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- bixby1, on 10/12/2008, -5/+80Welcome!
- valquiria25, on 10/12/2008, -1/+66What I want to know is why is there a picture of Ronaldinho? He's not even Cuban.
- slvrbullet87, on 10/12/2008, -8/+36Good for them... Cuba must not be the "socialist Paradise" that Castro talked about
- inactive, on 10/12/2008, -2/+26Well, its better than coming over on a ***** boat and having to avoid the Coast Guard.
- GregIsLegend, on 10/12/2008, -5/+28Wow. They're professional athletes and life still sucks bad enough for them over there for them to try and escape to the US? Cuba must be pretty bad.
- killerknives, on 10/12/2008, -13/+35some hick probably saw them and threw them into mexico
- ronaldst, on 10/12/2008, -11/+27I wonder why would these two escape a worker's paradise? Makes no sense at all. *facepalm*
- mvanhorn, on 10/12/2008, -3/+19From Wikipedia "Although Cuban players are not permited to sign professional contracts with teams, he [Reynier Alcántara] remains the most valuable player in Cuban soccer."
Also found this elsewhere:
Cuban television also confirmed the defections, and ripped the two players on air. "They betrayed the unity of their select team and gave in to the temptations of the empire's money," a newscaster said. "As always, the team will go out to defend the colors of the national flag, rising above the traitors' mud." - Skooma714, on 10/12/2008, -2/+17mmmm forbidden doooonnuuttt
- OC73, on 10/12/2008, -4/+19Bu, bu, but America is hated!
- MakanGuru, on 10/12/2008, -2/+16hmmm, i guess there were 2 new openings in the local meat processing plant?
on a serious note though, think about things from their perspective. They live in a country where they are still driving around in 1950 era cars and just got access to the DvD player and cell phones LAST YEAR. It's like putting a donut an inch in front of Homer Simpson and telling him he is only allowed to see and not taste said donut. - govsucks, on 10/12/2008, -6/+19So I'm assuming that "Free Healthcare" just doesn't quite compensate you for human liberty.
- Lazydriver, on 10/12/2008, -0/+12!Bienvenidos Cubanos! ?Como es Fidel?
- tehxen3, on 10/12/2008, -0/+11Actually... there is some law which allows Cubans to get green card easily if they manage to get on US soil. They can become legal very quickly.
- killerknives, on 10/12/2008, -1/+12tell that to the hick in my hypothetical scenario
- inactive, on 10/12/2008, -4/+15Where's the digg lynch mob to start shrieking about illegal immigrants?
- Kikinou, on 10/12/2008, -13/+24You mean Cuba isn't the Marxist paradise the leftists would have us believe? Shocking! How evil of the U.S. to shun them! /sarc
- inactive, on 10/12/2008, -3/+12I read defections as defecations. Needless to say, I was very confused.
- freudianslipper, on 10/12/2008, -1/+10"I like quotes"
- stormofswords, on 10/12/2008, -1/+10durr steelin ur bank accounts!!
- inactive, on 10/12/2008, -0/+8They took your job!!!
- uriman, on 10/12/2008, -2/+9More Scarface wannabees
- inactive, on 10/12/2008, -4/+10Hey don't misunderstand. They just want to spread the benefits of communism and how good they've had it since they were kids.
- wtrwlkr, on 10/12/2008, -2/+8thurrrrr steelin our jerrrrbs!
- pearcewg, on 10/12/2008, -1/+7Someone should ask all the hollywood types why they don't "disappear" whenever they go to "visit" Cuba.
I'll trade people who want to be here with people that spit on us any day of the week. - insurgente, on 10/12/2008, -0/+5"The empire's money". Maybe the Cuban statesmen have been reading Negri.
- oldhick, on 10/13/2008, -1/+6@Cayfox, plenty of companies and countries ignore Helms-Burton. Cuba trades with most European countries, Canada, most South American countries.
Cuba has NO shortage of trade partners other than their northern neighbor, the US.
