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- x1soundgarden1x, on 10/09/2008, -2/+35It is unbelievable that FIFA refuses to kick fans that display racist behavior out of stadiums. In America, it would take 5 minutes before someone shouting racist crap was either escorted out by police or killed by fans. Yet in Europe, this is what we get:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-iRLmaZf4A - munkybrains, on 10/09/2008, -0/+30As long as Sepp Blatter is in charge, Fifa will always be a farce. The mans an idiot. The majority of the changes to the game he has succesfuly implemented are nonsense and unneccesary. Not to mention his suggestion that womens football would be more popular if they wore "tighter shorts".
- blumpyX, on 10/09/2008, -2/+32Fifa are a joke. They care less about racism than they care about money and pies
- meruru, on 10/09/2008, -0/+29In their defense pies are delicious
- Jamminn, on 10/09/2008, -4/+24A British football story on the front page of digg?
Win :) - Ramenhood, on 10/09/2008, -2/+19It would be more popular if they wore tighter shorts..
- poidh, on 10/09/2008, -2/+18Because it's called football? Only people who can't speak English very well call it soccer.
- bcook2, on 10/09/2008, -1/+16TAKE AWAY THEIR ***** POINTS
- Agger, on 10/09/2008, -0/+14FIFA :)
- Stavrosian, on 10/09/2008, -0/+11Au contraire - they handed Aragonés a whopping £4,000 fine. Taking that out of his £3,000,000 p/a contract will let him know that FIFA is serious business.
They are a joke, Ferdinand is absolutely right. I've lost count of the number of times England players have been subjected to this kind of racist abuse now, and not a single one of the perpetrators has been disciplined properly - yet when English fans booed a national anthem it bothered Blatter so much that he threatened to have us thrown out of a tournament! What a corrupt, ridiculous organisation FIFA is. - Po0py, on 10/09/2008, -0/+10This comes after Sol Campbell had to endure a ***** storm of abuse from Spurs fans and that is what Rio Ferdinand is protesting over. I am a Spurs fan but even I was disgusted at some of our fans behaviour when we recently played Portsmouth. (For the uninitiated, Tottenham Hotspurs and Arsenal are fierce rivals; both clubs are from North London; Sol Campbell left Spurs for Arsenal and is now winding down his carear at Portsmouth.) Spurs fans (including myself) have hated Sol Campbel ever since he moved to Arsenal, it was considered at the time a huge betrayal. And even now that he is playing with Portsmouth many Spurs fans have not forgotten. Our current form on the pitch is absolute *****, we are bottom of the league table so we are all pissed at the moment and looking for people to blame. Sol got an earful of racist taunts from our fans the other week and it has left me rather ashamed and shocked to be a Spurs fan. He usually gets bood and that is normally the extent of it but this time they went to town on him. I hate the guy for doing what he did but ffs that crap was uncalled for.
Check out this video to see what I'm talking about: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=0_ajglPkfl8 - Shadic, on 10/09/2008, -1/+10Freedom is Speech is nice and all, but there is a certain "Disrupting the peace." sort of thing, too.
- poidh, on 10/09/2008, -0/+9This is more of a problem in continental Europe than it is in the UK. For example, Thierry Henri was voted the best player ever by Arsenal fans.
I'm all for free speech and free thought and if people want to be racist then let them, and let them talk about it and discuss it, but a football stadium is not the place for racist insults, just like any public place. - matt3454, on 10/09/2008, -0/+9I disagree, racism has been almost wiped out in England with the very successfull 'Kick it Out' campaign over the past few years.
Where it is at its worst is probably Spain, and it goes for all Sports, every time England play Spain, Englands coloured players are always subject to monkey noise chants.
For Spain it is not just Football that is the problem, its for all sports. When the Formula One test there in January 3 Spanish guys got dressed in full black make up with their tshirts saying 'Hamiltons Family', as well there was the picture of the Spanish basketball players all posing with the slit eye thing for the Beijing Games.
A lot of places need to sort their selves out. Being racist is almost in their nature, when it should not be.
- Supernova36, on 10/09/2008, -0/+9Sepp Blatter is an absolute moron.
