) : 6.67
System Delay (%) : 8.89
100 Fonts
Mean Boot Time: 80.33
System Delay (s) : 5.33
System Delay (%) : 7.11
Microsoft Office 2003(v11) Pro.
Mean Boot Time: 80.00
System Delay (s) : 5.00
System Delay (%) : 6.67
Windows Live Messenger(MSNM8)
Mean Boot Time: 80.00
System Delay (s) : 5.00
System Delay (%) : 6.67
Gaim 1.5.0
Mean Boot Time: 79.67
System Delay (s) : 4.67
System Delay (%) : 6.22
Adobe Photoshop CS 2
Mean Boot Time: 79.33
System Delay (s) : 4.33
System Delay (%) : 5.78
OpenOffice 2.0.3
Mean Boot Time: 79.00
System Delay (s) : 4.00
System Delay (%) : 5.33
Macromedia Studio MX 2004
Mean Boot Time: 79.00
System Delay (s) : 4.00
System Delay (%) : 5.33
QuickTime 7.1
Mean Boot Time: 78.67
System Delay (s) : 3.67
System Delay (%) : 4.89
DivX 6.3
Mean Boot Time: 78.67
System Delay (s) : 3.67
System Delay (%) : 4.89
DirectX 9.0c
Mean Boot Time: 78.67
System Delay (s) : 3.67
System Delay (%) : 4.89
Azureus 2.5.0.0 (+ Java Runtime)
Mean Boot Time: 78.33
System Delay (s) : 3.33
System Delay (%) : 4.44
BitDefender v10
Mean Boot Time: 78.00
System Delay (s) : 3.00
System Delay (%) : 4.00
WinRAR 3.60
Mean Boot Time: 78.00
System Delay (s) : 3.00
System Delay (%) : 4.00
Java Runtime 1.5.0.06
Mean Boot Time: 78.00
System Delay (s) : 3.00
System Delay (%) : 4.00
WinAce 2.65
Mean Boot Time: 77.67
System Delay (s) : 2.67
System Delay (%) : 3.56
K-Lite Codec Pack 2.76FULL
Mean Boot Time: 77.33
System Delay (s) : 2.33
System Delay (%) : 3.11
WinZip
Mean Boot Time: 77.33
System Delay (s) : 2.33
System Delay (%) : 3.11
7-Zip 4.42
Mean Boot Time: 77.00
System Delay (s) : 2.00
System Delay (%) : 2.67
BitComet 0.7
Mean Boot Time: 76.67
System Delay (s) : 1.67
System Delay (%) : 2.22
uTorrent 1.4
Mean Boot Time: 76.33
System Delay (s) : 1.33
System Delay (%) : 1.78
Control (none)
Mean Boot Time: 75.00
System Delay (s) : 0.00
System Delay (%) : 0.00 - barcode, on 10/12/2007, -4/+29Being posted to Digg's homepage will slow down your server, thats for sure ;)
- poipoipoi, on 10/12/2007, -10/+35could your humor be... duller?
- podgey22, on 10/12/2007, -7/+27Not really... The control is a "clean" install of windows.
I see what you mean, but no this is how other software mucks around with windows - FogDogg, on 10/12/2007, -0/+14I mirrored the page with the results on it:
http://fogdogg.net/files/3.html - paroxsitic, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12I saw this earlier. The main thing slowing it down was Norton by like 50%, the next was 1000 fonts with near 30-40%, everything else wasn't that significant
- kp3469, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13i always felt that Norton was f'ing my computer into the ground ... glad to finally see the proof.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13I haven't RTA yet, but the biggest 'slowdowner' would surely have to be Norton IS and NAV right?
And not just in booting up, whole system performance degredation! - DrunkenPirate34, on 10/12/2007, -6/+18With only 41 diggs, the real question here is "What is slowing this site down?"
