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- MCA2142, on 03/01/2009, -8/+54Recently got a HP Windows Home Server with 4x 1.5 TB drives.
It is simply awesome. All the PCs are backed up. It works with my Mac via timemachine. I can access the drives via the internet from anywhere in the world.
Awesome. One of the better MS products for sure. - lovecss, on 03/01/2009, -0/+33I believe an OS X server is a lot more expensive than a Windows Home Server.
- LiquidSpark, on 03/01/2009, -3/+19Do you ever read lifehacker? These are just the nominees (chosen by the readers).
- archer75, on 03/01/2009, -9/+22Windows Home Server. It's the only option on the list that lets you use drives of different sizes without losing space. It's easy to manage and there is quite a bit you can do with it.
It's also the only product on the list that will backup all the computers on your network automatically and allow you to do bare metal restores quickly and easily. It can even wake those computers, back them up, and then put them back to sleep. - drr104, on 03/01/2009, -1/+14Ubuntu and Debian both support LVM, so you can use disks of different sizes with them without losing space. Don't know about FreeNAS though...
- Tad2much, on 03/01/2009, -0/+12Kind of a lame list. Apache isn't really the same thing as everything else in there (an application vs. an OS)
Anybody ever used Amahi(www.amahi.org)? It uses Fedora 9 and puts a slick web UI in to manage just about any of the home server needs you could have. - doctorcaligari, on 03/01/2009, -0/+11You don't need OSX Server for any backups, just another Mac running Leopard (or their Time Capsule). Time Machine will back up to another Mac with an external hard drive over the network. However, it's probably cheaper to use the HP solution, especially for 6TB.
- leamanc, on 03/01/2009, -0/+11Seeing as how the L in LAMP stands for Linux, and EasyPHP is for Windows, then no, you don't get a LAMP setup.
You get a, uh, WAMP setup. - FreddieD, on 03/01/2009, -0/+11I haven't used the other pieces of software extensively, but I'm a *huge* fan of FreeNAS. If you're looking for server software that will RAID your disks and give you access in virtually every conceivable way (CIFS, NFS, uPNP, etc) it's the software for you. Incredibly easy and intuitive to set up, too.
It can't do much else, but that's fine with me as I'm a fan of software that has the mantra of "do one thing, but do it very well" - adml_shake, on 03/01/2009, -5/+15$99 bucks is expensive? Seems pretty darn reasonable to me for something I don't have to touch the command line with.
- leamanc, on 03/01/2009, -1/+11"...you can put it on as many machines as you like."
No, you can't. Sure, nothing's stopping you, but you still can't. That's precisely the reason Windows has activation now. - clickfire, on 03/01/2009, -6/+15FTA: Earlier this week we asked you to tell us what software you used to power your home servers and add that extra kick of convenience and power to your home networks. After tallying up the votes we're back to share the top five contenders for the home server championship belt. The following server implementations cover a broad spectrum of solutions ranging from install-it-and-forget-it to tinker-your-way-to-perfection and everything in between.
- brickbat, on 03/01/2009, -2/+11i run a mac mini with a Drobo. No complaints here. Quiet, safe, effective.
- ivantalboys, on 03/01/2009, -3/+11Assuming your PCs are windows based.
- adml_shake, on 03/01/2009, -1/+8Even most Apple fans admit that OSX Server is seriously lacking in usability.
- lovecss, on 03/01/2009, -5/+12Have you even used it? Running perfectly well here, streaming video content to my PS3, daily backups and centralised file storage. Stupidly easy to set up and maintain too. Remind me again why you hate it so much? Ah yes, Microsoft made it and it's based on that good server software called Server 2003. That'll explain it then...
- archer75, on 03/01/2009, -2/+8The HP home server can also backup macs using time machine.
- RandaII, on 03/01/2009, -0/+6I didn't see FreeBSD or CentOS on that list. seems l kinda bias.
- se7en11, on 03/01/2009, -0/+6FreeNAS does support different drives. You'll just run into the same issues as with anywhere when you do RAID on different size drive.
- foltaggio, on 03/01/2009, -0/+6sudo apt-get install apache2 mysql-server php5
- laserdog, on 03/01/2009, -0/+5Indeed, the "Apache" slot should have been "CentOS".
- sus3k, on 03/01/2009, -0/+5Ive been running FreeBSD for several years now and haven't had any problems with it.
