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- SHv2, on 11/17/2008, -5/+184up up down down left right left right b a start
- inactive, on 11/16/2008, -10/+125This will be fun to crack.
- mst3kcrow, on 11/17/2008, -0/+61That's amazing! I've got the same combination on my luggage!
- srturner47, on 11/16/2008, -1/+47How did they keep this thin enough to do that? Amazing.
- rac1234, on 11/17/2008, -0/+41Lots of places are already doing this with a device external to the card. The innovation here seems to be integrating it onto the card itself so you don't have to carry around an additional gadget. Seems like a good idea to me.
- xombi242, on 11/16/2008, -0/+33Kinda cool. It's like that PayPal Security gadget
- savocado, on 11/17/2008, -1/+29Source: Daily Mail.
To all non-UK diggers: DM is a tabloid with celebrity gossip and sh*t like that. Not really a credible source.
EDIT: The best source is VISA's press centre:
http://www.visaeurope.com/pressandmedia/newsreleas ... and
http://www.visaeurope.com/pressandmedia/newsreleas ... - HouseofEl, on 11/17/2008, -3/+27No one said it wasn't possible to crack it. It will make it much more of a pain in the ass. The good thing here is that they are trying. If this is going to be so fun to crack, why don't you try working up a system that isn't.
- IndigoMoss, on 11/17/2008, -6/+29No doubt randomly generated with an algorithm, which can be hacked. Give it time.
- Murdats, on 11/17/2008, -0/+20I have no doubt this has large security holes, but I also imagine that it is still much more secure then the number being printed right there on the card and a permanent code being entered directly into what may be a scam site.
it means now having either the card physically or details of the card does not automatically mean an empty bank account as someone who has stolen the card can not use it online and someone who has got the details can use it once.
there is a chance that the card could be cracked as such but there is now less chance of that and the worst case scenario you are in the same position you would be now anyway. - cuoops, on 11/17/2008, -0/+16source with a couple of videos - http://www.visaeurope.com/pressandmedia/newsreleas ...
- Micrll, on 11/17/2008, -0/+13While I think this is a good idea I am really skeptical on the current feasibleness of it. They managed to cram a Screen, keypad, circuity and a battery into a standard size credit card? While not impossible, I would bet this would be expensive. Also how long will the battery last? Additionally, how much wear will the thing take before it breaks. I have seen some merchants really grip the cards hard when they swipe them?
EDIT: I stand corrected, the poster above me found the actual press release with a promotional video showing it. And the battery lasts for 3 years. - jebus123, on 11/17/2008, -0/+12I can just imagine it going crack! in my wallet when I sit down.
- iofthestorm, on 11/17/2008, -0/+9I imagine this will work like RSA SecurID dongles. For similar reasons, it won't be (usefully) hackable. Look up how they work to see why.
- AFelsinger, on 11/16/2008, -0/+8nice idea
- username7410, on 11/17/2008, -0/+8Witchcraft
- lochness, on 11/17/2008, -2/+10This was invented in Australia and sold to Visa (among others)
GO AUSSIES !!! - Tanktunker, on 11/17/2008, -0/+7to enter the pin number.
RTFA. - Jektal, on 11/17/2008, -0/+7How many people watch you shop online?
- ActionJohnny, on 11/17/2008, -0/+7Is that the melody to funkytown?
- keyme, on 11/17/2008, -0/+7Yeah, but most credit card fraud isn't done by stealing cards. It's usually done by just photographing them. If the key will be truly random on every card, it won't be possible to crack it just by looking at a picture.
- Vich, on 11/17/2008, -7/+14What the Hell am I looking at?! When does this happen in the movie?!
Now! You're looking at "now," sir. Everything that happens now is happening "now."
What happened to "then?"
We passed it.
When?
Just now. We're at now "now."
Go back to "then."
When?
Now.
Now?!
Now!
I can't.
Why?
We missed it.
When?
Just now. - ekula, on 11/17/2008, -0/+5Ceiling Cat is watching you shop online.
