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- nicklewisatx, on 10/12/2007, -0/+14At my startup, we've been developing against the 5.0 codebase for the last three weeks. Only once did a bug get in our way -- and we fixed it within 5 minutes. This the most stable beta that I've seen in my two years with the platform.
From the end user perspective, this update might be drupal's largest single leap. But as a developer, I naturally feel the real meat of 5.0 is the way its eased day to day development.
For starters, Nodes can now be rendered and altered much like the formapi. Praise Allah, the nodeapi is no longer the ugly duckling of drupal hooks. [ see: http://jeff.viapositiva.net/node/449 ]
Developers can now programmatically submit any form that follows the formapi conventions. This opens up a great jungle of options for preconfiguring drupal sites. [ see: http://drupal.org/node/79900 ]
These comments may be a bit esoteric, but these new features have made my life at least 2X to 3X easier. 4X easier might be stretching it.... - webchickenator, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12I used to code my own apps from scratch. The thing is though, it would take you literally *years* to develop all the functionality that's in an open source project with a healthy developer community, like Drupal. You have a group of literally hundreds of people all working together to make this great platform that's extremely versatile and extensible.
After using open source software for awhile, I am now inherently mistrustful of anything custom-coded because there haven't been thousands of eyes on the code, and it hasn't been tested in many different situations.
Drupal would help you in a few different ways, but the most obvious is the "scope creep" example: Your client suddenly decides they want the site to have Yahoo! groups functionality on the website, so users can start their own little sub-groups, each with their own little "mini-site" functionality.
You now have two choices:
a) Groan and sit down to start coding this thing into your custom app. Most of your time gets spent doing remedial things like setting up tables and page views before you even get to the part that the client actually sees. Debugging is a solitary process, since it's your own code.
b) Go out and download Drupal's Organic Groups module and have basic functionality in about 2 minutes. Spend the rest of your time solving the specific business problems the client has (using Drupal's API, it's possible to re-arrange the way everything works), then going on a vacation to Tahiti. ;) If something doesn't work right, post a bug report about it. Chances are that if the report is written well, someone can get to the bottom of it and have a fix very quickly.
Drupal's helped me immensely because it takes care of all the low-level stuff like access control, modularity, etc. -- I just get to focus on developing the interesting parts of the site. :) - matthwk, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12Great work by the Drupal crew!
- evilspoons, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9A little tip; you might wanna include what the heck Drupal *is* in the article summary. I see it's a CMS, but... yeah.
I just may have to try this guy instead of horrible phpnuke... looks promising! - rhyno2000, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6+dugg for inclusion of the venerable jQuery!
For those who don't know jQuery makes JavaScript accessible, easier to understand, even fun.
http://jquery.com - alexisb, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Yummy! I'm already running it in a site with more than 1200 users and it really rocks.
For people coding for Drupal there are lots of great improvements. Worth taking a look if you are searching for an extensible and powerful open source CMS. - greggles, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4depends on your modules - check http://drupal.org/node/82257 for details
- diig, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5demo:
http://www.drupaldemo.org/ - robertDouglass, on 10/12/2007, -0/+34.7 modules *must* be upgraded to 5.0 in almost every case. Now that the first beta is out, this will happen much more quickly.
- xamox, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4The web-installer rocks as well as the new theme!
- skor, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Yes, here's the wordpress module: http://wordpress.com/
- robertDouglass, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3jQuery and Drupal is a gift from FOSS heaven. Drupal is going to be the premiere AJAX platform because of this.
- matthwk, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2If you'd like to see the new (default) theme in action, visit http://natrak.net/drupal-5.0-beta1/
- Wamzlee, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Once I remember my password to FTP into my server, I will install this baby!
- MySchizoBuddy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2you should try drupal beta now. It has a web based installer.
the best feature of drupal is the new Content construction kit (CCK) - boolean, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I totally agree, the node rendering solution will make many lives easier... :)
- vermin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+25.0 includes an overhauled administrator interface, as well as the built-in ability to theme the admin area seperately. The admin area is much nicer and easier in 5.0.
- Matic, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Thank you very much. I have to make my site work for I.E. so I think I'll just do the entire thing from scratch using Drupal as an experiment. Then, if things are fantastic, I can move my other code that users are using right now to Drupal as well. I really appreciate your comment.
- vermin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Matic, Drupal is the CMS for developers like you. It was designed as a web development framework from the beginning, and is therefore built with quality code that's easy for programmers to modify.
- xxiao, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Great news! have been using drupal for a few months and it's quite good. wish there were more distributions for drupal so i do not need install all those modules manually.
- boolean, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I'm about to deploy a drupal website with a very customized theme and 10+ modules. Will 5.0 work with these?
