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- Zzyw, on 10/12/2007, -5/+54Those idiots aren't hackers. Hackers have skills, script kiddies don't. The article even uses the latter term correctly, so why call them hackers?
- m0laria, on 10/12/2007, -4/+46i'm in ur X's Y'ing ur memes
- DarkSenay, on 10/12/2007, -2/+35I'm Ron Burgundy?
- hackwrench, on 10/12/2007, -1/+29In other words: Mr. Anderson
- Akaji, on 10/12/2007, -7/+35RAM the megabytes!
Also, why use hacker when they should be saying cracker? - karasin, on 10/12/2007, -2/+22Silly Rabbit parameter injections are for kids... Who made their web site?
- thatrez, on 10/12/2007, -0/+18From the article"Another recent example of a script kiddie in action took place at the FBI. In this case, the hacker-next-door was a paid consultant. The suspect used “computer programs easily found on the Internet” to go snooping into passwords and files throughout the FBI’s organization, including data related to the Witness Protection Program. In no time, the suspect gained access to the passwords of 38,000 employees, including that of FBI Director Robert S. Mueller III."
That is not what happened. I remember this story very well. What really happened was this: Every time he had to add or remove a piece of hardware, even a printer, the way Active Directory was configured it wouldn't let him do it without the UNP for that system. So he kept a list of the systems he worked on, Including, the directors computer, who happened to completley computer incompetent and constantly needed help. One day he came into work and was asked to fix a problem with the directors computer, but the director wasn't in. So he consulted his password list, but he was seen by another empoyee entering the password. He was put immediatly on "Unpaid Leave" while they launched a full scale investigation, they alleged he must have used some kind of trojan horse or back door to gather the list of passwords he had, he told them he did not use any software, and why he kept the list. They audited his work computer and his laptop at home, found no hacker programs of any kind other then a port scanner (C'mon who doesn't have a port scanner). He got off, but was fired, and is probably blacklisted. If I remember correctly he had to goto trial over it too, but I think he won, some victory. - mc7winkie, on 10/12/2007, -0/+15Those aren't hackers. Those are douche bags and script kiddies at that.
- fr0x, on 10/12/2007, -0/+13Considering that the site is supposed to be for 'security professionals' we're all doomed.
The article sucks. - EgoDemens, on 10/12/2007, -4/+17No, I am Spartacus!
- spacebar14, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12"Have you ever noticed the “Administrator” ID next to your name when you login to your workstation? That’s a privileged user and password, a backdoor into your system built by the manufacturer. It can not be disabled or destroyed."
Whattt? No. Erm.. when I login to my workstation I see...
mbrown@midas:~$ - SgtBeavis, on 10/12/2007, -2/+14You're a used Trojan
- Urusai, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11Government: "The man next to you could be a terrorist/hacker/drug dealer/pedophile/thoughtcriminal! Fear thy neighbor, not us!"
- williamdyer, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13The purpose of having articles like this placed in the press is to make all of us suspects. ***** the propagandists.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+14I don't know what cases the FBI is chasing but my experience is completely different. Almost every hack attempt I've researched on the public servers I've administrated have come from foreign countries like: Saudi Arabia, Ukraine, China, and Taiwan. And the evidence pointed to it being from there, not my next cubicle neighbor using a proxy from abroad.
- Lyianis, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10My favorite part of the whole article
"Have you ever noticed the “Administrator” ID next to your name when you login to your workstation? That’s a privileged user and password, a backdoor into your system built by the manufacturer. It can not be disabled or destroyed."
The author literally has no idea what hes talking about. - etjazz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8"the most common hacker is probably sitting in the cubicle next to you"*
rly? the fat guy who doesn't know how to operate his own printer? I would never had guessed .... - CaptainMcCrank, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8I love these articles that reference FBI findings without providing a reference to THE ACTUAL FBI FINDINGS!!
- Hydraulix, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9I'm asparagus!
- J3yrad, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5And I'm a MAC!
- ragipy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5"He has a social security number, pays his taxes, and he helps his landlady carry out her garbage."
- fulldecent, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I am Iron Man
- DeltaX, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5TRS-80 workstation?
- AF-Geek, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Wow, thanks for the rest of that story. The article sure put a different spin on it!
I could be in the same situation, and they WOULD find "hacker" programs on my personal machine ("Know thine enemy" and all that...). - mt066, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5He also cooks weird smelling food in the microwave that makes the whole room smell like onions. He does it like 2 hours before lunch so that I am thinking about food for half the morning instead of working.
- robmalchow, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5worst. article. ever.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I think. Therefore I am.
- RobototoboR, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4C-C-COMBO BREAKER
- noamsml, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Obviously, they can network a TRS-80 'cause they've got m4d sk1llz.
- Archon810, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3*I* am tired of this thread.
- Ghozt64, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6Digg strips script tags, encoded (working) link below:
http://www.securitypark.co.uk/newsbycategory.asp?categoryid=1&title=%3Cscript%3Ealert(String.fromCharCode(83,81,76,32,101,114,114,111,114,115,32,97,110,100,32,88,83,83))%3C/script%3E - ZaNkY, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3FUD. That's all this article is. Undugg + Inaccurate.
- hackajar, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4What about those that do hacking for a living? EVERYONE in your office is the hacker! (no seriously)
- browwiw, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2This is just McCarthy-esque fear-mongering. Replace the word 'hacker' with 'communist' and this would be straight out of the 50's. Well, except for all the references to modern technology, but you know what I mean.
- Steeple, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2IS YOUR NEIGHBOR A COMMUNIST?
report your suspicions to the authorities - ybreton, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4You mean like nunchuck skills, bowhunting skills...
- brakk, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I am Batman.
- BESTenemy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I have a cubicle in my house?! No way!
- manova, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I don't think the general public knows the difference. Ask your parents if they know the difference between a hacker and a script kiddie. Most would not have a clue. If a person can break a simple password, they are a hacker to them. Now, I'll admit this article is not well written, but the basic take home message is: There are more script kiddies than true hackers and script kiddies can still cause some problems, especially if you have poor security.
- DoMaGe, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2exactly... because trash-80's could be networked, you know...
- LoganKriete, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I broke the dam.
- theseans, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I feel so much stupider for reading that whole thing.
- Ruski, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Edit glich
- Ltgeo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I am the Walrus.
- shinynew, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2No, I am the eggman.
wait what? - SjRaptor, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Where the ***** do they get these numbers from? 70%? read the damn FBI report yourself here if you wish
http://www.gocsi.com/
no where does it state 70% of incidents come from insiders...buried. - gameguy43, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I...am....job.
(doubtfire) - CARPEDATAM, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1This is all based on "reported" data. Employees who are caught more easily and have committed crime are more likely to be charged. Also... stolen/missing gear is also required to be reported in many states... creating a head fake away from the long tail of the hacker community.
- igyigyigy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1AFAIR you can remove the administrator account on Windows manually, it's not a good idea, but it's possible.
- m0nk, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Actually, when I went through the some serious training on the subject, the instructor, a 20 year security professional, gave the number closer to 90% of all incidents to be internal. He had even gathered a fair number of case studies to back that up. After the training, and seeing how easy it is for someone to do damage from the inside, I don't doubt that number.
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