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- rasterbator, on 10/12/2007, -6/+89Yeah, pretty soon the USA will require Visa AND MasterCard to come here from Sweden.
- MrViklund, on 10/12/2007, -8/+62They are paranoid, that's all I can say.
I'm right now in the process to applying for a Visa to the USA and the amount of information they want and question they want answered is insane. They also want a personal interview at the embassy. And I mean, this is from Sweden. I can't believe that you need Visa from Sweden to USA. - NX910a, on 10/12/2007, -4/+46I think the U.S. is not all being concerned enough about this. When national security is at stake, 10 fingerprints clearly is not sufficient. At least five more fingerprints should be required, and ten more would be ideal
- strangerzero, on 10/12/2007, -10/+47America has turned into a Kafkaesque police state.
- dominasian, on 10/12/2007, -5/+32ive got eleven fingers( an extra one on my left hand)
so ***** you FBI - saikhan, on 10/12/2007, -5/+32My cousin Gries told me this was the land of the free!
- spatznick, on 10/12/2007, -3/+30oh, but I lost THAT finger in an accident...
- DaneArden, on 10/12/2007, -4/+26"America is trying to protect your civil liberties "
civil liberties?
You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means. - eleventybillion, on 10/12/2007, -3/+25@rabidjade
Ever go through US Customs?
I walk straight through (white male). My fiance (Thai woman with dark complexion) is stopped every time, and her brother (Thai and even darker) is usually brought to an interrogation room every time. Granted his English is not as good as either of the two of us, but he has a valid passport, a valid visa, all required information, etc.
My friend is a light-skinned black man, and his brother is considerably darker. Guess which one gets hassled coming back from Canada.
Profiling isn't real? You're either white, or clueless, or a nice healthy mix.... - capiCrimm, on 10/12/2007, -1/+21@NX910a
20 fingerprints just won't do it. I propose placing all foreigners in a carbon-freeze. If they commit a crime then we can just thaw them out, and we save the hassle of hunting them down. - RogerStrong, on 10/12/2007, -8/+27This is more about tracking Americans than tracking foreigners.
Americans aren't required by Canada to have a passport when they visit. They are however required by the U.S. to have one in order to return home. As for any purchases you make, your credit card data is already sent back home too.
The U.S. has also made argeements to receive information whenever a U.S. passport is flashed by someone travelling from a second country to a third country.
Now, don't have a warm fuzzy feeling of security? - thefirstenemy, on 10/12/2007, -3/+22"America is trying to protect your civil liberties"
Haha. Irony. - Ryosen, on 10/12/2007, -3/+21@RogerStrong
"As for any purchases you make, your credit card data is already sent back home too."
Could that be because the bank issuing that credit card is in the US? - allaboutdatiki, on 10/12/2007, -3/+20What about retinal scans?
- t3hmun, on 10/12/2007, -3/+20'Terrorists' can't touch our liberties.
Only your government can take away your liberties. - JimLahey, on 10/12/2007, -1/+18Im gonna stay in Sunnyvale Trailer Park in Nova Scotia and get drunk as ***** with Randy-Bo-Bandy. ***** going to some commie country where you have to piss in a cup and have your eyeballs scanned to get in.
- welk, on 10/12/2007, -2/+17Perosnally i just don't see that the USA is worth visiting for a vacation/holiday anymore, it all just seems too much trouble. Does not seem very welcoming, being fingerprinted on arrival. don't get me wrong, countries are free to have any requirements for visitors they want, but people are also free not to visit places that have requirements like these. I can't imagine these requirements help the tourist industry in the USA much.
- DoubtfulSalmon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+15I agree. Actually, this new move has zero effect on me. I resolved that America was the one country on this planet that I will never, ever visit back when they started this photo/fingerprint *****.
My view is that there's still the 90% of my own country (Australia) that I haven't seen yet, and there's a *lot* of really great countries in Asia and the Pacific to visit. Why would I bother with an arrogant and disrespectful place like America? - supermanred, on 10/12/2007, -7/+21LOL a few more Patriot Acts or Freedom Proclomations or Go GI Joe Sign This You Idiots bills and you guys down south will have UPC tattoos like in the Idiocracy movie.
Tell them the Patriot Act and all these Big Brother schemes are Un-American and Un-Patriotic.
