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- D4V1S, on 10/12/2007, -36/+235NIIIIICE!!!! huge digg, im sure its about as stable as my grandma trying to stand on a bowling ball though....
- spyhunter, on 10/12/2007, -10/+89This is not Firefox 3, and it is not better than Firefox 2. Mozilla is simply organizing their source code; this is the place where Firefox 3 *will* go when work begins on it in earnest. There may already be a few differences between it and Firefox 2, but they are pretty trivial. All they did was change a number, people!
- matt0baba, on 10/12/2007, -17/+60gruesome...i have a question...how come u have an animated .gif if digg doesnt allow u to upload them ...
- Ratty, on 10/12/2007, -2/+29Firefox 2 and 3 are being built at the same time. Basically 3.0 is 2.0, plus some extra features which won't be finished in time for the 2.0 release.
- alevel27mage, on 10/12/2007, -8/+34Form that into a coherent sentence, then come back and tell us.
- DerekJ212, on 10/12/2007, -4/+22Its an alpha, are you seroiusly complaining about a lack of universal binaries?
- JW00000, on 10/12/2007, -0/+18spyhunter's right. It's just a clean-up, you can read everything about it at http://wiki.mozilla.org/Global:1.9_Trunk_1.8_Branch_Plan . Firefox 2 (Bon Echo) will use Gecko 1.8.1, and Firefox 3 will use Gecko 1.9, and now there's a big reorganization.
(Also take a look at the image at http://cbeard.typepad.com/mozilla/2005/11/mozilla_product.html )
If you're interested, you can also take a look at http://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox2 for the plans (http://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox2/Schedule for the release schedule), and http://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox:3.0_PRD contains what Firefox 3 will do. Firefox 2 is planned for August 2006, and Firefox 3 for Q1 of 2007, but this can always change (1.5 was also delayed, even some months I think). - jpt62089, on 10/12/2007, -2/+19firefox-3.0a1.en-US.win32.installer.exe
http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/latest-trunk/firefox-3.0a1.en-US.win32.installer.exe
That is the regular installer... - defectDS, on 10/12/2007, -3/+20http://img342.imageshack.us/img342/4618/picture18ux.png
Screenshot. Very intriguing. - TigerX, on 10/12/2007, -2/+18Okay since no one here seems to have given everyone the clue yet... This is the bleeding edge of Firefox development. These are the nightly builds from the Trunk of the CVS tree.
If you are not planning on testing for the Firefox project, DO NOT download this build. It will cause you nothing but problems.
For those of you who are interested in following ongoing development, please refer to this forum where daily thread are made detailing the CVS check-ins for all three (major) branches of the Firefox project:
http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewforum.php?f=23
Also, this is not Firefox 3.0 Alpha 1. It is branded that way in the expectation that it will be released as such in well over 6 months I would imagine. - mvprj84, on 10/12/2007, -4/+19Portable version here for people that want to test it without installing it:
http://digg.com/software/Firefox_3.0_Alpha_1_Already_Better_Than_Firefox_2.0_Alpha_1_ - curtissthompson, on 11/07/2007, -11/+25yeah gruesome how did you get that animated gif....digg doesn't allow it for the icon....care to tell us?!
- redsrule2500, on 10/12/2007, -4/+16Yes, and the improvements are that obvious. AOL got up to version 10, and it still sucked.
- purpleplatyduck, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11first it has to get out of alpha...
- jpt62089, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12Deerpark was the codename for Firefox 1.1 (which ended up being 1.5)
Now I guess they are using the same codename for Firefox 3.0 - Uruviel, on 10/12/2007, -3/+12This is a Nightly Trunk Build. Heavily in development and highly unstable.
You can expect 3.0 by the end of 2006, or start 2007.
It will feature a different Rendering Core called Cairo (no this is not a replacement for Gecko, but rather a new engine that will produce the images) and numorous other, still in cognito, enhancements plus ofcourse those that will be added in 2.0.
For now I'd just wait for 2.0 if I were u, check out wiki.mozilla.org or mozillazine for more info. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11WARNING for everyone... it breaks flash.. ie flash doesn't work
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9It's not supposed to take flash. Its for development purposes.
- davidrussell, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10Firefox 3.0 uses the Gecko 1.9 engine as opposed to Firefox 2.0's 1.8.1 (And 1.5.0.1's 1.8)
Have a look at this:
http://cbeard.typepad.com/mozilla/2005/11/mozilla_product.html
And check out the Acid 2 test - already it's better and is supposed to be completely fixed by final release in 07.
http://webstandards.org/files/acid2/test.html#top - ubermorph, on 10/12/2007, -6/+13It's Alpha 2, not a release version, keep your pants on.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10Most changes are to things that you won't see.
- Uruviel, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9Ok guys, this is NOT , I repeat: NOT Firefox 3.0. Not because some kid stumbled upon the development trunk on the mozilla FTP servers. And mostly NOT because people are digging it.
This is an early stage development version. Which will EVENTUALLY become 3.0, somewhere in 2007. It will rock your socks but you'll have to wait another year. In the mean time you can chew on 2.0 (please note that those numbers are incremental and are proportional to the time the version will be released).
Currently there is a Trunk, main-development for 3.0 and a branch(split of from 1.5) that will be 2.0. Now at some point the branch will close, some code will get ported to the trunk and the development will be focued on making 3.0 happen (this will be a branch).
Get your facts straight - matt0baba, on 11/07/2007, -0/+7ok...got a response from digg support...he got the gif uploaded before the ban...
- rishubhav, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9This is pretty much like Bon Echo...It seems to be intended for developers
- Mcaruso, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Because the platform is getting some major changes. They needed to branch off for Gecko 1.9/Firefox 3 so to be able to work on the platform in advance.
