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- smartretard, on 10/12/2007, -3/+79Generally speaking, the phone would be legally the parents' property, correct? So what is stopping the parents themselves from claiming invasion of privacy and opening a whole new can of worms for the administration?
- Paktu, on 10/12/2007, -6/+59I think this is a great policy. In fact, I like it so much that I think it should apply to teachers and administrators as well. After all, it's important that make sure people who spend that much time around these students are not involved with, say, drugs or pedophilia.
- Linkage155, on 10/12/2007, -4/+54>>thats why i liek homeschooling..
>>chris
I can see it's doing you lots of good, keep up the good work! - userundefine, on 10/12/2007, -1/+50Students still are entitled to their constitutional rights even on school grounds, cf. Tinker v Des Moines 1969. I hope someone takes these Gestapo school officials to court and puts them in their goddamn place.
Moreover, I hope the students have the stones to tell the administrators to ***** off. - smurfmaster, on 10/12/2007, -2/+45The real question is, how the ***** can this be compliant with federal law and the constitution? Freedom and privacy is slowly going down the drain the US.
- TheIguana, on 10/12/2007, -1/+31Schools have a history of not giving a ***** about civil liberties. The way they see it, any freedom you give a kid will be abused and used in some fashion to either a) do damage to the school b) put the school in some position of liability or c) risk the safety of them or others on School property. Essentially they consider liberties to be a liability.
Iggy - omniwired, on 10/12/2007, -0/+28is time to start encrypt everything
- jprater, on 10/12/2007, -0/+25don't school administrators have better things to worry about....
...like how to teach evolution or something. - johndi, on 10/12/2007, -1/+26Use your keypad lock with a PIN code. It will frustrate the bastards to no end.
- sedition, on 10/12/2007, -2/+27In Soviet Nebraska... ah. forget it. :)
- shaolinpunks, on 10/12/2007, -5/+29holy god!
- superal1394, on 10/12/2007, -0/+23to userundefine: Oh its fun to see the colors change in a teachers face when you plead the 5th.
- ninjagamer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+22After reading through the entire comments, I have seen 3 good solutions,
1: decline search (worth a shot)
2: Password protect your electornic devices to the best of your abilitiy.
3: Remove batery if one must hand it over. - vwaniel, on 10/12/2007, -2/+23Until the administration claimed that the policy was really in place to stop terrorism...then no one could question it.
- eargon, on 10/12/2007, -2/+22I can say no to a cop but not a teacher?
odd - canadian0, on 10/12/2007, -3/+22Slowly? I think it is eroding at a rate that is anything but slow.
- EAMUS1CATULI, on 10/12/2007, -1/+20By the looks of this, im pretty sure its a very nice place to live , i dont think they have drug dealers in this community.
http://money.cnn.com/best/bplive/snapshots/48020.html - Linkage155, on 10/12/2007, -1/+19Huh.. No? Do these schools really think we're dumb enough to use an e-mail they have acess to?
- MichaelStanton, on 10/12/2007, -1/+19As a current student at the high school in question, I find this fantastic. Shortly after the article was published in the newspaper 'round here, the principal sent out an e-mail covering his ass, claiming that it was blown out of proportion. The article was picked up by local news, who also interviewed him, and generally made him look terrible. Now, it's spreading across the internet getting people angry. Good times.
- holmes101, on 10/12/2007, -0/+18@borninda818
I agree 100%. Principals are getting absolutely idiotic. I've had a friend get suspended for throwing a snowball at a bus. The security guards are beccoming the same way. For example, at my school we have a closed campus and the security guards are supposed to enforce that. Last time I came back from subway and the security guard cought me, he asked me if I wanted a ride to class in his golf cart (which brings me to how my school completely missuses their budget and then complains its too low) - Merlyn383, on 10/12/2007, -0/+17@borninda818/holmes101
I'm with you both. When I was a senior (6 years ago) the principle decided that goths were attention grabbers who sole reason for being goth was to make people look at them, thus distracting your average student from paying full attention to their classes. So, she pulls these 6 goths into her office one day and tells them to change their clothes immediately or they will be suspended and since they didn't exactly bring a spare outfit to school, they all got suspended.
She then decided that anyone who wore goth attire in the future would immediately be suspended upon entering the school. Now that was kinda crazy, but the big deal was that she defined "goth attire" as being a black shirt and black pants/skirt. Three days later 500+ of us (out of 1100ish) walked into school wearing black on black and waved to her as we walked past her. She dropped that policy by the end of the day. - zweben, on 10/12/2007, -8/+25Well, even if it is their property, it's not their conversations that are being evesdropped on, so I don't see how they could say that *their* privacy was being invaded, but there is sure as hell a reason for the students to be upset.
