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- eminn3m, on 05/14/2009, -2/+85GET RID OF THE FILE OR WE WILL SEND MORE MAILS.
WE’RE SUPER SERIOUS - Rapheal99, on 05/13/2009, -8/+78***** THE RIAA, THE MPAA
AND ALL THE A'S
LONG LIVE, THE PIRATE BAY! - inactive, on 05/14/2009, -3/+39A loverly quote from the article.
"Perhaps even worse, anyone can send out a fake e-mail to someone claiming to be BayTSP. XSS vulnerabilities on the site make it pretty easy to fabricate fake complaints and convince innocent people that to avoid court they have to download trojans, or perhaps even enter credit card details to pay a small fine."
So does this mean the RIAA and MPAA are thus responsible for any trojans or stolen credit card details when someone complies to their security ridden take down notices.
Step 1. send out infringement warning.
Step 2. Invade persons computer with trojans and viruses and steal credit card information.
Step 3.???
Step 4. Profit.
Step 5. Get your asses sued by people and lose all your profit.
Step 6. Bribe judges and congressmen so you will win all your court cases no matter how flimsy.. and nefarious. Go back to step 1. - Spo8, on 05/14/2009, -1/+31Once I got a warning for downloading a Crysis language file. (Really? The language file is what you go after?)
It literally said "please delete the file in question and confirm that you have done so."
lol... - thesmallone29, on 05/14/2009, -1/+21I'm being super serial...
- khaosx2030, on 05/14/2009, -0/+20Hey buddy, delete that file.
...Please?
:(
Gee this is just as effective as the "DON'T COPY THAT FLOPPY" video. - twiztidsinz, on 05/14/2009, -1/+20Well... do you OWN that language? I don't think so!!!
- Defiant001, on 05/14/2009, -0/+18I haven't copied a floppy since!
- inactive, on 05/14/2009, -0/+12FTA: "For those people in receipt of an infringement notice it might be good to know that their case becomes closed as soon as they indicate that they have removed the infringing file from their computer. Easy as that. Those who do not comply will receive additional notices until they do so."
If you indicate you removed it you are admitting guilt! And they can use that against you in other cases! Do not respond in any way. Do not speak, etc. - davewelsh79, on 05/14/2009, -0/+11They have an IP address and the time it was in use. They ask the associated ISP to forward their extortion letter to the applicable email address.
I've never accessed the email account my ISP set up and I image many others are the same. - dequo, on 05/14/2009, -1/+11i know the language file youre talking about. dont tell anyone else ok
- inactive, on 05/14/2009, -0/+10Its the same logic the RIAA use. If it can be used for infringement then it must be made illegal.
- nyxerebos, on 05/14/2009, -1/+9The North American Marlon Brando Look-Alikes?
- Jimbob0i0, on 05/14/2009, -0/+7I thought option one was hilarious personally...
"Yes. I've complied and removed all copyrighted material for which I'm not the copyright holder from my computer and / or network."
Now I have a lot of copyrighted material on my PC... in fact I can't think of one piece of public domain material that exists on it..... so to follow through with this I guess I should just format all my hard drives - after all everything from Gimp to Windows to Firefox is copyrighted by some entity that is not me... - falafelkiosken, on 05/14/2009, -0/+7what about 1 byte? What about 0x41, that's probably in some copyrighted digital music file somewhere, sue me
- Travelsonic, on 05/14/2009, -0/+7Why would he?
- dimanorcal, on 05/15/2009, -0/+6***** the R I double-A
***** the M P double-A
***** the suits behind the BSA
And ***** them all for the DMCA - DivisibleByZero, on 05/14/2009, -0/+6While their system is vulnerable to attack, "completely useless" might be too strong of a description. If you get one of these emails, I'm assuming you could feasibly call BayTSP instead of filling out their web form? You'll find out pretty quick if the email was bogus or not.
- falafelkiosken, on 05/14/2009, -0/+6FTA: "When someone shares a piece of a copyrighted file with them, they log the IP-address, look up the ISP and send out a copyright infringement notice automatically."
that's kinda weird, is it illegal to make fragments of copyrighted materials available? let's say I only download 10% of a song, would that make me guilty of copyright infringement? quoting a short part of a book, film or song isn't illegal - protogenxl, on 05/14/2009, -1/+7I was wondering why the RIAA said they were Charging Their Lazor.
- garrettg84, on 05/14/2009, -0/+6@funkyloki
I like that logic. They should have to prove you got the entire file, and that the file was indeed not corrupt. In that instance, the company doing the 'research' would have to have the rights to redistribute that file, or they themselves could be sued by the RIAA. If they had the rights to distribute that file, then you downloading it wouldn't be a problem...Nice - shadownetwork, on 05/14/2009, -0/+6How do they know which email is yours? Bit Torrent doesn't require user registrations.
