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- enthreeoh, on 05/24/2009, -14/+366Considering I build my own PCs...Yes I can be sure they're malware-free.
- stutimandal, on 05/25/2009, -5/+304Most new branded PCs come with the malware called Norton Antivirus or McAfee virus scan. Sometimes, the branded PC is gracious enough to provide more malwares like Symantec Firewall.
- LocalDocal, on 05/25/2009, -1/+168"When you unbox a brand new computer, you presume that it's lean, clean and pristine, right?"
No, I expect it to be filled with various software that the manufacturer preinstalled. Anyone who has ever bought a prebuilt PC and didn't expect plenty of preinstalled software is....well, to be honest, I don't know what they're thinking. - Wargasmic, on 05/25/2009, -2/+150One of the main reasons to build your own PC is to have that nice new clean OS to start from. I hate that companies preload a ton of ***** before you buy it.
- inactive, on 05/25/2009, -7/+103Seriously, you build netbooks and laptops?
hats off impressed. - Diggbotness, on 05/25/2009, -12/+104You people make me want to write malicious mac viruses.
- VegasKill, on 05/25/2009, -5/+89Common sense is the best antivirus.
- Wargasmic, on 05/25/2009, -12/+77Not worth the effort, besides, they are already having to deal with having a Mac. That's bad enough.
- kodax, on 05/25/2009, -2/+66The worst virus I ever had on a PC was Norton Antivirus. It was an incredible drain on resources, tried to block networking and other perfectly good working programs from functioning..and worst of all, I could not fully uninstall it and ended up having to reformat. Actually, maybe the worst of it is that you may actually need to have this installed for fear of all the crap out there knowing its only going to stop some of it.
Not to single Norton out as I am sure others are just as bad. I hope Windows 7 turns out to be a revelation but i dont see how they can fix this. Antivirus is just going to get more invasive and more resource draining. Whats the point of a hobbyist running that new multicore system when DRM and bloatware slows it down so much. - headortails, on 05/25/2009, -1/+63The first thing I would do with a new system is to reformat it.
- shininia, on 05/25/2009, -0/+59Just torrent it.
- hootenanny1, on 05/25/2009, -1/+47The reason I build my own PCs is mostly for the warranty part. Let's assume the graphic card goes up in smoke. Ok, so i can take it out, put a temporary one in, bring it to the store they either give me a new one immediately or repair it over the next weeks. With an ordinary store bought computer I'd lose the warranty buy even opening the comp...
.. oh yes, and the clean OS is pretty nice, too. - dlan4327, on 05/25/2009, -3/+46Please, my friend, you're making the rest of us mac user look like *****.
Seriously we're not all arrogant, smug & condescending. I use both Mac & PC's.
They're both great. - Smegzor, on 05/24/2009, -7/+48I build my PC's from parts and format the drives. I can't stand store bought computers. Where is the fun in having everything done for you? Also I cheat by installing Linux.
- phreak22, on 05/25/2009, -8/+47Short answer, NO! Unless you build it yourself or you buy a Mac... first thing I do for any friend who's bought a new Dell/Acer/Tosh/etc.etc.etc. is wipe the ***** clean and install Windows without any bundled crap.
- t4m5t3r, on 05/25/2009, -4/+42nah the reason i build my own PC is because of price. for example my current PC cost around £1500 to build (over the course of a few months) an equivalent system from Dell would be well over £3000 (i priced it!)
and I use better parts than dell! (all OEM's use ***** "low margin" parts. you buy a dell , hp or whatever with an GTX280, its not the same GTX280 youd get from a store. even if its the same brand!) - mattmaryanski, on 05/24/2009, -1/+39no
- xptoast, on 05/25/2009, -0/+37Where can I buy this common sense you speak of?
- t4m5t3r, on 05/25/2009, -3/+39"Most new branded PCs come with the malware called Norton Antivirus or McAfee virus scan."
just when you think the worlds gone mad, you see a little gem of a statement like that!! Amen brother!! - Snoosy, on 05/25/2009, -1/+30If the first comment fails, why not post the same thing again 10 minutes later and hope for the best?
- Charlie1er, on 05/25/2009, -0/+28I stoped at "first things researchers at Kaspersky Labs found" and than jumped directly to conclusion : "If you want to be sure you're safe, buy our product".
- waydee, on 05/25/2009, -3/+29You realise that's not normal, don't you? it's not a case of learning to live with it, you get malware because of your own actions. If stuff is coming back after you attempt to remove it it's likely your removal tools aren't doing the job. I'd suggest a clean install of windows and paying more attention to what you're doing online.
- WiFi, on 05/25/2009, -1/+26Awesome story man.
