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- warnipples, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3"Stop ***** with the affairs of other people, democratic countries DO NOT hold any sort of moral high ground at all."
im sorry but thats *****!
we do, and should encourage the free exchange of information and ideas. - phytonix, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2One more thing...
Chinese people can visit most of the sites on the internet. Things like cult Falun Dafa, several big porn sites, some websites contain sensitive political contents like Tian'anmen event will have problem to access from China.
However, all these filtering does NOT affect much regarding the free of information. People in China can still visit sites like CNN, washington post, White House, Yahoo News and so on and on.
And only very few Chinese people, should be well under 1% of the population will be really interested in searching and viewing those sensitive contents, if we do not talk about porn. So the whole filtering actually does not affects most Chinese people.
And maybe you do not understand, many Asian countries have a tradition to put the interest of the country/society/group before individuals. There is no right or wrong about this. Just respect other people's political point of view.
People don't respect each other's belief, so we have wars, muslim hates christian, christian hates muslim, 9-1-1, muhammed cartoon..... - spect3r, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Canada has no military BUT WE HAVE A LARGE CONCENTRATION OF NERDS.
- mtyoung, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I hope it works. I've tried to think of a way to accomplish the same thing.
My thoughts were to provide a proxy search capability that could be supplied as a simple plug-in to any site willing to help out with their bandwidth. If enough sites did this, then the Chinese government (or whoever) would have too large a list of sites to block.
The digital signature of the plug-in would have to change constantly to avoid blocking.
Anyway, I haven't figured it out, but would like to pass along the idea in the hope that someone else can run with it. - manoftheisland, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1denjira
u got him by 3 minutes... lol
hey canada did something right... way to go guys... good luck - cyberbeing, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1This is good news, I really hope they are successful. Internet censorship is a major issue in China forcing people like bloggers to use proxies and other methods and sometimes even post coded to avoid the censors. The government in china is really cutting them off from the rest of the world.
- meiguoren, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1phytonix you are JingJing or ChaCha. CNN, BBC, Wikipedia, Technorati. Digg etc. etc. etc. are all down in China. Try searching Tiananmen in China you get nothing about 64 (one of the saddest and proudest moments in human history
http://www.christusrex.org/www1/sdc/tank-1.jpg
He may not have brought democracy and human rights to China but he helped change the whole rest of the world).
China is not free. And they won't be free until the CCP goes at every level. If you think otherwise just search any of the following names：
Wang Xiaoning, Jiang Lijun, Shi Tao, Sun Xiaodi, Qi Zhiyong, Wu Hao, Ren Zhiyuan, Zhao Changqing, Li Yuanlong, Zheng Yichun, Jiang Lijun, Yan Jun, Yang Zili, Xu Wei, Jin Haike, Zhang Honghai, Zhang Shengqi, Liu Fenggang, Kong Youping, Lee Hyo-lee, Zhao Yan, Zhang Lin, Gao Qinrong, Ma Yalian, Yang Jianlim, Ouyang Yi, Zhao Yan, Li Zhi, Ching Cheong, Yu Huafeng, Li Minying, Nurmuhemmet Yasin, Lin Daixian, Sun Xiaodi, Cai Zhuohua, Han Dingxian(priest), James Su Zhimin (priest), Francis An Shuxin(priest), Chen Guangcheng, Yang Maodong, (out of jail but restricted - Gao Zhisheng(lawyer in hiding), Liu Shizun, Zhu Zhengming, Huang Qi, Liu Di, Du Daobin)
Not one of these people would be in jail in any free country in the world.
Please everyone set up a proxy and spread the word. You can help. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2GO CANADA
- jayf, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I'm normally in favor of respecting national borders and letting each nation manage itself, even if the nation is run by a despot, but in this case its the Chinese themselves who are trying change things and Canadians are only enabling them. Giving the pro-democratic Chinese people a helping hand in securing their unrestricted communications is extremely noble and makes me proud I am Canadian.
If there are enough people to use this it means there is a strong will to move towards democracy. If nobody uses it then it means people love their fearless leader and have no desire for change. In any case it will be the Chinese who choose what happens.
Unless that is Yahoo comes out with some scheme to bring this all to an end and expose even more dissidents. - nnikba, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Internet in China is just a taste of Internet,
30% of the web is down. and for some weird reasons, sometime, it's some personal website, not any relation with politic or nudity. almost ALL the blogs are down, all wikipedia...
The answer from your browser is just "too long to respond", let you think you're wrong...
If Canadian can help! - Denjira, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1http://digg.com/security/Canada_vs_China_firewall
Beat you to it =P
But i'm not an evil "DUPE" guy.. cool for getting it up ;) - Monosyllabic, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1
For example, porn is illegal in China. Although most porn sites are not banned in China, some are. I don't see the good of this software trying to help people see porn?
How can you not see the good in helping people see porn? - towca, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1There is no such thing as "truth" in the chinese media. I think we all know that. I was talking to a friend of mine (who's from Hong Kong btw) and he said when he told a couple of people from mainland china about how bad the bird flu was, they responded "no way". I think they could use some freedom of information there. Even if it's not for porn and not current world situation.
