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- whiskeyclone, on 10/12/2007, -1/+16I bid on a G4 Apple Cube on ebay a after Christmas - legit seller with some 2400 feed back in the 99.9% positive area. I lost out because it went for 30 more than I was willing to pay. I got an email saying that I've been accepted for a second chance to buy at that price, that I should reply to the email for further detail.
Thing is, I'm not stupid. I could tell right off the bat this was fake. I got in touch with the seller and let him know what was going on, and sent messages via ebay to everyone who bidded on the item to warn them (turns out they had all had the same offer), and got in touch with eBay's scam department (who were useless).
The thing is, there was nothing that ebay could do really - this wasn't an ebay member, just someone looking at bid list, and getting hold of member's email addresses.
I got bored so I baited the scammer, asking for details on what to do. They wanted a wire transfer for the full amount plus shipping to their bank. I tried to trace the email, but it was spoofed and came through a redirect. I send an email to the redirecter to tell them to check their logs and ban emails from that IP (which they won't) and phoned the bank who said they couldn't do anything unless I actually wired the money and filed a complant. They are pretty much untouchable and if one person a day falls for it, they make 500 easy.
Tempted to drop out of Uni and start scamming.
oh and [obligatory] "In Soviet Russia, eBay scams you!" [/obligatory] - SergeAx, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10There's a notorious Russian joke about it:
Fyodor Dostoevsky meets Rodyon Raskolnikov:
-- What a business, Rodya, to kill an old woman for 20 kopecks?!
-- Well, Fedya, you better mind it: 5 grannies -- rouble! - mycatsboots, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11In Soviet Russia, Russians do you.
- energyblue, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8$5 x customers = many $
- cathode, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Probably the results of phishing. I think we'd be shocked at the success rate they have...
- CoolWind, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7They shut down a Russian website? BIG DEAL. How tough is it to open a new website?
They didn't stop the perpetrators from selling their stolen data in other venues.
And they don't have a clue as to how many accounts have been stolen or who they belong to or how they get stolen.
This is eBay propaganda of the worst kind. They are trying to spin a very serious problem into a victory for them. Give me a break! - EmmEff, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Russians! Is there anything they can't do?
- DoubtfulSalmon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I think that a substantial proportion of people here will not be in the slightest bit surprised at the stupidity of the average computer end-user!
- supergwiz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2if you RTFA you would know that thy get them by trojans and automatation as well. I came across a machine was infected with such a trojan.... It was a pretty involved proccess but i'm sure they still get many victims because of the large number of unprotected winTels out there. If the trojan cold not steal the ebay login it would hijacked IE to steal webbased email login/password then scan the inbox for the related ebay username. Then they would change the password using ebays "forgot password" functionailty to hijack the login. Presumably they sit on the account. Inactivity of both accounts would prompt them to post a big-ticket scam sales.
- TiggerAK, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3No. There isn't. :)
- Minos, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2If you read the article, it says that the accounts ranged from 5$ to 25$. They probably sold accounts with a lot of positive feedback for more. And seeing as most people on ebay have at least some feedback, I can assume that most accounts sold for more than 5$.
And it's interesting how the domain owners are American. Filtering the money through Russia for added security, most likely. They're probably long gone by now. - Nick_Circosta, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1shut them down, and lock them up, these are those scammers who sent those emails to request the account so they can use yoru good feedback to win more scamms
- SheerGold, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Thunders said: "Ebay accounts can still be bought with ranging feedback from 10-50$ sometimes with paypal info too;-)"
I want to do some research on this.
Thunders please advise me where I can find "Ebay accounts for sale"
paul@abdc.fsworld.co.uk - Thunders, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Ebay accounts can still be bought with ranging feedback from 10-50$ sometimes with paypal info too;-)
- shuffle, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2Money must mean a whole lot more to these people than us... $5? Risk going to jail for $5?
- imtigger2, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2$5 is a great deal! They were charging $10 last week. Bastards.
- a99tandem, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2LOLOLOLOL@ SergeAX ^^^^
- Elranzer, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1"Russians! Is there anything they can't do?"
Win the Cold War?? - freakyrunnerguy, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0Wow. Who ever whould have thought people would have stopped so slow to selling ebay accouts for $5
- rouge606, on 10/12/2007, -10/+2This is why I stay with dig
- beoswulf, on 10/12/2007, -10/+0This guy should have fought it. I always liked the analogy that a WIFI access point is equivalent to owning undeveloped wilderness property.
Where I live, if you own land that's undeveloped and in the countryside you are obligated to have "No trespassing" signs posted. Every couple yards you want to have a brightly colored sign on a tree, or post that says your name usually and "No Trespassing" or "No Hunting" if you want to be specific. Otherwise uninvited people can defend entering your private property while hiking, hunting or offroading because they were not aware you didn't want them there or that the land was even privately owned. But there are plenty of landowners that don't have signs posted because they don't mind people using their property.
It should be the same with WIFI access points. Every router has even the most basic encryption available, most usually have the option to turn off the SSID broadcast as well. If your access point is not encrypted, or if it's not named NOTFORPUBLICUSE or MEONLY then how is a person suppose to know you didn't leave your Internet access point open for the public. With this analogy, breaking encryption to use a WIFI access point is still illegal. Lots of people enjoy sharing their WIFI access points (even if it is against their ISP's TOS) I would have fought this charge but I guess this guy didn't want to deal with it. - beoswulf, on 10/12/2007, -10/+0sorry wrong board digg me down
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