- nedzeve, on 03/02/2009, -0/+5"you can put it on as many machines as you like"
Not legally. - jakem1, on 03/01/2009, -4/+9My HP Home Server is one of the best investments I've ever made. I can add more storage than I need in seconds, my PCs are always backed up, and there's no need for image software because I can do a full restore of a PC within about 20 minutes. The web interface is great and gives me access to all my files remotely - it's cloud computing without having to rely on a third-party. Mine just sits in the cupboard under the stairs out of sight and out of mind and never requires any interaction.
It's cheap, secure, I've never come across any DRM and, as far as I'm concerned, very high quality. - fandyllic, on 03/01/2009, -1/+6To LiquidSpark: I read this lifehacker article and found it wanting. Your comment seems to have no point.
- laserdog, on 03/01/2009, -0/+4I used freenas because it could fit on a 128 MB USB drive, so I wouldn't have to worry about my server OS disk dying.
- nunofgs, on 03/02/2009, -0/+4My problem with FreeNAS is when you want to install software that they don't support. For example, a vmware-server or hellanzb.
I use ubuntu but I would really like a nice GUI like FreeNAS'. And no, webmin isn't as nice. - captaingary, on 03/01/2009, -2/+6WHS is good if you're working with +1 GHz and +512KB, but it's too heavy for older machines. Me, I took my old PII, installed Ubuntu Server and Samba, now I have a free server on my Windows network. Yes, it was a bitch to learn some Linux command line, but I'm glad I did it.
I used this guide:
http://rubbervir.us/projects/ubuntu_media_server/ - mirunit, on 03/01/2009, -1/+5Just a FYI, if anyone has a PS3, look up PS3 Media Center (if you are currently using TVersity or something). Full 1080P transcoding of .mkv's and such, no fighting with codecs and cross-platform support.
- Dweller99, on 03/01/2009, -4/+8"Have you even used it?"
You have to ask?
I love my WHS. I have tried many other solutions and found nothing that works as well and with as little headache to get configured. - raynar, on 03/01/2009, -3/+7its turned as ***** as digg now. All it is is a some crappy posts that they hope to get digg'd so people will visit and drive up their ads sales. They recycle the same articles every 3-4 months.
- DigitalRambler, on 03/02/2009, -2/+6FreeNAS ROCKS
its Free and it just works. - thecwin, on 03/02/2009, -0/+3archer75: You obviously don't know a great deal about LVM2, then, because I am using it for parity based redundancy of some LVs over several disks of different sizes (also needs use of metadisks) . One of my important LVs is mirrored across all 6 of my disks, whereas others are either striped across several or mirrored on several. I have it set up as one single VG consisting of all the system's PVs. The dm system also lets me do encryption. There are plenty of other things you can do on the Linux system if you know what you're doing.
Windows Home Server obviously makes these things easier, and I've found it a very interesting product indeed, but these things are by no means impossible with other systems. - archer75, on 03/02/2009, -0/+3Others that could be mentioned are flexraid and unraid.
- sneaker98, on 03/01/2009, -9/+12I've got an old Solaris box in the corner of my closet, and it works like a charm. Command-line only, auto-refreshes its ip address to the nameserver in the event of a network restart, and I paid nothing for it :D
- pHr34kY, on 03/02/2009, -1/+4Ubuntu server = win. Does absolutely everything you want it to (it's just a matter of knowing how).
- cleric04, on 03/02/2009, -0/+3SPARC LOVE <3 <3
- inactive, on 03/02/2009, -0/+3From the original article ( http://lifehacker.com/5161192/best-home-server-sof ... )...
"Hive Five nominations take place in the comments, where you post your favorite tool for the job. We get hundreds of comments, so to make your nomination clear, please include it at the top of your comment like so: VOTE: Favorite Home Server Software. Please don't include your vote in a reply to another commenter. Instead, make your vote and reply separate comments. If you don't follow this format, we may not count your vote. To prevent tampering with the results, votes from first-time commenters may not be counted. After you've made your nomination, let us know what makes it stand out from the competition."
...it looks like they just use some type of script to count the "Votes:Home Server Software". - tnoy, on 03/02/2009, -0/+3FreeNAS uses a minimal FreeBSD installation.
- nedzeve, on 03/02/2009, -0/+3"Nope, not a single one has those features."
You're plain wrong. First off, LVM is NOT JBOD -- it's something completely different. You don't have to create a separate pool for redundancy, you can simply set up physical volumes as parity disks. I used it exactly like this, and so does Netgear. It's easy to do.
