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- Dradis, on 10/12/2007, -5/+26This is cool and all, but I'm not quite sure why this is on Digg.. the first Phalanx came out in 1980, and the 1B version has been out for 7 years.
- M2Ys4U, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14It's called "burying". Click on "bury story".
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+14Because more people think it is than think it isn't or else it'd get dugg down, not up.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10As featured in BF2 on the aircraft carriers :)
- mightymouse, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11I remember using this in battlefield 2.
- Gflat, on 10/12/2007, -4/+11While I agree that guns are cool, and radar fire rapid guns are cool, I just can't see digging for an announcement of a logistics support contract for a system that has been in use since the middle of the cold war. Neat, but no digg
- crashflow, on 10/12/2007, -5/+11minigun == dugg
- Artifez, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7The metal storm company is now running tests on a similar system that operates on a much smaller scale. If it pans out it could be used to intercept RPGs and LAWs incoming to tanks and APCs. Very cool tech.
- Rocksea24, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9This is news because a new contract has been taken out for the company to produce more/better CIWS and it may lead to a newer better missle defense system.
- thegreatsam, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4How can I mount one of these to my car?
- joshjoneswas, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6I am very happy (96%) with this gun. I think that it will hit its targets alot (93%). I think if less money (99%) were spent on it, though, it would be a better bargain. I also think that Saudi Arabia is more likely (100%) to turn around and use it almost exclusively (94%) on us. We should cut them out of it (0%) and bring the coast guard from their low (4.6%) to a higher number (70%). Everyone knows the coast guard is itching for some fire power (100%).
- wayjer, on 10/12/2007, -9/+13When did it become a requirement to only submit stories about new technology?
- atroph, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Actually the CIWS mounts are on many many ships in the Navy fleet. Cruisers, destroyers, carriers, amphibs, etc... The ship I am on unfortunately doesn't have them :( I have seen them fire in person on a cruiser and boy is it impressive. They are prone to mechanical, and electronic faults from time to time, and the CIWS acronym was dubbed "Christ It Won't Shoot." I figure as technology advances so will these gun mounts.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3NO!
- atroph, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3The Sum of All Fears
- cawpin, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Yes, you can vote against it. That's what burying is.
- drimo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I believe the Phalanx system is also on many destroyers as well.
- OBKenobi, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5[quote]How can I mount one of these to my car?[/quote]
You need to buy one of these:
http://www.shipunov.com/eng/zencom/panz.htm
The Phalanx is kind of old by now and its effectiveness against the latest generation of stealthy, supersonic, multi-tragectory antiship missiles is questionable. Once it runs out of ammo shooting down the first couple of missiles, it has a 9 minute reload time, which means the 20-??? missiles behind the first are going to get through and tear your ship to pieces.
If a carrier group has say, 20 Phalanx systems, that means at best it can shoot down 60 missiles and that's unlikely, 30-40 is much more likely. If it comes down to attacking a carrier group, you can be sure an enemy nation will launch everything they have, which will be a barrage of HUNDREDS of missiles.
The Phalanx is only useful against isolated attacks from outdated militaries and lone terrorists, not in something like a war against a major country like China, or possibly even Iran, depending on how much Iran really has bought and developed over the past decade.
See this for a related discussion:
http://digg.com/world_news/India_deploys_supersonic_BrahMos_anti-ship_cruise_missile - scott1, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Please don't make stupid comments like that on digg.
- scsikool, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3It was originally built by General Dynamics in Pomona, Ca.
- flipmeat, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3The 7.62 mm caliber Minigun (as seen in Predator, Terminator 2) is more vehicle-sized. If you want one that tracks and engages missiles, you'll probably have to hang out on makezine.com for a bit.
- stonage, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Those of us in the industry know this better as Sea-Whiz (from CIWS I presume).
- jasonprussell, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Nice video here: http://tri.army.mil/LC/CS/csa/phalanx.mpg
- 0x2a, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Only 20mm rounds? No problem for your ipod if you are using this case
http://www.digg.com/mods/Bulletproof_iPod_Case_2
[yes, I'm just kidding] - shortcircuit13, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Metal Storm works on an entirely different principle, which has produced burst fire rates of 1 million rounds per second.
Metal Storm technology has no moving parts, instead using electrode-triggered firing caps to sequentially fire stacked bullets.
A minigun fires a single mechanically-activated (firing pin) bullet through a single barrel at any given time. - homercaholic18, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I thought they were going to be removing all of these and replacing them with a varient of the SM-2 for anti-missle defense?
The guy is spectacular though, it doesnt shoot down the missle as much as it throws a metric assload of lead in its direction in hopes that the missle hits it and disentigrates. By the time its capable of being used though your head better be between your legs because that missle is already damn close. - nogami, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Here's one with sound showing the ammo moving through the loader system, then the cannon vaporizing a building of some sort that it's pointed at.