Cuba trades with the U.S. as well. A U.S. law passed in October 2000 allowing Cuba to buy U.S. food and medical products, provided Cuba pays cash.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/cuba/canada-cuba ...
http://www.fas.usda.gov/itp/cuba/cuba.asp
http://www.cubanet.org/CNews/y07/oct07/18e2.htm
I find the rhetoric that the U.S. is responsible for their miserable condition, tired, ill-informed, and down right misleading. Cuba is responsible for their own fate. But folk like Cayfox will never stop this ignorant ranting that is baseless and ridiculous. - thcobbs, on 10/12/2008, -3/+8Oh it is... its just the reality of that paradise is something just this side of jail.
- Cheesasaurus, on 10/12/2008, -0/+5Spy sappin mah jobs!
- loconet, on 10/12/2008, -1/+6What does Ronaldinho have to do with this?
- whorunbartertwn, on 10/12/2008, -2/+7I know man this is almost making me reconsider what I've heard about North Korea being a halcyon oasis of content workers and goose stepping army guys suckling at the benevolent teat of Dear Leader.
- camilos007, on 10/12/2008, -2/+7The U.S. is interested in Cuban soccer players now? Americans do realize that Cuba is as good in soccer as Brasil is in Hockey.
- insurgente, on 10/12/2008, -5/+10What is this, the third or fourth time this joke has been made so far?
- diggdiggerid, on 10/12/2008, -3/+7how is that any worse from anyone else getting that? some retard kid born in in alaska or wyoming is getting my taxpayer money and I don't even know him or want him to get any of that stuff -- how is he any different from a cuban that comes over here?
- lis880, on 10/12/2008, -0/+4They tuk ur jerrrrbs!!!!
- Beveridge89, on 10/12/2008, -2/+6Don't worry, we'll be first up against the wall when the revolution comes.
While we're waiting though, anyone else notice that most active communists are self-righteous, arrogant dicks? - oldhick, on 10/12/2008, -3/+7Certainly a great argument for it! /s
- tacojohn48, on 10/12/2008, -0/+4Wouldn't they want to stay in Cuba for that awesome health care system that Micheal Moore showed us.
- thirty6chambers, on 10/12/2008, -0/+4i think that missing cuban guy is playing for ac milan! let's get em!
- OrangeTide, on 10/12/2008, -1/+5No. America is just a better place to live than some places. So people immigrate here, illegally if they have to. It is no surprise to us. Usually people just come for the higher wages.
Sometimes people in the US immigrate elsewhere because their extreme ideologies prevent them from fitting into mainstream society. And you yourself may be considering leaving for this reason. But most people that leave the US do so because they found a higher paying job elsewhere. - Dred, on 10/13/2008, -0/+3Well first of all you dumbasses, THEY DON'T PAY TAXES!!!!! ever. The retard kid you talk about usually will not burden the system near as much as say, oh 11 million people. The retard kid will not default on home loans, after stealing all the valuable things within the home. I know this from experience, actually happened to the home I bought. The retard kid won't get a good construction job that would pay $15 hourly, for $8 an hour. I could go on, but I am sure I am wasting my time with you.
- solistus, on 10/12/2008, -1/+4Both sides oversimplify Cuba.
Of COURSE Cuba has problems. Defense of the Revolution Committees pressure citizens not to exercise their democratic rights, and prominent opposition figures often 'disappear' only to emerge decades later from re-education camps. It is silly to characterise Cuba as a utopia.
That said, it's absolutely ridiculous to view Cuba through the *****-coloured lenses of the American media. Just because Cuba is communist doesn't mean everything about their system is bad. Cuban health care may not be good enough for Castro's bourgeois tastes, but it's a hell of a lot better than ANY other country at similar per capita GDP levels as Cuba. In terms of providing basic care and prevention, Cuba's health care system is probably better than ours. They obviously fall well short in terms of cutting edge modern surgical techniques, MRI scans, etc., due to lack of money and equipment, but if you look 'objectively' at how Cuba has managed with its sharply limited resources due to decades of embargo, they are doing phenomenally well.