- nessup, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8Thank you.
It takes one little post to misinform everyone. Whoever promoted this to front page doesn't deserve to promote anything. - Mcaruso, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Amen. Now if only we could get this comment in bold red at the top of the page..
- matt0baba, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7@mofomojo....tried it with a couple of format names but cant get it to work .... i still wanna know how to do it ... so keep us up to date....i wanna get to the bottom of this
- gotamd, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6This is very innaccurate. This is definitely NOT Firefox 3. It's just a snapshot of where it stands right now, so far...and it's definitely not stable or suitable for everyday usage. I don't know why this is on the front page.
- caraiancaldazar, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5is he talking about carrying his firefox around on his iPod?
- sadsac, on 10/12/2007, -4/+8Deer Park, “That's Good Water®!”
- tabledesk, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7Here is a nightly (march 3rd) Intel binary:
http://homepage.mac.com/thenonsuch/firefox/firefox-intel-030306.dmg
It's unbelievably fast. Loads in like half a dock bounce for me. Never experienced a faster internet - Mcaruso, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Cairo will be used for everything, not just SVG and (as in FX 1.5 and 2.0), and for all platforms.
- burke, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Ah. Excellent sleuthing. I can't say I'm not a little disappointed though. There doesn't seem to be any way to get them to work short of hacking into the server -- bad idea ;)
I'd hoped it would be as simple as changing the first few bytes from GIF89a to GIF87a, but unfortunately, the filter is as smart as browsers :'( - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4I guess the submitter doesn't realize that they work on more than one FireFox/Mozilla branch at a time.
- burke, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Okay, I've played around in a hex editor for a little while, and it *seems* like he's using just a plain old run of the mill animated gif. I've been unable to set my image to the same, so right now I'm considering two options:
1) He joined May 2005, so he may have uploaded this image before the anti-animation filters were as advanced. I doubt this, as I've never noticed it before and nobody in the previous stories he's commented on have said anything about it.
2) Gruesome found some clever way of sneaking the image past the detection system. This seems most likely. I'm not sure how it would be done at the moment, but it seems like it would involve a certain amount of hacking, which I'm definitely not going to do. - NealV, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Just because Firefox 2 isn't finished, doesn't mean that Firefox 3 hasn't been started. Not all the developers do all the same things. Firefox 3 is supposed to use a new version of Gecko (Firefox 1.5 and 2.0 use the same Gecko version so that they could ship 2.0 quicker) which requires a lot of backend work to sync the two up. So most likely 3.0 is for testing out the new Gecko, which is all under-the-hood type stuff. Better memory management, increased Web Standards support, cross-platform bug fixes, etc. It probably will have a nearly identical UI, because the front end developers are busy polishing 2.0. So everybody keeps working. Backend guys work on 3.0 where the work is needed, front end guys are working on 2.0 where it's needed, and all the while Gecko developers have been continually working on Gecko, regardless of Firefox.
- fdemmer, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5afaik. cairo is already used for svg and that is just about everything cairo will be used for.
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cairo_(Library) - dbpigeon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3They only did something like that once, by accident. They fixed it soon after. It has a lot of downloads because its a good browser.
- jdhore1, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4I installed it last night and i noticed that it has a significant decrease in memory usage over FF 1.5/2.0
- TomUK, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Yeah, you'll want the .exe file that jpt62089 linked too. Bear in mind though that this is a nightly build and unless you are a Mozilla developer, have a specific issue with Firefox that you are expecting to be fixed or there is an exciting new feature you want to try then there is no point in installing this.
I'm kinda suspicious as to whether this really is a version 3 build seeing as there are version v1.6 builds in the same directory; which seems like a more realistic version to be at.
You should notice that v3 isn't slated until Q1 2007 so i'm guessing that someone made a mistake and this is total rubbish. - burke, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Actually, it seems as though he may have been using the animated avatar as early as 2/14
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3So that's why Microsoft's IE beta is called "deer hunter"
- Archon810, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5I think the most important thing to understand is the timeline.
If they're still working on FF2, and it's only been a couple of months since the release of 1.5, there's no way in the world that FF3 would be some revolutionary, new, much better version with tons of new feats.
In addition to that, why would they be working on FF3 if FF2 hasn't been completed yet? Sounds like a late April Fools from Mozilla. - alphacoder, on 10/12/2007, -5/+7Alevel27mage, LMAO!
Ryan, if English is not comfortable for you, I apologize but your post is quite confusing. I tried to break up the sentence in various ways and have no clue what was meant. - darkfate, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4People are so stupid. This is just a new trunk build because the Bon Echo alphas are a new directory now. All "Firefox 3" is now is a trunk build of Bon Echo with the number changed. Read here: http://www.squarefree.com/burningedge/
- GreenAlien, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I hardly saw the difference between 1.5 and 2.0 beta. I can't see much diff in 3.0 alpha either judging by that screenshot. In terms of the interface, what's changed? Wish they'd do some decent buttons in the default theme. Looks a bit dated fresh out the box and it probably puts some people off before they discover how good the browser is.
- The_Decryptor, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I think he is talking about using Portable Firefox on his iPod in Disk Mode.
- kalphegor, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Dude, "close buttons on tabs" feature will be in Firefox 2.0 too.
What's realy new in Firefox 3.0 alpha, is the Cairo rendering engine! Faster, better, compatible, but now with mojor bugs that will be fixed on final release.
http://www.cairographics.org/ - musicbear, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5If you're on camino there's no real reason to check out a new FF until 2.0 is finished. Camino is very cool!
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