If you don't bitch about it, you aren't a patriot. Protest, write an email, hell make a bumpersticker or something. Try everything you can non-violent and legal to get your rights back, and if that doesn't work burn the ***** down to the ground.
I would love to see the United States restored to the free-est country in the world.
Get rid of these idiots that are trying to scare you into converting your country into 1984 Big Brother ***** no freedom land. You're half way there. Stop them now.
Good luck.
"Freedom Or Death"
- Motto I've personally seen on some State's license plates. - matrix0f8h, on 10/12/2007, -2/+14...from my cold dead hands...
- dorkyone, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13As a Canadian citizen, this is one more reason that I refuse to vacation in the U.S. any more. I find the fact that I will be required to be finger printed by a foreign country to be especial offensive and an invasion of my personnel privacy.
- supermanred, on 10/12/2007, -3/+15Keep your huge government spying and non-freedom military state to yourself, bud. Up here in Canada we're rooting for your freedoms to be restored and it saddens me to hear that people like you are okay with losing your freedoms in order to protect your freedom.
It's like this. You have a beloved Apple Macbook. I am the government. I come into your house, smack you upside the head (without a trial, because I can.) then I take your macbook away and as Im driving off I tell you "I'm only doing this to protect your macbook. ". You never see your macbook again and cry about it all day long, but when you finally decide to come get your macbook back, I've already passed 23 laws that make it illegal for you to talk about your macbook, attempt to get your macbook, look at a macbook, or gather in public to discuss macbook rescues." Your *****. No more macbook for you.
Like I say. Freedom or death. Anything inbetween is not the American Dream. - chaddles, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11"Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety"
-Ben Franklin - vsujohn2, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12Maybe not 10 fingerprints, just 1, my ***** middle finger
- goeatsmsht, on 10/12/2007, -4/+15as soon as the technology becomes inexpensive.........
- johnboyholmes, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10I like what Brazil did, they now fingerprint and photograph all US citizens when they enter the country. Yes it is slightly childish, and I know if you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear, but as someone who has nothing to hide I find customs checks are annoying enough without adding more hassels. I have never heard any evidence that shows the current measures are doing anything, so why make them more tedious.
I think every other country should adopt a similar policy and fingerprint US citizens on entry and see how much they like it. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12They might as well give the balls a lil jiggle so we can at least get something out of all this cause it isn't going to stop terrorists.
- SmartITGuy, on 10/12/2007, -3/+13Won't be long before the US gov't and the "department of wonderland security" issue a decree that every person entering the US, will be accompanied/followed by an agent for the entire duration of the visit. (...And STILL collect urine/blood/dna samples)
...That should reduce the unemployment rate too at the same time. - supermanred, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10Re: archer75
hey look everybody, the White House isn't completely out of touch. They have one of the interns posting comments on sensitive topics on Digg. Nice try archer75. We're backtracing your IP to the White House. Nice try Bushie! You're finally getting the hang of the ol' internets and the google! - schwit, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10I wonder if the fingerprints get checked against the Interpol database immediately.
Wait till they want DNA. - supermanred, on 10/12/2007, -3/+12Yep. Good thing you guys are stil allowed to carry guns in most states. If you keep re-electing these bozos, the time will come again for American civil war, this time it will be North united with the South to remove the government from Saudi Arabia and Dubai (You know, those Bushes and Cheneys who steal your money and move it to Dubai... Those bushes and cheneys who's best buddies are Saudi Arabia (you know, the ones who knocked down those towers in New York)... The bushes and cheneys who rather than smack Saudi Arabia in the face, decided to invade Iraq and steal more of your money and get your loyal brave soldiers killed)
Dont let it get to that point. Stop them now legally and non-violently. Vote them out and demand your rights back. Freedom or death. Nothing inbetween can be considered the American Dream. - drlha, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9"I can't believe that you need Visa from Sweden to USA."
You don't. Sweden is part of the Visa waiver program for the USA. If you mean you need a visa to come here to work or live, then yes, everyone needs that apart from maybe Canadians. - Ngai, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9There will be a day when we will all have to stand up and fight!
sorry its the Indian in me.... - DougO, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8More americans died last year by having snack machines fall on them than by terrorists. Something to ponder while wiping the ink off your fingers...
- Travelsonic, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8What would these extra finger prints really do to help us?
