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- burke, on 10/12/2007, -4/+75Duke Vista Forever.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -9/+66Yeah, then there'd be more room for stories about incremental increases in ubuntu and firefox betas!
- keng, on 10/12/2007, -4/+59I wish they would just shut-up talking about it. They should just stop commenting about it till the OEMs have it in their hands and then say, "Hey the new windows version will be out in 30 days."
- stealthboy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+32but.... the interface is shiny now! Isn't that a worthy output of 6 years of development?
- Buelldozer, on 10/12/2007, -12/+38@TheCount,
"Am I the only one that could care less." Well if you COULD care less then why don't you?
I think that you meant to say "Am I the only one that COULDN'T care less."
Yeesh, what are they teaching in public schools these days? - TheCount, on 10/12/2007, -13/+39Am I the only one that could care less?
- Ireland, on 10/12/2007, -4/+28"Ballmer Hints at Possible Further Vista Delay!" ....Enter Leopard!
- wmarcello, on 10/12/2007, -1/+22Apple execs are probably enjoying this. Kudos to them though. I figured OSX features would find their way to Windows boxes sooner than later, but I guess I was wrong.
- Nitsugua, on 10/12/2007, -5/+25[sarcasm] What a surprise ! [/sarcasm]
- opinionist, on 10/12/2007, -3/+23msft has lost its way. this is tragic mismanagement by senior execs.
- Zorkon, on 10/12/2007, -3/+22Instead, Windows has found its way to OS X boxes.
"Dogs & cats, living together! Mass hysteria!" - BloodJunkie, on 10/12/2007, -7/+25Nice dollar-signs, dude. Way to stick it to them.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+17Is anyone really sitting on the edge of their seats waiting for Vista? I don't have a need for most of the announced features that Vista is supposedly going to bring to the table. It seems like the most significant part of the OS is a new IE which I also don't need because I use Firefox as my main browser.
I sat through a demo of Vista for a few minutes at CES in Las Vegas and the OS locked up while the presenter was showcasing some of the new security features. In particular the ability to lock out children from using certain applications. The presenter actually had to reboot the OS because it just froze. I thought to myself... wow, MS wants to release this thing in the next year and they can't even get a stable copy to run at a major trade show? No, I don't care if MS never releases Vista because by the time it is fully cooked I will be thoroughly engaged with either Ubuntu or OSX. - Snarl, on 10/12/2007, -4/+19" Microsoft chief executive Steve Ballmer" looks a lot like Bill Gates in that photo.
- Xeworlebi, on 07/25/2008, -2/+16They're just waiting on Mac OS X 10.5 to copy it, otherwise 90% of the world would have to wait another 6 years on al those cool features.
- lnxaddct, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14TubaTechno,
OS X wasn't delayed for *4 years*. Vista was supposed to be released in 2003, this is starting to border on being absurd. Do you have any idea how long 4 years is in tech? And its been in development for 6 or 7 years, there is no excuse. - redneckblues, on 10/12/2007, -4/+17I'm going to ***** bury Vista! *Throws chair*
- cypherz, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13@TubaTechno
Good point about OS X not being built from the ground up. I should point out however, that neither is Vista. Vista recycles lots of code from previous versions of Windows. I'll bet there's still some 16 bit code from Windows 3.1 running around in there!
"This article is just another venue for Linux and Apple fanboys to bash MS...reality is gonna come crashing down when you get to the "real world" where the top companies and corporations are using Windows (because it works)"
"When" I get to the real world? WTF? I guess you assume that all Apple fans are teenagers? I've been writing WIndows and UNIX applications for a living for over 20 years (I'm 50). The "real world" does use OS X and Linux "because they just work". I wonder why you're baiting Linux and OS X fans? Are you threatened somehow by these other OS's? Maybe you should broaden your horizons. Different tools for different applications. I'm sure Vista will have its place. So will OS X and Linux (and *BSD!). - Zorkon, on 10/12/2007, -3/+15Dude.
DOS 3.0 shipped a *long* time ago. Get with the program. - 2000, on 10/12/2007, -5/+16His 'S' key is broken, you insensitive clod!
- alexandreracine, on 10/12/2007, -5/+16doh! You beat me to the punch!
Mabe this time they will have time to put in that WinFS thing. Oh wait... no no no... it's better to ask people to pay for it as an upgrade! - opinionist, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11I'd suggests u were not aware if the massive number of OSX releases, updates produced, released (working) since Windows Vista (Longhorn!?) was originally announced ... hmmm... how many years ago?
I'm not acting as a FanBoy for Apple. Just stating my little opinion.
MSFT's stock price provides the fact. - 4degrees, on 10/12/2007, -3/+12Microsoft (the large lumbering beast) has stumbled on its own feet, could this be the beginning of the end?
tune in next week, when Steve Ballmer announces a new operating system that will not olny satisfy you sexually but make coffee too! - Zorkon, on 10/12/2007, -3/+12Somebody @ Microsoft needs to take a high-school Calculus refresher. The whole Vista release thing is beginning to remind me of Zeno's Achilles Paradox ...
No matter how short the delays are, if there are an infinite number of them, Microsoft is never going to ship Vista. :) - noahhoward, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10Steve Ballmer is Bill Gates in that photo. Bunch of twits must have wrote the article... which brings up two questions. 1. Why is this in a physics journal? 2. Why are there twits reporting for a physics journal?