- Bishoco, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2On my most recent site, I went with Joomla instead of Drupal. I made that decision pretty much because I heard of the installation woes and huge learning curve for Drupal. But, Drupal enticed me because I get the sense that it is more flexible and more powerful than Joomla. Now with the web based installer, I'm going to have to check out Drupal. I have a feeling that Drupal might beat out Joomla in the long run.
- lolwtfhaha, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I wish debian's drupal wasn't ancient :-(
- mutatron, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I've tried to get the hang of Drupal a few times, but it just never clicked. All I could get it to do was act like a blog. I'll give this 5.0 a try and see if I can make it do what I want.
- manitoba98xp, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Just a thought...couldn't you give "anonymous user" access to edit all nodes? Wouldn't that have the same effect? I'm still pretty new to Drupal, but I think that would do a lot of what you want. Or is there a different "wiki" quality you desire?
- vermin, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Also there does seem to be a wiki module already: http://drupal.org/project/liquid
- kennyvader, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3And *still* there appears to be no (usable) wiki module.
If Drupal had wiki capabilities it would be fantastic. I've so many clients that need elements of blog, photo gallery, and reference wiki on the one site. There's a guy had a go at creating a wiki module (the "liquid" project) but he seems to have died or got a girlfriend or something.
Such a shame, why aren't the core team putting even basic wiki functionality in to Drupal? - billpena, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1And *just* as I'm launching a new site based on 4.7. :P
Congrats Drupal team. Hands-down the best CMS I've ever used. - njt1982, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2I've used PHPNuke before and its ok for an "out the box" type site. But anything more than that and you NEED to use Drupal. If there is something you need that Drupal doesn't do out the box, then someone will probably have written a module to do it. If they haven't you can do it easily using its API!
- yorch, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Ok, for an ignorant, (but eager to learn) noob like me, that wants to learn how to use this, but has no clue about this, (although have a clue on how to make websites, html, etc). where do i start?. I have an idea for a great website, I know of pligg.com which resembles digg.com, and this drupal would be great for forum contents and news. but how do I merge them.
- MySchizoBuddy, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3because is not the job of drupal developers to make a wiki. Drupal by default is designed to be a basic cms with everything else being provided as modules. Looks like the Drupal community is not interested in a wiki. thats why we haven't seen one yet
- luxbot, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1yes! Finally Drupal has caught on. Caught on so much that even ole Ruby on Rails is praising the web 2.0/moo.fx/jquery/python/thick-thin-slim-slimmer-Box/ Movement Road Drupal has jumped onto! Long Live Web 2.0 and Awesome Work Drupal!
- Superman101, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@lolwtfhaha
Drupal is also fixing its project module to allow linux distro to better package Drupal so that it can be included in various repos. This is coming soon! - MySchizoBuddy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2yes it will.
projectopus.com has 100 modules installed. and it works without a hitch - jub0r, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Did they stop relying on lock tables?
- kenjimori, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I'm looking forward to installing it.
- MySchizoBuddy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1just download drupal beta and try it out. Its easy to install comes with a forum module so it all works seamlessly
- eaton, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0If wordpress meets your needs, Drupal is most likely overkill. Drupal is a CMS construction kit with a leaning towards community sites; I use it for my blog, but I'm geeked out and am already working on lots of Drupal related code.
- Matic, on 10/12/2007, -6/+6This is awesome. This is probably going to be the Visual C++ of the new webapp boom that I think will replace most desktop applications except where security and privacy is involved. I don't know anything about Drupal. Right now I use JSP, JavaScript, and MySQL. How does Drupal help me? Also, am I the only one who likes to build things from scratch so that he knows exactly what is going on? Can someone enlighten a guy who wants to stay up to date and not do things the hard way but still want complete control.
- ellisgl, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Anyone know if there are plugins and hacks to make it more like Wordpress? I've been working on putting together a site that a news and article based site and Wordpress was the best solution that I found.
I played with the default install of this beta for 5 minutes but wasn't impressed. - rosshj, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Wurdemup to Drupal. IMO best CMS.
- bobafifi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Anybody know if this has a comments feed?
- Bamborzled, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2vermin, he already mentioned that module.
- MasterMWL, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Best.CMS.Evarrr!
- e03179, on 10/12/2007, -9/+5If you tried Drupal before and were turned off perhaps you'll like these new features:
"It comes with many new features, including a web-based install system, improved administration tools, and a shiny new theme! There are also tons of under-the-hood improvements, such as the inclusion of the jQuery JavaScript library, node access system improvements (ACL), and many improvements to the Form API." - lolwtfhaha, on 10/12/2007, -6/+2False
- stevemckenzie, on 10/12/2007, -7/+1and so it begins..
- thetoast, on 10/12/2007, -15/+2Suck it and see
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