- nanboya, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Next thing you know, they'll want to scan the skin pattern of my sack everytime I cross the border...
"Sir, please remove your pants and T-bag the scanner please..." - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+11Ah, but I still have my toes. Let's see what happens when I use my feet to rob something!
- bonlebon, on 10/12/2007, -5/+12Why do you all complain?, give them the finger and move on.
- Franey97, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9Bush has done a fantastic job creating a culture of fear.
- DoubtfulSalmon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7@p51d007: "Our country, our rules.......don't like it? Don't come here. Simple as that."
Yes, you're right. It is your ***** up country and they are your ***** up rules. You can keep 'em. I'll stick to travelling the other 99% of the planet that isn't ***** up.
@tactix: "US citizens only of course), then you will be OK with it?"
Actually, I think that would be great. All border points have a single "Americans" lane and twenty "Humans" lanes. The humans get treated like humans, and the Americans... well, we treat them as they'd treat us. Arseholes! (that's Australian for "*****") - PastorFrancisCC, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9Kudos Accenture! Glad to see that you are making your filthy money by helping to paint yellow stars on brown people. Accenture is to USA2007 as IBM was to Germany1940.
- supermanred, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9Im not sure they voted him in at all. I've watched a special here on CBC that showed how easy it was to hack one of those voting machines with a palm pilot, basic network knowledge and a copy of microsoft office. LOL the database completely un-encrypted. Just have to edit a couple excel files. L O L!!!!
- InstantABS, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Yes, America has grown to the land of absurd.
- kronix2, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Thank you, littlegreenlzrd, for reminding us that many people are still gullible enough to accept the eroding of their civil liberties in the "fight" against terror.
- RussellDovey, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Actually I do eat a ham all at once. And boy is my heart tired.
- Syntaxis, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6For the sake of freedom? I'm not going to the USA so I shouldn't bother, right? Wrong. I bother because your country has the most advanced military in the world and their leaders are becoming more and more threatening to the rest of the globe.
Make no mistake: your image of freedom is laughed at world wide already. Your democracy looks like a cruel joke. Nobody likes you. We only like Hollywood and the nice movies and tv-shows coming from it. Oh, the Grand Canyon is nice, too. But that's all you have going for you.
The respect is gone. And when your tourists want to visit Hollywood or the Grand Canyon you scare them away by taking their fingerprints for no good reason. The reason? War against terrorism? Please.
"According to these fingerprints it was Muhammed Ali Baba who blew himself up! But that was a false ID."
Yeah. Enjoy your knowledge. - tactix, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Ok. So the same will work in reverse will it. If my country decides to impose fingerprinting on you if you ever want to come here (US citizens only of course), then you will be OK with it??.
And since when has the US kindly left its nose out of other countries business. Pot calling the kettle black aint it.
Your free to bitch about the the laws in your own country, but kindly leave your nose out of the rest of the worlds business"
I think any comments along the lines of "well if you dont like it dont come here" are kneejerk at best, blatantly idiotic at worst. I think you may retract your comments when the multi billion dollar tourism industry falls to these sorts of policies, and you are unable to leave your own shores due to perverse travel restrictions and invasion of personal liberties as you arrive in other countries. Many countries may start to believe in an eye for an eye. I would certianly love a separate line for US citizens (and those citizens member states of the war for oil) at all airports worldwide. Maybe this will be the only way to show the populations of these countries how out of wack with the rest of the civilised world (minus the UK and a few others) policies like this are. What does the US population need to get a reality check of the common opinion of the world community, A "f@@K" you attitude will only work for so long, or you will end up the ones f@@ked - drlha, on 10/12/2007, -7/+12"This is more about tracking Americans than tracking foreigners."
No. They don't fingerprint US Citizens or Legal Permenant Residents on entry to the USA, only non-resident aliens and visitors. - antechinus, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6As an Australian citizen I second that. There are lots of friendlier, cooler and more interesting places to holiday in anyway. Here, one only gets fingerprinted if one is suspected of wrongdoing (i.e is arrested) and we don't fingerprint holiday makers.
I will certainly advise anyone I know to think twice about going to the US. Innocent people don't like their fingerprints being recorded. The US also gives no warranty that they will not share the information with other parties. You guys have a police state in the making. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8hahahah its pretty funny... Its as if they think that there are people that Want to go to America
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