- gol706, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9Maybe it will give the game developers time to make the game work in XP like any sane developer would do. Expecting customers to migrate to a new OS before it's been out for several years is just stupid.
- Inglorion, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9So this could mean that the games which requires Vista will automatically be delayed as well. Not cool.
- cyclotron, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9Windows spelled backwards is D E L A Y.
- lava, on 10/12/2007, -6/+14"Yeah, then there'd be more room for stories about incremental increases in ubuntu and firefox betas!"
At least they have their products out. And even at beta, they're STILL better than the competing microsoft product. - cmiller1, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11dugg down because only loser MS fanboys with the IQ of a titmouse think that's not true
- Sirocco, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10>> It's ridiculous. XP alone is a pretty efficient OS and would suit me for the next 2 years.
No, XP is a horribly inefficient and sloppy operating system, but you (and many others) will be happy to tolerate it for a while longer. There's a difference.
>> do people really need a 64bit operating system with very little software to take advantage of it?
Unfortunately, yes. We need hardware and software to prepare for tomorrow's bloat. There will be a day when notepad.exe will consume 600 threads and 175 megs of RAM. - MadOgre, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9"Now there's a surprise! Why, I could of have a heart attack and die from this surprise. Look at this, I'm so pissed off I'm molting." - Iago
- heymark, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9When delays are for them to add/enhance more features and create a better product - i guess i'm all for it. But, if it's because they're simply stalling, and trying to pick up slack - It's annoying. If they're going to delay it so much, can't they squeeze in WinFS? or any other planned features that now aren't making it to Vista? I doubt it, but it would be nice. So far, i'm not terribly impressed, considering the amount of time they've had.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -12/+19"Late Vista, timely Linux"
http://www.linux-watch.com/news/NS2740429493.html - cuttlefish, on 10/12/2007, -5/+121/2 + 1/4 + 1/8... = 1
1/2 + 1/4 + 1/8... != infinity
:o) - Fallout75, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Microsoft: Face it! Vista will not be OSX, it never will be. Just release Vista already and quit making yourself look bad.
- Buelldozer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Yes, but "on track for shipping early in the year." is not what was announced with the last delay. At the last delay announcement they said they would be shipping at the end of the year, at least to Corporate Customers.
- elemel, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Quoting Ballmer from the article:
"Certainly, when Windows Vista comes to the market next year, and it will be next year, we will make sure that we make a high quality product, ship a high quality product, when it's ready."
Does anyone else find it slightly disturbing that he deemed it necessary to reassure us that Vista will in fact be out some time during 2007? - elemel, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6So, what you are saying is: we can have an early release or a quality release, not both. I predict we will see neither.
- noahhoward, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9Wait...
I was under the impression that locking up was a key feature of the Windows legacy... I mean if you can't lock up your windows how secure can they be? - ChileanGoD, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8Hasta la Vista, Baby!
- Werdock, on 10/12/2007, -4/+9That codetheft and the delays were unrelated.
- Sirocco, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6If the delays result in a genuinely better product with increased stability, than I support the (potential) decision. At this point I doubt it's about adding features so much as getting the ones they have to actually work.
- gol706, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5But it is a big deal for businesses that signed contracts for upgrades and got nothing to show for it because Vista keeps getting pushed past the end of their contracts.
- Sirocco, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6Right now the only thing holding me to Windows is gaming. With DX10 going Vista-only, I have a strong feeling that I'll be jumping ship and migrating to Linux in the next year or two. Console gaming is really filling in the gaps for me, because PC gaming is... just... totally "meh" right now. FPS, FPS, FPS, RTS, FPS, RTS, RTF, FPS, oh... and an MMORPG or twenty. Lame.
- OBKenobi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Forget their stock prices. Take one look at Vista and you know it needs about another year's worth of work, at the minimum. It's a gigantic (15GB worth), bloated, pile of mismatched parts, half-baked ideas, flawed marketing concepts and outright ineptitude by MS management that is not fit for release.
No wonder MS employees are feeling so low, they're tired of getting screwed by MS management as much as the rest of the world is. Who'd want to work at MS today? It's like working at the IRS. MS employees go out and are mocked at bars and by their friends. They're the laughingstocks of the industry. Like I said, it's not even their fault, it's these marketing schemes (such as bundling IE with Windows, or sabotaging Java and other standards) that MS management comes up with that have repeatedly crippled and buried any good thing Windows has ever had.
Steve Ballmer needs to throw Bill Gates into the MSHQ Reactor Core and then go become one with the force. Both these guys should retire, they've already done enough! - OriginalGamer, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6I can't believe they couldn't get it out by the end of the year. I mean they first delay the release untill Jan 07, totally missing the holidays, and now they can't even meet that. I'm convinced that MS has the philosophy that they can do no wrong when it comes to sales because they believe that since over 90% of computers will ship Vista for the next 5 years that they are guarentiued a successful product no matter how late and/or buggy it is. They truly are oppressing the industry. Hopefully Leopard will make it by the holidays and people will start to see that a great OS can be made in under 2 years development time. Maybe they'll start to realize that a better product can be bought sooner and make the switch. Sadly though, it probably won't happen...
- s0ny, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5naaaah. Microsoft is just delaying Vista more and more so when Leopard comes out they will have time to steal as much as they can from Apple.
- wrinkles, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Ballmer lost some weight and is wearing a bad toupee. :)
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