Oh and this has nothing to do with communism because it does have it's pluses. I mean, if it was communism, a idiot like bush would never be president now would he? Surely not for a second time. - gscharf, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Ya gotta love those canucks.
- DuneAdx, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Funny how many "Just find a proxy on IRC" comments there are. If they could get on IRC, there probably wouldn't be a problem to begin with. I don't know much about how their system works, but I would assume you can't just go to google.com and type in proxies and get a list.
- jicon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Watching Seattle news tonight, there is a guy in Seattle doing the exact same thing with a program he is writing.
Additionally, pressure is being placed on companies like Microsoft (Which blocks content off involving words like "Freedom" and "Democracy" from its own Chinese MSN site) so it will someday be illegal to perform such an activity... hence placing pressure on China to bring down the firewall.
Of course, with all the political pressure to have google turn over records to the US government, maybe they should look up the word 'irony'. - fo0L, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Gud read
- etruscan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"we do, and should encourage the free exchange of information and ideas."
At what cost? - gODfall, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Wo0t Canada all the way..
- dwhitbeck, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I don't hate anyone except dictators.
- lonelycanuck, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0w00t.
- scooter17, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0That's quite interesting. Good luck to them with the program, I hope it works well.
- burkay, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Since Canada may inofficially be called Chinada, it is not surprising to see that the Canadians are working hard for their cousins.
- wanglaoban, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0phytonix, very good comment!!
- xtremesniper, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0No surprise here, there's so many chinese in Canada I'd actually be worried if something like this didn't happen. lol
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0what was wrong with TOR? exactly how is this program/method better for the task than the many MANY available already?
- phytonix, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0@towca
Not really. The funny thing is there is no much TRUTH in US and many European media when they are reporting China.
AFAIK, Chinese official media is reporting bird flu almost every day. Chinese people get very quite immediate information about when and where there is a outbreak. And they know how many people have died because of infection. The problem is, even if many people know this, they just don't care. Some people still buy chicken. They are just...not afraid! Even some one died several hundred miles away because of H5N1. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0@Catullus,
Megaproxy's not the only one out there. There's TONS of people hosting anonymous proxy servers that aren't web-based like Megaproxy. I was just using that as an example to those who may not be familiar with proxies. You can find IP addresses of anonymous proxies by searching through IRC channels for instance. - raincontreras, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Tor works.
- chozsun, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1With Canadians onboard, you would think Russia would lend a hand.
Anyways, go Canada! - CadMasterAdam, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0yah that 'great firewall of china' is gonna be on the news now i bet
- zetsurin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Good luck in removing that wall of retardia.
- Eexperts, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"The digital signature of the plug-in would have to change constantly to avoid blocking.
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Many companies have failed to realize that. - Chompy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Good luck to them, I hope it spreads like wildfire.
- noamsml, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"If this software is to help people in China to break law, I think those Canadians are making a mistake.
For example, porn is illegal in China. Although most porn sites are not banned in China, some are. I don't see the good of this software trying to help people see porn?
And it is very natural for people to follow one country's law. And that's why Google censor its contents. Although they filtered some sensitive political contents, they also filter porn."
That's one too many evening working at the Ministry of Truth, I suppose. Anyway, doubleplusgood newspeak. - justjosh, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"Other then the select few protesters, the chinese themselves don't really care about the filter."
A 'few' in China could easily equate to the population of a lot of countries. - revvolutions, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0heh. i find it interesting how two countries sitting next to each other, can be in such different places, underneath it all.
on the front page of digg weve got a lawsuit against at&t due to a servere invasion of privacy by the nsa. and a story about canadians trying to protect the right to free speech. - steal_apps01, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1We didn't vote for Haper because we liked him. We got em in because the Liberal's screwed us over.
F in the A.
Again hate mail to: x.brendan@gmail.com - kidlinux, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"Snoop on to them as they snoop-on-to-us."
- dwhitbeck, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1China may get pissed off. So what, they need Canada as well as the U.S. for markets. Up with freedom!
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Leave it to Canada to spread freedom!
- wanglaoban, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Phytonix, Very good writing!
- h0dg3s, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0
How is the program supposed to be different than any other proxy server? - jicon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Link to American already working on this:
http://www.kirotv.com/technology/7131351/detail.html
Note that there are many people throughout the world attempting to free the Chinese restrictions. This isn't a Canadian only initiative.
//Canadian living in Victoria. - miclill, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Something like tor i suppose. But still the more programs of that kind there are the better. I like it!!!!!
- dravidian, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0They're just going to increase the number of people getting arrested in China.
When they securely receive the info, and try to disseminate the it to other Chinese, they'll evenutually get busted. And if they don't disseminate it there's not much point is there? - agentspizz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Wow Canada is doing something? What if China attacks them? It's about time that someone showed the Chinese civillins that there is more to the internet then www.china.com.
- SoccerBoy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Gotta love the Canadians!!!
- phytonix, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/china.htm
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2006-02/16/content_4189956.htm
They are reporting. And information is more free than most of you think. -
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