- Cannonballkid, on 10/09/2008, -1/+9What your describing is not freedom of speech at least defined by American terms. I'm a student of law and these racist fans would undoubtedly fall under what we call "The Armed Words Doctrine" In theory Freedom of Speech is used as a means to enlighten or get across ideals racist stuff like this is only meant to provoke anger calling someone a derogatory word in no means is meant to promote understanding or beneficial ideals. Your trying to get a rise out of someone make them react through fear and or anger to the point where they feel threatened speech like this cannot be defended so don't be so quick to shield these cowards with rights.
- pbol01, on 10/09/2008, -0/+8Have you seen the women footballers?
- Supernova36, on 10/09/2008, -1/+9I honestly don't know how Spanish fans in particular get away with their racist *****. The monkey chants at England players, along with the Luis Aragonés incident are an absolute disgrace, and FIFA have done ***** all about any of it.
- inactive, on 10/09/2008, -1/+9I don't think you understand the way freedom of speech works, at least the way it works in America.
- FreddieD, on 10/09/2008, -0/+8FIFA is absolutely to blame, and FIFA president Sepp Blatter has done virtually nothing to stop it.
If in america anything *close* to bananas being thrown on the field occur, or a stadium full of tens of thousands synchronizing monkey chants whenever a black person touched the ball, holy hell would have been brought down on the entire organization.
The most hated black athlete in america I can think of is Barry Bonds. As much as nobody likes him, could you imagine the unanimous condemning of a group making monkey chants every time he came to the plate?
With FIFA, Sepp spews some political ***** about how it's bad and how they're working on it, then lets it go. - diggduggDOOM, on 10/09/2008, -4/+12FIFA or Fifa?
- LaGStAr, on 10/09/2008, -0/+7Is?
No, FIFA is an organisation, therefore, "FIFA is a joke" is correct you grammar ass. *
That may or may not be right, but it's a lot closer to grammatically correct. - SMOKIEdaBEAR04, on 10/09/2008, -0/+7I can't lie, I did laugh at that one.
- metapop, on 10/09/2008, -0/+7i found the sol campbell chant:
"Sol, Sol wherever you may be, not long now till lunacy, and we won't give a ***** when you're hanging from a tree, you Judas ***** with HIV"
not very nice, but not racist either. "hanging from a tree" does not hold the same cultural connotations as it does in the US, btw.
chelsea sang to spurs:
"Spurs are on their way to Auschwitz
Hitlers gonna gas them again "
if that's not blatantly racist, i don't know what is. - futebollounge, on 10/09/2008, -1/+7no no. see foot+ball. you use your feet. the sport your talking about is AMERICAN football. the inventors of it couldn't come up with a name so they called it football.
- grodrigu, on 10/09/2008, -0/+6Rio's just kidding. You got punk'd
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImKNo0AkoTE - owenblacker, on 10/09/2008, -0/+6Lol, sounds about right.
I'm pretty sure those ex-colonials use the term football to refer to some strange form of rugby, where all the players have to wear body armour in case they hurt themselves. Is that it? - polalion, on 10/09/2008, -0/+6A lot of it comes from Spain, really. Italy's league is as big but you don't hear much from there.
You know it's probably because there aren't many black players in Italy... - oopspoops, on 10/09/2008, -0/+5Boo Hoo. He's a homophobe, he was asked jokingly which Man U player he'd rather date and said he "wasn't a ***** into bumming geezers". All or nothing when it comes to equality.
- fearlessfrog, on 10/09/2008, -1/+5Yeah, but does he get called a terrorist?
Rio's right - FIFA is weak and should do something rather than small fines and hand-waving. - TSK05, on 10/09/2008, -0/+4"What your describing is not freedom of speech at least defined by American terms"
Really? Because last I heard, the supreme court ruled that Nazi's can hold protests and rally's and same applies to racists. So I am pretty sure it is freedom of speech.
I think that the vast majority of you only care for freedom of speech when it agrees with your ideals. - SiL3ncer, on 10/09/2008, -0/+4I share the same opinion with Ferdinand. FIFA does talk a good game about dealing with racism in our beautiful game of football, but more than often the offenders escape with a little slap on the wrist. No violator has received meaningful punishment so far, not even when Eto had to endure monkey chants in Spain about a year ago. So far I will call Spaniards the worst violators, I may be wrong, but I think they have the most severe case of racism in football.