- Gndoab, on 05/14/2009, -6/+12I like the leap of logic.
Someone could abuse this. it is therefore completely useless.
that's a bit much even for torrentfreak. - jjustin01, on 05/14/2009, -0/+5***** AA
- scarwars, on 05/14/2009, -0/+5and what's wrong with that?
- InsaneMachine, on 05/14/2009, -0/+5I never use my ISP email either. Yet I got a copyright notice for thanksgiving, and instead of being forwarded to my dad's email who owned the account, it somehow went to my own private yahoo email.
If anyone can explain that, it would be appreciated. - funkyloki, on 05/14/2009, -0/+5I'm cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs...
- specialK16, on 05/14/2009, -0/+5Detective: Don't worry Mr. Simpson, when I'm done with him[Sideshow Bob], he'll have no choice but to leave town. (pulls out a gun).
(later at a bar).
Detective: Come on!
Sideshow Bob: No.
Detective: Leave town, come on, don't be mean!
Sideshow Bob: No.
Detective: I thought we were friends. - garrettg84, on 05/14/2009, -0/+5@finalsolution
....DO YOU? - LeviTheSmith, on 05/14/2009, -0/+4*****
- inactive, on 05/15/2009, -0/+4Corporate terrorism
- bcr8u, on 05/14/2009, -0/+4and NAMBLA
- NJank, on 05/14/2009, -2/+6in short, yes it is illegal.
- messiahb, on 05/14/2009, -2/+6I too am cereal...
- garrettg84, on 05/14/2009, -0/+3Same logic the RIAA uses in another sense as well. If you have the file on your computer and it is shared (known or uknown to you) then somebody certainly downloaded it and you are distributing copyrighted material.
- CATSCEO2, on 05/15/2009, -1/+4***** THE NATIONAL OCEANIC AND ATMOSPHERIC ADMINISTRATION!!
- WarriorBlake, on 05/14/2009, -0/+3DON'T FLOPPY THAT COPY!
- Travelsonic, on 05/14/2009, -0/+3"
Someone could abuse this. it is therefore completely useless."
The logic is that it can, and systems like this HAVE been abused (Youtube's DMCA notice thing), therefroe it is ultimately useless. I personally believe safeguards can be implemented, and it is useful - not as pessimistic as the article's author. - funkyloki, on 05/14/2009, -1/+4But it shouldn't be. I can't do anything with a fragment of a digital file.
- Travelsonic, on 05/14/2009, -1/+4Buried for attacking the source, not the information. ANYTHING can be biased, ESPECIALLY the RIAA/BSA/MPAA's side AS WELL as TorrentFreak, surely one should be able to glean the facts from both side with some critical thinking>
- freezo1994, on 05/31/2009, -0/+2***** CAPS
- greevar, on 05/15/2009, -0/+2word
- nyxerebos, on 05/14/2009, -0/+2They must have some working contact details for billing, didn't they want your alternate when you signed up with them?
- Myztry, on 05/14/2009, -0/+2Many ISP's don't even provide email addresses by default. Many people don't even bother setting up, or adding one through the admin interface when it's going to become invalid apon switching providers. So there is often no email address for contact.
The ISP can still contact the account holder, as that is what the billing address is for. Though the ISP should get a billing address from the purported unverified agent of the right holder, before spending stamps on communications.
I should probably check my Gmail account occasionally as that's the address I nominate for temporary services (like my ISP) occasionally. But I don't. Nobody with connections to marketing firms (including my ISP) gets my real email on my domain. - xino, on 05/14/2009, -1/+3***** the NCAA as well?
- inactive, on 05/14/2009, -0/+2You only receive those notices if you ISP goes through the trouble of forwarding them to you. I'm pretty sure most just toss them into a big dumpster.
- SuicideMouse, on 05/14/2009, -0/+2http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Xfqkdh5Js4
- funkyloki, on 05/15/2009, -0/+2That is some great advice when dealing in any legal action, including civil cases. The only person you should ever tell everything to in those cases is your lawyer.
- candlestickjack, on 05/15/2009, -0/+2YEAH!!! EFF EM!
- Fragalishus, on 05/14/2009, -0/+2I rarely check my Verizon account, but I logged in the other day and saw a copyright notice from back in January. One of the rare times I used TPB to get a torrent, as I've always thought they were watched a little more than others.
I mean, I don't download torrents...ever. But if I did, I'd say "***** 'em." -
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