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/1148/awsome_fire_power/
(It's not a Navy CIWS, but it's the same cannon in a different application, probably for a fighter jet or something)
N. - gypsyjoe, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2No it's not. Metal Storm seems no nearer market readiness than it did years ago.
- AETAaAS, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2RPharazon, thats from Ace Combat. My prize please. ;)
Theres a typo in the title; "Anti Ship Missile Defense System" shouldnt it read "Anti Missile Ship Defense System"?
Unless of course; a missle can carry a weapon to defend it against entire ships. - ArcaneDevice, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2first of all this as others have said is old. Which would have been okay if the article gave you some cool photos or video of it in action like this:
http://wrc.navair-rdte.navy.mil/warfighter_enc/weapons/shiplnch/Guns/ciws.htm
It's a totally useless story unless you are Digging the sales price. You can get cooler stuff by just dropping it in Google. - d3m3, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Its probably because they're being installed on more ships than the few carriers that they are on. I can't imagine taking down an artillery shell, thats just unbelievably cool.
- dclowd9901, on 10/12/2007, -6/+8"When did it become a requirement to only submit stories about new technology?"
When Digg became a "news-aggregate" website.
Though, admittedly, I've submitted my fair share of stories that are not necessarily "newsy." - asspants, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2it sounds like a really loud long fart when they go off.
- atroph, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2The protection is a 4" red line, and a bell. You are on your own after that. During test firing, a person is next to the mount with communications to the folks inside
- tainedhero, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Woah, just like BF 2
- furiouszebra, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2"The Sum of All Fears"
And the Phalanx sure did a great job shooting down Russian missiles! - mbateman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I digging this, but only because ANYTHING that can fire 4000 rounds of 20mm ammo per minute deserves a digg!. However, in the future, articles about the Phalanx gun MUST include video. =)
Thanks to ArcaneDevice for posting some video. - bayonetblaha, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I disagree that hundreds of missiles are the most likely case. Consider the most prominent example in the Falklands... Argentina used two Exocets. Even Korea probably doesn't have that many missiles around.
- Urusai, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I was in a carrier in the Navy, and the CIWS (Sea-Whiz) was mounted not far above my compartment. It sounded like a saw ripping through sheet metal when they fired it (short bursts).
- skubiszm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Does anyone remember what movie you saw these in?
- ChessPoker, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2"any system purpose-built as a anti-aircraft system could NOT be used aiganst personnell , ground or surface vehicles"
This is the first I've heard of that. What is the reason? - cawpin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Under Siege when they shoot down the investigating fighter.
- kjinx, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2A buddy of mine has one of these on his ship. No one is allowed anywhere on deck when they fire it (just in case :-)
- OBKenobi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2[quote]4500 20mm rounds will reduce a person to a nice fine mist...[/quote]
About the first five 20mm rounds will do that. Ever see the Apache video from Iraq?
(Yes, I know the Apache's gun uses 30mm rounds) - omenmedia, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Did anyone else read this heading as "the Phallus gun"? Oh well, kinda the same thing.
- atroph, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Umm at the time they were steaming around not at general quarters. The 49 was their long range radar and it is an air seach one at that. The CIWS was probably in the "stowed" position. I can't think of a time we had the thing in standby ready to go per se. Albeit I didn't maintain the mounts, I stood watch next to the CIWS room. The whole this with AEGIS is early detection and imformation dissemination. Identify the turd before it is in range to engage you. If a foe is near then fire up the mounts to eliminate the targets. Basically if no threat is near no need to have the mounts in perate mode. Finally the combat systems doctrine has change a lot since then.
- katzebnt, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1CIWS and AEGIS are both garbage...very *expensive* garbage. I've been to more than a few firings of CIWS and dozens of exercises involving AEGIS and neither have performed well. CIWS could successfully track and shoot down a slow flying drone only after it got close enough for the shrapnel to slam against the side of both my boats. Imagine if that was a missile full of self-oxidizing fuel. Anything faster than a drone and it just tracks back and forth, buzzing and humming and trying to get a lock. Sad. AEGIS is the brainchild of some wacked out engineers from waaayyy back. Don't beleive the recruiting commercials, its just a big moneypit maintaned by mongrel FC's. My AN/SPS-49 however is a functioning, reliable piece of gear that never fails, despite being old and clunky and lacking a timeslot.
- Gonzolo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Saw a video of this some time back, when it fires it's like one continuous booming noise. The radar assisted tracking is really cool too, it's like watching someone doing the robot dance with a 10 barrel gatling gun. I think the clip I saw was on the History Channel.
Truly Insane! - furiouszebra, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"Yes but a few managed to slip in"
Yes, that was my point. They almost completely destroyed an aircraft carrier. - BIllyBobFett, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Yeah, there are all kinds of instances of that. I mean, fighter planes' guns are designed for air-to-air, but they have shot ground targets with them since WWI.
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