- poidh, on 10/09/2008, -1/+5I think the Eastern European fans are pretty big on racism.
I can remember when it was a problem here in the UK in the 80s, but a lot has changed since then.
It just used to make me cringe when there'd be a crowd of racist fans shown on TV. Whatever anyone thinks about race, these players are here to play football - who cares about their geo-genetics as long as they "give 110% at the end of the day".
I actually think that black football players have done a lot to lessen racism in this country. Even if you're some bigot, it's difficult not to like some guy like Henri when you see the sheer skill he posseses.
Anyway, ***** those guys making the monkey chants. Ban them for life and take points from the teams they support - watch as the racist chants drop off to almost nothing. - Tr33fiddy, on 10/09/2008, -0/+4I should add, the lunacy/hanging from a tree parts are references to his mental fragility highlighted when he went AWOL while at Arsenal.
- futebollounge, on 10/09/2008, -0/+4damn your a disgrace to wu-tang
- jonnyfatman, on 10/09/2008, -1/+5In their defense, pies IS delicious?
- Clbull, on 10/09/2008, -1/+5All the Croatian FA got was a £15,000 fine??? That sucks. A £15,000 fine is not going to do anything to prevent racism, and a premiership footballer makes that in a few days ffs
I think they should at least be given an even larger fine, or in extreme cases even disqualification from the next world cup. Racism isn't acceptable, and neither is the low fine that FIFA gave - polalion, on 10/09/2008, -0/+3I'm an Arsenal fan actually, and I loved watching Henry play. A pity about him in Barcelona now though, but the club had to move on without him.
If there's any consolation to the targets of such racism, they should know that they were targeted because they are good players. I think an excellent example would be Eto'o. - metapop, on 10/09/2008, -2/+5here is the case which started this argument:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/p/p ...
FIFA is dead wrong- what the spurs supporters were saying was cruel and graphic, but not racist. if you police what one team chants, you have to police them all- no one said anything when chelsea supporters chanted about gas chambers (spurs supporters are generalized as jews), why are they making such a big deal out of sol campbell chants? - Gr1nch, on 10/09/2008, -1/+4*shirts
- owenblacker, on 10/09/2008, -0/+3Personally, I don't see why Croatia (and Spain) shouldn't be made to play to empty stadia for a while, just like England was after the hooliganism of the 1980s.
I'm sure the national FA(s) would do something about racism pretty damn quickly… - socalftw, on 10/09/2008, -12/+15Money is their GOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLL!!!! ..... sorry couldn't help myself
- aerospacemonkey, on 10/09/2008, -1/+4Freedom of speech exists, but then again the teams also have the right to throw you out if and when you do something they don't like.
The stadia are private property, after all. - matt3454, on 10/09/2008, -0/+3And also captained Man Utd to their Premiership and Champions League wins last year?
(I do not support Man Utd, Walsall supporter here, and probably the only one on the internet lol) - Pr0phecy88, on 10/09/2008, -0/+2Ah the Balkans. If there's ever a group of people more bigoted and racist than us, the world's in deep trouble. Kako ste braco :)
Croatian fans: http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l166/Pr0phecy_20 ... - scoottie, on 10/09/2008, -0/+2Das fuhrer .... ? Even if your name had no connection to one of the biggest racists and xenophobes your argument has no merit since i am not English nor am a fan of anything English. Second learn to read first because i didnt say ban international play completely i said for FIFA not to sanction (which means put their name and resources behind the matches) anything in Croatia. This would cause local officials to lose revenue until they fixed the problem while at the same time letting the Croatian national tema and club teams to keep playing international games outside the country.
- noino1966, on 10/09/2008, -0/+2Best ever chant...
England V Germany games....
"Two world wars and one world cup doo dah doo dah...Two world wars and one world cup doo da doo dah daayyyy..." - bonjourmr, on 10/09/2008, -0/+2It *is* true though.
- celeryuk, on 10/09/2008, -0/+2here here! amazing. Is this UK DIGG or something?
- owenblacker, on 10/09/2008, -0/+2I'm pretty sure I remember hearing that Italian football has a similar problem with racism, just that (as you said) there are fewer black players.
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