This same principle spills over to other aspects of Cuban life, too. In Cuba they have a word for this - resolviendo, the resolve to do what needs to be done to make things work. Cuban cars are mostly donations from the 1970's, yet most of them still run, often with hand-made replacements for various engine parts becaue the embargo keeps out 'authentic' replacements. Cubans make more of their own clothing and household goods than most other countries, including other poor countries, out of necessity.
Politically, Cuba seems very much like a great system run by a strongman who violates the Constitution left and right (sound familiar to any of my fellow Americans?). The Cuban Constitution gives the people the right to vote out ANY government official at ANY time with a referendum. While Defense of the Revolution Committees generally discourage people from exercising this right, it has been used several times in recent years to oust politicians who were in very high standing with the Party and have them replaced by peasants with no pre-existing ties to the Party elite. Castro has also been softening up in recent years, and Raul is looking to continue the trend; various consumer electronic goods have been unbanned in Cuba as oil deals with Venezuela have made energy security less pressing of a concern.
Many people want to leave Cuba and can't afford to do it legally, but that's not to say that Cuba blocks all emigration. Much like the US and most other countries, there are often fees and other requirements involved, and Cuba's crackdown on opposition means that some political prisoners are trapped in Cuba, but most Cubans who want to leave are stopped by the same thing that would-be emigrants around the world are - money. The majority of Cubans do not want to leave, and life is not the day-in, day-out hell that American media would have you believe.
The tl;dr version: Cuba's neither evil nor perfect. Like any other country on the planet, some people want to leave but most do not, and if you put Cubans' material conditions in the context of Cuba's per capita wealth, Cuba seems like a MUCH nicer place than most of its capitalist counterparts at similar wealth levels. Cuba puts the old myth that communist economies are inherently inefficient to rest as one of the most efficient economies in human history due to the extreme willingness to reuse and repair goods that would be tossed out in most "advanced" societies. Viva! - seefresh, on 10/12/2008, -0/+3I was wondering the same thing at first but then just told myself it was some dude that looks like Ronaldinho. I think you are right though.
- DiggCommentsSux, on 10/12/2008, -1/+4There is no embargo with any country in the world, other than the US. Deny Cubans contact with the outside world? I think you're projecting your worldview a little bit too much.
- Piontek, on 10/12/2008, -0/+3i remember there was a football world cup for homeless people here in denmark some time ago.. i think 15 out of about 500 went "missing".. the entire burundi and liberia teams and some from cameroon and afghanistan
- Valyn, on 10/12/2008, -2/+5Not surpried. Before I moved out of California, they were trying to get a law passed to issue driver's license's to Illegals. Thankfully it did not pass.
Just recently here in Portland, the city built a $200,000 building just so the illegals had an easy place to meet up and find day-labor. - camilos007, on 10/12/2008, -1/+4'Cause the article is about soccer. And Ronaldinho is a soccer player from latin america. And Cuba is also in Latin America.
So in conclusion, absolutely nothing. - inactive, on 10/12/2008, -0/+3I think they have to hide out for a year and if they can make it, they can stay here legally. Thats what i would do
- davecachia, on 10/12/2008, -0/+3Dugg for southpark reference
- caeser5786, on 10/12/2008, -3/+6you realize when stupidity crosses over into a delusional reality it is just pathetic. If Cubans are prospering in Cuba and loving it, then why is there no dissent? Why are Cubans pouring into America by any means necessary? Why is it that whenever someone goes against the regime you never hear from them again? Why did Castro bring doctors in from Spain instead of relying on his own supposed great health care system? Castro is a monster, he puts dissenters in "reeducation centers". Is that an excellent education system or is it political indoctrination? The crux of the matter is that socialism is slavery. Communism has failed, Cuba is holding on to a form of totalitarianism that has no place in this new century. Freedom always triumphs over slavery.
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