- nzgizmoguy, on 10/12/2007, -3/+13http://www.duggmirror.com/software/Ever_wonder_what_software_slows_windows_down/
- cartoonboy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9Norton is worse than a virus IMHO because it's also difficult to completely remove. I always knew it was screwing up my performance and sucking up resources. I currently use AVG Free and it does the job.
Now, if I could only read the article. I think we killed the server. - dleifelohcs, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10podgey:
Saying "please click on the ads" is a violation of your AdSense agreement, and will:
1) Cause your account to be banned
2) Prevent you from getting this paycheck from Google
Try not to say stuff like that, it'll mess you over - and prevent you from being able to deal with Google AdSense again. - firemaker103, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Norton.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8I don't have time to be patient!
- podgey22, on 10/12/2007, -5/+11http://www.thepcspy.com/articles/other/what_slows_windows_down/3
Direct link to the results...
Just load it up in the background and let it slowly come to you... The server's having some issues (aside from the digg effect) but its still stable... just slow =) If it ever does load up, click an advert too =P - dbr_onix, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Avast doesn't really slow your boot time, it just screws performance for a few seconds while it installs updates (I only update it once a week, but everytime it does it, it's annoying.. Less bad than an extra minute bootup time though)
And the thing about linux not having stuff like this is not true at all.. All those deamons starting up slow it down a lot. I had one system that was slowed down hugely because the NTP (Network Time Protocol) sync thing wasn't connection, which added a minute or so to the boot time.. Although with linux, the startup procedure is far more imformative, as it tells you whats starting up (in real time), and whats failing and slowing things down more etc..
- Ben - foolfromhell, on 10/12/2007, -5/+10ok. those processes have been stopped with msconfig. hope this works *crosses fingers and reboots*
just kidding, those processes are essential - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7And here I thought it was barnacles slowing down the good ship XP all this time! The article is a pretty nice, clear bootup process guide. It reminds me of that ol' Black Viper site. I'm not quite sure of the name, since I haven't used Windows as my primary OS in a while. After a while, though, every operating system builds up cruft and it needs to be cleaned off.
- podgey22, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7SERVER ANNOUNCEMENT (please dont digg down)
I found the problem with the server and its running like a monkey on crack. I apologise to all those that have had issues with it but as I say, its all up and hunkeydorey.
Thanks to those that made mirrors and copied content to this thread. - titlesaysitall, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7Did someone remove the xbox? http://www.windowsitpro.com/Article/ArticleID/50428/The_website_is_down_because_someone_removed_the_XBox.html
- Jugalator, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7"could your humor be... duller?"
I can honestly not see if you mean latova's comment (for posting an incredibly poor "joke") or podgey22's (for not even treating it as a joke). :-) - myheaditches, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5The culprit has been found, it is... visitors!
- seopher, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6a good read - provided the server loads! patience people, patience.
- agimat, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4@celeron
:) Dugg down to death for stating the truth.
I use FF almost exclusively and with 3 windows open (2 tabs on one and none on the other 2) i'm using up 289K.
Firefox is nice and all but really people this problem will never get fixed if people keep denying this *****. - zerglurker, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Norton is like a virus, except it never gets removed.
- KyleMistry, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Norton is a massive resource hog.
Aren't there freeware apps that do more than Norton's anti-virus but, on a larger note, don't hog up as much CPU/RAM? - SoxFanNH, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Haha good old Norton, I guess It was norton 2004 that caused my old 950 Mhz notebook to slow down to a crawl. Thats why I am now a happy Kaspersky user :).
- latova, on 10/12/2007, -46/+49Could the software be... windows?
- agimat, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3@Ryosen
My bad .Yes, i meant MB. Thanks for that.
As for what i normally have on, we'll there's Google Reader and two gmail accounts. The other open window usually overflows with "work related" (nothing fancy) tabbed-pages but not in that particular case. I just had to close it down a few minutes ago since it was keeping 350+ MB all to itself already. don't have that many extensions either.