- craeyon, on 11/17/2008, -1/+6buts its more secure
what would you like loose:
a.) you entire bank balance
or
b.) couple seconds of your time? - Dysl3xicDog, on 11/17/2008, -1/+6cocaine, just ask "The Lohan".
- hyAxis, on 11/17/2008, -0/+5Steve Jobs.
- tonberryqueen, on 11/17/2008, -0/+5I would hope that the person would have had the sense to cancel the card by the time the thief had gone through enough numbers to find their credit card PIN.
- elislider, on 11/17/2008, -1/+6i like the way you compared it to paypal security even though paypal security is a ***** joke
- TunaFishGangsta, on 11/17/2008, -0/+5Just because you hack/crack/phreak something doesn't mean you are going to steal someone's data. Some people just want to know how things work and because of them we keep striving for something that is just a little more secure.
So I applaud the cc companies and the reverse engineers. - aflaks, on 11/17/2008, -0/+4Every luggage joke I ever hear leads me to that in one way or another.
- eejbm, on 11/17/2008, -1/+5You better get it looked at then.
- HiddenForce, on 11/17/2008, -2/+6In other news...
New Digg, post, generates random extraneous, commas. - silent7seven, on 11/17/2008, -0/+4Baby foreskins.
- eejbm, on 11/17/2008, -0/+4yeah! 3 advancements in 30 years is moving a little fast eh?
- hillkiwi, on 11/17/2008, -0/+4I would think getting the battery thin enough would be the hard part. What happens when the battery runs out?
- yugiohdan6, on 11/17/2008, -0/+3YouTube videos
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGkdCP3px24
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dT6JSU123Lo - Murdats, on 11/17/2008, -0/+3eh mainstream media hails everything as either being the magic bullet we are all waiting for or the herald of destruction of humanity, and its always just around the corner.
- abadjay, on 11/17/2008, -0/+3i wonder how well this will hold up when you get launched in a pool by your ***** friends at some drunk summer party. probably about as well as your cell phone.
- megablue, on 11/17/2008, -1/+4The seed is not random after all...
- viper001, on 11/17/2008, -0/+3A B A C A B B
Try guessing what this code is ;) - Kokichi, on 11/17/2008, -0/+3everyone still knows that pressing that on the keyboard makes all comments be shown, right?
- zeb3dee, on 11/17/2008, -0/+3I have seen this type of technology before for single sign on. The technology seems to work for that but I worry that the numbers of my pin will rub off so people will be able to reduce the amount of numbers used in my pin from 10 to 4.
- kjax82, on 11/17/2008, -0/+3Blood code, MK for sega, baby!
- merreborn, on 11/17/2008, -0/+3For the record, those devices were in use years before PayPal started offering them to customers.
- inactive, on 11/17/2008, -0/+3To Visa:
Give TWiT more money please.
KTHXBYE - kotatsu, on 11/17/2008, -2/+5That's an understatement. The Daily Hail is not any old tabloid, it's a far right wing racist rag which delights in stirring up it's ultra conservative 'readers' to demand anything they disapprove of be banned. This usually means anyone foreign but they have a particular hatred for movies and video games too.
- inactive, on 11/17/2008, -0/+3Against my ass and in my wallet I'd give that thing about 3 days, if not 3 hours. And I don't weigh THAT much, either...Well, for a computer-geek.
- wild, on 11/17/2008, -0/+3Why guess when I know it is the Mortal Kombat blood code?
- betheturtle, on 11/17/2008, -1/+4But how do you make money?
Merchandising! - ohreilly, on 11/17/2008, -0/+2You've forgotten that the Mail covers the important issues facing the UK, such as
what causes cancer (everything),
what reduces the risk of cancer (most things),
the celebration when house prices rise a bit,
the crisis that is when house prices drop a bit,
the European Union doing something harmless but it's ACTUALLY a master plan to remove antiquated measurements or "banning curved produce", according to them
the same for the British government, when they actually have a reasonably good idea
how "immigrants" get multi million pound houses off the government
how to win a used Toyota Prius that was once one of the staff's company cars
how cheap the Daily Mail is (when it's just gone up 5p) compared to the Express (a newspaper that is aimed at the same insane readership, and covers many of the same "issues", with more Diana) -
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