- titlesaysitall, on 10/12/2007, -0/+16">>Do your AIM buddies happen to be your tutors?
i dont use aim..."
from your user profile----AIM/Yahoo/MSN/ICQ/gTalk: aim:blue765d
sure, it must be MSN right? - Scooley01, on 10/12/2007, -1/+17I agree with putting a password on it...Sure, it's within the school's rights to confiscate the cell phone itself, but if they somehow get past the password without your permission, they are breaking the law.
- titlesaysitall, on 10/12/2007, -3/+19Do your AIM buddies happen to be your tutors?
- titlesaysitall, on 10/12/2007, -1/+16Most schools now allow cell phones due to the Columbine incedent so a student may call for help.
- deadbaby, on 10/12/2007, -1/+16If they want to take it this far why not just go for chastity belts and bi-weekly substance abuse tests? Maybe GPS tracking devices?
- borninda818, on 10/12/2007, -1/+16i think homeschool is ok untill high school but all kids should go to high school. Not just for the broad education but for the social development and other things. For instance, many people develop life long skills and hobbies because of things they learned from friends in high school
- aximbigfan, on 10/12/2007, -2/+17you mean you havent already?
- borninda818, on 10/12/2007, -3/+18wont work in a high school...theyll just threaten to suspen or expel. Pricipals are slowly going insane. For instance, a bunch of kids in my school got suspended for simply being in the same hallway that a fight took place. They were supose to immediately went to the admin and told but didn't, therefore got suspended. Rules are getting gayer every school year
- 1911wolf, on 10/12/2007, -0/+14The school admin can have my foot in his ass instead. If I buy my kid a cell phone, I reserve sole overriding acces to it not him. If he has a problem with that, I invite him to come over after he's bought me a new shoe.
- D3koy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+15This is dumb. Lots of kids who don't do drugs have things that could be construed as " drug paraphernalia" like a straight A student having drinking straws...The could use this zip-lock bag that their tuna sandwich came in with the straw to make a bong....LAME...the bottom line is kids dumb enough to do drugs at school or bring them with them to school could be caught any number of other ways, leave cell phones out of this.... This is a total waste of tax-payers money....But all my files are hidden none the less and are encrypted!...and I don't do drugs...........
- jakenovak, on 10/12/2007, -1/+15That's personal property, technically. There are legal precedents for them taking them, however unlawful search by unauthorized persons can be taken into account here; hacking laws could actually apply in these cases.
I doubt there will ever be a court case, but the policy would be shot down. - Celeron, on 10/12/2007, -4/+17Next thing you will know teachers will want access inside the underwears of their male students.
- daughtershade, on 10/12/2007, -2/+15A lot of schools don't allow cell phones during school hours to prevent the same problems. Why don't they adopt a policy like that instead of trampling on the students and their parents rights?
- holmes101, on 10/12/2007, -0/+13dude, i hereby give you permision to hack your school network to leave your admin a message.
- KevinJ, on 10/12/2007, -2/+14Why dont schools start worrying about actually teaching kids relevant things(like computers) rather than this crap?
- Dabellah, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13Irrelevant to the fact it is THEIR devices that are under the investigation if this were to pull through. They could be sharing with their kids (very rare but I have actually been witness to a couple of these cases).
- DROWE859, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13Haha, Truecrypt for your cell phone.
- bmson, on 10/12/2007, -2/+14I'm glad I live in a free country
- npsken, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13My school allows cell phones but they put up a cell phone jammer. They only work at the library (really nice place to recieve and make calls, huh?)
- borninda818, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12strip search?
- Shinta, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12We know what the Soviet Union and KGB are dude.
- ccanni1028, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12It's not a machine gun, it's a long-barreled rifle!
- DROWE859, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12Good argument, but I believe that a constitutional right to property and privacy outweigh a school's code of conduct.
If I ran a school, I could place it in my code of conduct that every student was to give me a dollar, or be smacked. But that doesn't give me the right to take their dollar, or smack them when they don't. - ElectroBot, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10These are the people that are supposed to be teaching us about life.
We know more about technology then they ever will and we don't try to abuse people's rights. We should be teaching them. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10I guarentee you have the muscle mass of a small child and not nearly the balls to say that to anyone of authority.
- hackwrench, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10MasterChi, did you go to a U.S. public school? Private schools, as not a part of the government have looser rules to operate under.
- chumbermonkey, on 10/12/2007, -5/+14In Nebraska, schools can legally search anything.
- Linkage155, on 10/12/2007, -3/+12Just one more spot to store drugs.. or a MachineGun..?
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