Not really bitching since it still is the better browser for me but it sure would be nice if some of that memory became available to some other app. - subcodec, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3@myheaditches
The reason it is a 75 second boot time is not because it is just Windows. The article does mention that he did this testing on a virtual machine. The author also does not mention the specs of the computer he is running this virtual machine on. All in all, you can't exactly look at the number of seconds Windows is taking to boot up since the hardware makes a big difference and the virtual machine makes it even slower yet. What is most important here is the pecentage difference these applications are affecting boot time. - Wikifindings, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3"If you need a font for something, you only need to open it in the Windows font browser and it should become available in your application until you close the font browser."
Nice to know! - ImaLamer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3@dleifelohcs
It's asking people to click the ads from your site that gets you into trouble. I had italic text over my banner saying "Please support our sponsors" and Google said that wasn't okay (and they warned me first) but said that asking people to support your site in other forums etc was okay.
Basically, you can't solicit clicks on the actual site. You can't tell your friends to just go to the site and click, but you can tell them that visiting the advertisers will support your efforts.
Of course, if you aren't sure: Ask Google. It comes down to this; if you don't think you should be doing it, and are afraid to ask if it is okay - then it isn't okay. - Ryosen, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I keep seeing claims, like agimat's above, regarding FF's memory usage. I'm currently running Firefox, it's been up for 3 days straight, and has 24 tabs open. Yes, 24. Total memory consumption: 154mb.
I'm curious to know what 2 sites you have up that is causing FF to consume 289mb.
Of couse, I'm assuming that you meant MB and not K, as you had written. - finkployd, on 10/12/2007, -6/+9@ImTheDarkcyde
Because at work Firefox, Outlook, and Dreamweaver are the three programs I use from the time the day starts until it ends. - startupguy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Anyone know how the impact of Norton is affecte if one turns off the real time file scanning? I think that's the biggest culprit within the Norton suite.
- podgey22, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2It adds a monkey load of reg entries in the form of associations and filters.
Anything which touches the reg is going to have *some* effect - xxNIRVANAxx, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4why? He's a saint! That page takes forever!
- podgey22, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Sure but its also the key to the protection
- wafflesomd, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Steam.
- FishersJEFF, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Fire fox claims the reason for the memory usage, is that there research shows that most navigation threw a browser is within the last pages that we visited. To help speed this up, the cache them. Multiple windows opened with multiple tabs you ask? Fire Fox will go ahead and cache the last ten pages for each tab in every window. There are some ways to try and help speedup fire fox and limit its memory usage.
http://googlesystem.blogspot.com/2006/04/reduce-memory-usage-in-firefox.html - jforward, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Without even reading the article, my first guess would be: Norton.
- zoombusa, on 10/12/2007, -5/+7Ever wonder what makes a webserver slow down?
LOL - fraew, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1they should measure nortons/symantec with the 'network access' tickbox disabled; makes quite a difference... I've found that VMWare makes a HUGE impact on boot time on our configs; way more than any other app on this list outside of Visual Studio 2005 (which can hang on the web services if Symantec is installed). Since when does Photoshop have any impact at all at boot time? all i know of is the gamma correction applet, but thats tiny.
- cesclaveria, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1try bitdefender... I have been using it since version 8 and I have not had any problems. Both the virus shield and firewall are great with a small memory footprint.
- kalmi, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Why does uTorrent slows down the booting process?
- sremick, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1MS Office drops a ton of itself outside of the actual Office subdirectory beneath Program Files. As do many other applications. Butt MS Office being so big, it ultimately has more crud placed in various nooks and crannies.
A better gauge would be what the installer says is requires space during install time for your selected options. I bet you it was many times 120MB. - albator, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@KRatos I never have a installed anti-virus, And I dont have any virus since 4 years. I Know cause I sometime manually scan. Use a firewall (rulebased one like black ice defender) and Firefox and you wont get virus from the Interweb. WHy degrade you pc perfomance with a realtime scanning process ?
- porkstacker, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Judging from the Task Manager window, my guess would be that Explorer.exe is the offending application guilty of slowing down the system.
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