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- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12Privacy is over. Why? Becuase privacy is for terrorists, pedophiles and godless heathens and those who support them.
Seriously, trying ot even have a privacy discussion with the average person is so ***** _futile_. It's like they never had a god damned civics class in their LIFE. - dinu, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7The bad thing is the countries like UK have passed laws that force you to give up your keys on request. Failure to so will get you two years in jail.
- starmanjones, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8i'm hoping for a stern backlash... once we loose the neoCONs and guidlines that include no-end-run rules for the next would be napolean/president.
- Daisuke, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Hey, privacy isn't over quite yet - though I see your point. You just have to go about things differently if you wish to keep it nowadays. If you'd like to keep your privacy, there's many things you can still do. Run a Tor node, or i2p, or Freenet, donate to the EFF or maybe the ACLU, write privacy-enhancing code or programs, or maybe just be an activist in the normal sense. You can regain your privacy, but it will take alot of work.
- RichPowers, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7One word: Tor. People need to run more Tor nodes if the network ever hopes to keep up with its growing user base. There are also free, open-source encryption programs out there.
But it all comes down to basics: don't do anything stupid with your personal information. Be discrete with what websites you sign up with...or what crap you post on MySpace or your blog or whatever. - goffy59, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5The new world order was born sep. 11th!
- dinu, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Unfortunately you are true. With the decreasing standards in education and civic and political culture there will be a huge backlash against individual freedoms. It has already started and the vast majority does not realize it or give a damn.
- tonyspencer, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5I'm not sure that the comment in the article about Big Brother being silly in the US or Europe is that correct. We have a media (mainstream and Hollywood) that not only manipulates the "news", but changes history to suit themselves (ie Saddam was good when at war with Iran, but bad when we wanted his oil and almost every Hollywood movie distorts history). Our personal freedoms have been eroded by The Patriot Act and UK legislation.
In the UK there are over 800,000 CCTV cameras, everywhere from city centres, to buses, stations, trains, airports, taxis, shops, malls, companies, public buildings. There are cameras to catch you speeding, to apply the London congestion charge, to catch you going through a red light, and even to catch parking violations. Data mining is used to further follow you. ISPs have to keep records, and supply all your emails, traffic etc to police or intelligence services on demand, and as dinu said, if you use encryption, you have to hand over your keys or it's 2 years in chokey.
We have politicians now actively, and often illegally, acting as dictators, and bypassing the democratic processes. There is more rigging of elections. And we're talking the US and UK here, not a banana republic. Plus of course if we don't agree with everything they say, then we are their enemies.
We have an Inner and Outer Party system, although these are based more on economics and corporations rather than political ideology, and the Proles are the rest of us.
So we have newspeak, doublethink, thoughtcrime, prolefeed, and Thought Police already. With the US/UK we have Oceania, and dissenting voices in Europe are part of nasty Eurasia...
Interestingly:
1+9+8+4 = 22
22+1984 = 2006... - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3who said the "war" is over? The worst thing we can do, is to give up fighting for freedom.
- Lazerbeak, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3the really silly thing about the UK passing a law to forcing people to give up keys to private data on demand by the police, is... real criminals will refuse to give up the keys , since the maxium sentence for refusing probably less, than the sentence they will get if the data their hiding is read. while non criminals will just have to cave in, this makes the law point less.
- iSEPIC, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I think the submitter got it wrong, the Battle is over, but the war wages on. Battle < War
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2"The war for privacy may be lost..."
Trust me, the war for privacy hasn't even started yet. - TRScheel, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Sp1k3d - "Oh, but no it was Al Qaeda that brought down the Twin Towers, *****! Why does the video where Osama is supposedly claiming responsibility look extremely fake (ie: he is shorter, fatter, and right-handed in the video)?
Why did Bush say "Let us not believe these outlandish conspiracy theories" months before anything was written or filmed about a conspiracy.
Your own government murdered 3,000 people, destroyed a city, killed your economy, all to start a continous war on anything they please, including Islam. You'd think there'd be some kind of uprising, but instead everyone obeys the words of their leader. Sounds like the "New World Order" began long before September 11th if people are this brainwashed."
How in God's name do people believe this BS? Are you of the same mindset that we never landed on the Moon? The concentration camps didnt exist? Elvis lives? Cmon, seriously... the rest of the world can get trains bombed, suicide bombers, and AK-47's for $25 a pop... but when the US gets a few planes hijacked and rammed into various buildings, its a conspiracy to start the war on terrorism. Ya, cuz you know, the whole world was hopped up on holding hands with terrorists before 9/11.
I could build a bomb and take it onto a plane and the airports would let me walk right through... you know what it is? A DELL LAPTOP. FFS, no security to date is good enough to stop any group of people from doing whatever the hell they want with our aircraft if they devise a strong plan. - Sp1k3d, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0But you will always have some freedom if you fight for it, there is aways Freenet and various encryption schemes that exist today which cannot be broken. I am usually pessimistic about this kind of stuff but the technology ensures us we will win, we just need to fight and not give up.
- Sp1k3d, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1Oh, but no it was Al Qaeda that brought down the Twin Towers, *****! Why does the video where Osama is supposedly claiming responsibility look extremely fake (ie: he is shorter, fatter, and right-handed in the video)?
Why did Bush say "Let us not believe these outlandish conspiracy theories" months before anything was written or filmed about a conspiracy.
Your own government murdered 3,000 people, destroyed a city, killed your economy, all to start a continous war on anything they please, including Islam. You'd think there'd be some kind of uprising, but instead everyone obeys the words of their leader. Sounds like the "New World Order" began long before September 11th if people are this brainwashed. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1For *****'s sake, do NOT donate to the ACLU! When was the last time you saw the ACLU step in on a copyright/intellectual/p2p/free speech issue other than the rare "save the bloggers" type thing? And the EFF isn't always much better. But if you're going to dnate to either of those, make it the EFF.
I don't have anything against the ACLU, but if you're going to throw your money at a problem, make sure the organization you're donating to actually has a history of actively supporting that problem! - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -7/+1I dont' recall is tor traffic encrypted? If not, you could find yourself in serious trouble. There has been precedent for a carrier (in a home end-user situation) being held accountable for transmission of data in situations like this. So you better hope the total strangers going through your tor node aren't accessing anythign questionable or illegal.
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