- themisanthrope, on 05/24/2009, -3/+27Put your money where your mouth is:
http://wubi-installer.org/
You can try it out without the brown pants of repartitioning, uninstall like it never happened should you decide the Redmond Beast is more your cup of tea after all. (But should you decide to keep it, a real install + dual-boot is the better way to go.) - Warom, on 05/25/2009, -1/+23Are you sure they were viruses, because that is pretty unlikely, it is far more likely that it is spyware,malware or a trojan.
- jaxontyler, on 05/25/2009, -5/+27First thing I did when I got my netbook, strip the OS and install Debian.
- mr5150, on 05/25/2009, -2/+23is this the same Kaspersky Labs who got caught with their pants down when thousands of customers CC details were poached from their servers?
Fail! - diggcommentguy, on 05/25/2009, -0/+19@snoosy It looks like it worked.
- deff, on 05/25/2009, -0/+19OCZ makes barebones netbook and notebook kits... So yeah, you can build your own now.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Sub ... - Sheethappens, on 05/25/2009, -3/+21What a load of ***** the author of that article was. They find malware on ONE infected machine made at ONE custom builder so it is a warning not to buy off custom builders? How about the fact that as a custom builder, I can be SURE there are quality parts in what I build and that all the old data from the old machine can be transferred by me and that if the machine needs fixing, no matter what is wrong, under warranty or out of warranty, I can get it back in 24 hours most times? Surely because I am ONE custom builder going by the way the guy in that article judges, then this must mean that ALL custom builders are better than brand name builders.
The guy's a prick. - FlyingCaveman, on 05/25/2009, -3/+20I just downloaded AntiVirus 2009 and went to finallyfast.com
Fixed it right up.
..just kidding. Don't try this at home. - Frixionburne, on 05/25/2009, -2/+18As if its even close to comparable at a part to part level. It is much easier to assemble a home PC than it is to rebuild a 16 valve head.
A bad point, you have. - FlareHeart, on 05/25/2009, -1/+16Your problem is that you took it to the Geek Squad. I wouldn't trust them with my digital watch much less a full computer.
- sewje, on 05/25/2009, -11/+24Ask for Linux pre-installed, problem solved. Next!
- ultrasparc, on 05/25/2009, -1/+14***** Norton Internet Security is the worst! As soon as a client gets a new PC it's the first thing I uninstall along with all of the BS toolbars. free.avg.com is where it's at!
- grawity, on 05/25/2009, -0/+13Windows _does_ come clean from its manufacturer (Microsoft).
(Internet Explorer isn't malware, it's just the welcome mat.) - inactive, on 05/25/2009, -0/+13I hate the fact that most manufactures put Norton anti virus free trails on their OS OEM.
- commentposted, on 05/25/2009, -1/+13Makes you wonder if they're the ones releasing the viruses in order to have people pay them to take the viruses away.
- HonoredMule, on 05/25/2009, -1/+13I got a netbook with Linux preinstalled.
It ended up still being worth my while to nuke it and do my own /proper/ install of a decent distro. - hootenanny1, on 05/25/2009, -1/+13Well, yeah, ok, Dell, HP, etc. is extremly expensive. But sometimes stores where I buy parts have some great offers for complete computers. It's mostly about the same price as all the parts or even cheaper but including a legal Windows license. That matters if you buy for companies, etc.
- InfernoX, on 05/25/2009, -2/+14"When you unbox a brand new computer..."
There's your problem right there. - lowtolerance, on 05/25/2009, -2/+13I don't know why you're being dugg down. Obviously, a windows virus can't infect a Mac, but it just shows that Apple is not infallible.
- diggymow, on 05/25/2009, -2/+13Actually they fixed that in Windows 7.
- waydee, on 05/25/2009, -2/+13I was replying to the comment made by drGt1987. See how comments work?
And no, the computers I use do not have any malware because I know how to avoid it. The only douche here is you, the idiot who missed the point entirely. - krishnac, on 05/25/2009, -1/+11Anyone else think this is just "research" done by a AV company that is trying to hawk its products?
Who the hell has heard of "Companion Touch netbook" or "M & A Technology". - inactive, on 05/25/2009, -1/+11I remember my old HP came with XP and it came with this feature activated that allowed the system to display pop up advertisements. Things like "BUY OUR PRODUCT AND WE'LL TURN THESE ADS OFF"
***** you, hewlett packard. Instead I'll use google to find out how to turn off your stupid system popups, then I'll never buy your stupid computer again. - Ikus13, on 05/25/2009, -0/+10Everything you look for can be found at TPB.
- doshindude, on 05/25/2009, -0/+9yeah, it's called command prompt.
format c: - ZimbuTheMonkey, on 05/25/2009, -0/+8Last time I checked, pre-assembled cars didn't come with a 30-day trial of McAfee antivirus.
- CLShortFuse, on 05/25/2009, -11/+19FTA:
"And in 2006, Apple shipped a handful of iPods that included a Windows virus." -
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