"I am not aware of any feature in OSX or Linux that will backup the computer"
Well, it wouldn't be a "feature", because it would be an application. If you're looking for a network based, block level backup solution, look no further than systemimager or clonezilla. Both totally easy to implement. - super_spyder, on 03/01/2009, -2/+5Put OS X server on that, and you have my "dream home" set up.
- cyssero, on 04/18/2009, -0/+3I used to be obsessed with keeping archives of ***** I'll never watch, so every time I had a HDD failure I would be relieved as it gave me an opportunity to start fresh and get rid of those b-grade chick flicks I had been harbouring for God knows what reason.
There's no being certain with a setup - I would personally go with raid 5 and leave it, if a dual drive failure occurs then so be it, the chances of that happening are rather slim (in my personal experience) and the cost of redundancy starts to add up extremely quickly. - Comp1demon, on 03/02/2009, -1/+4At the Moment I have a Single AMDX2 64 Machine With 12 Internal HDD's and 3 External Drives totaling about 8TB of Music, TV shows, Movies and so on. I have been collecting Episodes of my favorate TV SHows (and never deleteing anything) since 2002 or so - SO I have so much CRAP on my PC. But Each season Usually a 1TB drive is enough to hold every MVK and AVI version of the episode (I have MKV for my POPCORN HOUR A100 to play back at 720p/1080p and I have the SD AVI for my Xbox media center when the wife wants to catch up while with the baby). and I just buy a new 1TB each season to add the shows too. I have a drive on my PC for just messign around and it never is used for storage of my streaming needs and it is 250GB and never fills up.
I know eventually a drive is gonna die and I will lose that whole drive of data. I have (except for the 2 externals) backed up all my drives so far and put them away. But with 1TB drives bing $80 dollars each or lower I want to build a Raid level (probibly 5) server so that even if a Drive fails I can rebuild it quite cheaply and not loose a thing. I was going to build a freenas server - but after reading this artice I am reconsidering.
Here is the scenero - I know I need a Main PC - then the Server (or NAS) so to speak, unless I want to software raid on my main PC - which i don't! I rather keep that PC with just the boot drive and maybe a interal drive for games and such and thats it - use the NAS servers as big externals. I want to add a NAS or two (think of it as a SUPER LARGER EXTERNAL DRIVE).
How many drives should I use and what level of raid? - I was thinking (5) 1TB drives in raid 5 and building 3 spereate machines to do 12TB total between both machines.
Some people already poited out that if a dual drive failure occurs Im FUXORED anyways and loose all 4 TB of data - as oppsed to 1TB keeping single drives. I really don't want to MIRROR every single drive that is too redundant i believe and I don;t think a PC can do multiple raid mirrors all in the same PC. As for loosing 2 drives the chances of it hapening due to just lifespan are exponental compared to just one drive in the same day without ecternal factors such as power spike, internal voltage irregulaties and or acts of freak nature - Brown out, surge, ect... So a raid 5 wouldn't be so bad - though IM ASKING YOU ALL what should I do?
Im not looking to spend more than $1200 as that will buy me 12 (1)TB drives and leave me $200 bux for peripherals and such + I will be using older machines instead of building new ones as the hardware in them is more than kickass for a NAS or SERVER just to let me stream my multimedia - these PC will not be used in any sort of PC fashion. I have a new i7 for that which will be done in a few weeks.
OK let the recomendations commence.. Help me slim downa dn become more secure. - digrboi, on 03/02/2009, -0/+2damn FreeNAS,you scary!
- archer75, on 03/02/2009, -1/+3Actually those older machines can produce more heat than modern systems. And aren't necessarily any more energy efficient.
- nedzeve, on 03/02/2009, -1/+3I would call it "uses less energy and produces less heat and noise" than what you probablu consider "current".
- archer75, on 03/02/2009, -2/+4You mean a 1ghz 512mb machine isn't an older machine? I would call it ancient.
- AirRaven, on 03/02/2009, -0/+2A little excessive, perhaps?
On the Brownout/Power Spike problem, I'd suggest a UPS with a decent surge protector behind it. That should keep you going long enough to shut down safely. - nedzeve, on 03/02/2009, -2/+4"It's the only option on the list that lets you use drives of different sizes without losing space...
It's also the only product on the list that will backup all the computers on your network automatically and allow you to do bare metal restores quickly and easily. It can even wake those computers, back them up, and then put them back to sleep."
You can do all of that with any Linux distro, probably with BSD an OSX too. - RaulMuadDib, on 03/02/2009, -1/+3boo
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